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Postby AWE » Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:09 am

Does anyone on the forum have info or memories of the Bellapais area before 1974?

I am doing some research out of personal interest - we were living there in 74 but I was rather young - and am interested in photos, newspaper articles or stories etc of the area.

Thanks in advance,
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Postby paliometoxo » Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:09 am

ice has in the past uploaded some pictures.. you can find doing search
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Postby rawk » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:50 pm

Have a read of "Bitter Lemons" by Lawrence Durrell.

This an account of life in Northern Cyprus before 1974 by a British diplomat who bought a house in Bellapais.

You should be able to obtain a copy on Amazon.com

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Postby Oracle » Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:04 pm

rawk wrote:Have a read of "Bitter Lemons" by Lawrence Durrell.

This an account of life in Northern Cyprus before 1974 by a British diplomat who bought a house in Bellapais.

You should be able to obtain a copy on Amazon.com

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I was going to recommend that ... then I remembered how stupidly biased it was ... the phucking spy-hippy! :D

Brits should stick to what they know best ..... :? :? :? ... whatever that might be! :?
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Postby Hatter » Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:40 pm

rawk wrote:Have a read of "Bitter Lemons" by Lawrence Durrell.

This an account of life in Northern Cyprus before 1974 by a British diplomat who bought a house in Bellapais.

You should be able to obtain a copy on Amazon.com

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After you have read the biassed (pun intended) "Bitter Lemons", you should read "Kleistes Portes" ("Closed Doors") - written by Kostas Montis as a reply to "Bitter Lemons".
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Postby rawk » Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:11 pm

Oracle wrote:
rawk wrote:Have a read of "Bitter Lemons" by Lawrence Durrell.

This an account of life in Northern Cyprus before 1974 by a British diplomat who bought a house in Bellapais.

You should be able to obtain a copy on Amazon.com

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I was going to recommend that ... then I remembered how stupidly biased it was ... the phucking spy-hippy! :D

Brits should stick to what they know best ..... :? :? :? ... whatever that might be! :?


Gawd, we're not in for another sanctimonious lecture on British colonialism and Cyprus again, are we?

Almost sounds like that TRNC saddo, Dutch Crusader, he doesn't go much on Brits either.

Lemons seem to be bitter down here in the south as well.

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Postby Oracle » Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:07 pm

rawk wrote:
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rawk wrote:Have a read of "Bitter Lemons" by Lawrence Durrell.

This an account of life in Northern Cyprus before 1974 by a British diplomat who bought a house in Bellapais.

You should be able to obtain a copy on Amazon.com

rawk


I was going to recommend that ... then I remembered how stupidly biased it was ... the phucking spy-hippy! :D

Brits should stick to what they know best ..... :? :? :? ... whatever that might be! :?


Gawd, we're not in for another sanctimonious lecture on British colonialism and Cyprus again, are we?

Almost sounds like that TRNC saddo, Dutch Crusader, he doesn't go much on Brits either.

Lemons seem to be bitter down here in the south as well.

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Lemons taste the same wherever you go, rawk ... or was that the driving force behind British Empire building? Find a Sweet Lemon to put a smile on Queen Victoria's chubby cheeks! :D
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Postby AWE » Fri May 01, 2009 4:01 am

have read bitter lemons many years ago - I am looking for information from the late 60s to 74, if any one has anything of the sort?
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Postby Oracle » Sat May 02, 2009 2:08 am

rawk wrote:Lemons seem to be bitter down here in the south as well.


Just for you rawk ... :D

Scent of victory among the lemon trees as displaced Cypriots win claim on ancestral land

Displaced Greek Cypriots celebrate landmark court ruling on property rights
Helena Smith in Nicosia
guardian.co.uk, Friday 1 May 2009 21.11 BST

Like so many Cypriots, Meletis Apostolides has long been haunted by memories of a lost past.

All his adult life he has yearned to return to his boyhood home – and this week, nearly 35 years after war left what should be an idlyllic corner of the Levant brutally divided, the European court of justice brought him one step closer to fulfilling that dream.

Even now, in late middle age, the architect can still recall the scent of the lemon trees, the smell of the sea, the dappled light that filtered through the citrus orchards of Lapithos, the village in Turkish-occupied northern Cyprus where he and his ancestors were born.

"It's never gone," he says, homing in, with Google Earth, on the property his family was forced to flee when Turkey, in the name of protecting its minority on the island, invaded in 1974.

The Apostolides family – like 170,000 other Greek Cypriots forcibly displaced at the time – always thought they'd be back. Instead, with only minutes to gather their possessions, and with the Turkish military entrenching its positions in response to a coup aimed at uniting the island with Greece, they found themselves turned into refugees, and robbed of their past overnight.

"The only thing my mother, Andriani, managed to take were her threads and embroideries," says Apostolides, 24 at the time. "We left photo albums, everything. People think that [my legal battle] has been all about money, when actually it is about roots, memory and culture. My family had lived in that part of the island since 1860."

In Cyprus' supercharged politics few issues excite more passion than that of properties lost during the conflict. In the war's wake peace talks aimed at resolving the west's longest-running diplomatic dispute have repeatedly collapsed on the matter of refugees' rights and land exchange. Enraged by the European court's decision to back Apostolides's claim to property – since bought by a retired British couple – Turkish Cypriot politicians have threatened to walk out of reunification talks.

"Cypriots are very attached to their land. In England you had an industrial revolution, here we did not," said Cyprus's former president George Vasiliou. "Until fairly recently people lived from their land so it meant a lot to them, and before the invasion northern Cyprus was almost exclusively Greek. Then there is memory. That plays a role too."

Like many on either side of the ethnic divide, Apostolides returned with his mother – and their title deeds – to see his home in 2003, the year that Turkish Cypriot authorities lifted restrictions on intercommunal travel. "It was the first, and only time, that my mother would see it after the war," he recalls.

But it was a previous visit – one by a Turkish Cypriot colleague who had once lived in the island's Greek-run south – that spurred the silver-haired architect into action. As an early proponent of interethnic contact in the 90s, Apostolides participated in an organised tour by Turkish Cypriot architects around the south. "One of them, who would go on to become a great friend, was desperate to revisit his family home in Limassol," he said. "When the Greek Cypriots living in the house opened the door, he produced a framed picture from his rucksack and said 'finally I have fulfilled my parents' wish to return home'. The Greek Cypriots immediately put it on the mantelpiece. At that moment I identified with him so much. It was such a powerful thing."

When Apostolides pressed charges against Linda and David Orams, the East Sussex couple who built their dream home on his land in 2002, he never envisaged the case would cause such a furore. "I decided to take legal action after a chance meeting with Mrs Orams on the plot in 2003," he says. "She was out watering the plants and when I asked her who she was, she said 'I am the owner of this villa'. I said 'I am the owner of the land' and she responded by saying 'well that was a long time ago'."

Five days after the European court pronounced that the UK judiciary should enforce the decision of a Nicosia court to return the property to its original owner, and demolish the villa to boot, the affair looks set to run and run – not least among the estimated 6,000 Britons who have also picked up properties at bargain prices in the territory that is only recognised by Ankara.

Yesterday despondent rosy-cheeked expats, living in the scenic villages above the picturesque port of Kyrenia, refused to comment, with one denouncing the case "as Greek Cypriot lies and bullshit".

But, says Vasiliou: "Greek Cypriots may feel justice has been rendered, that property is sacrosanct. However, serious people on this island also know that the best way to solve this issue is through speeding up negotiations and reaching a settlement, not taking individual cases to court."

Apostolides, the man of the moment, would agree. While his is a victory, he says, it springs from a lost past.
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Postby umit07 » Sat May 02, 2009 6:37 am

There are a few pics of Bellapais in this thread;

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 28&start=0
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