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have to crawl before you can run.

If you allow someone to cut your legs off you will never walk.

[boulio]

who is cutting legs off?It would have been a great bicommunal study if the two communites can work together and it would have provided trade for the north and Varosha to be returned to ROC,PLUS THE RECONSTRUCTION would have created thousands of jobs for both t/c and g/c.

[Viewpoint]

who is cutting legs off?It would have been a great bicommunal study if the two communites can work together and it would have provided trade for the north and Varosha to be returned to ROC,PLUS THE RECONSTRUCTION would have created thousands of jobs for both t/c and g/c.

Once the GCs got part of the port and Maraş do you think we would get a look in? How about giving us 50% of your ports?

[EPSILON]

Each one waiting for the other to make the first move, will not solve anything. To remove isolation would cost minimum if anything to the GCs. It will lead to Turkish Ports Sea and Air to open, which will lead to free beneficial trade between GCs and Turkey. Which I am certain would lead to a better resolution than the Annan plan in favour of the GCs. It needs somebody from the GC side to grasp the nettle as it were and the problem will be solved. So far no takers. First one to take it will be vilified to start with but in the long run, he will be a hero for all Cypriots

they offered the t/c and turkey the port of famagusta to be administered by the EU and a joint t/c,g/c "port administration"in return to open Varoshia and the turkish ports to end the economic isolation and you said no.I

Would that mean you have all the other ports as GC and 50% of ours??? Sounds real fair to me ..bloody hell they must think we are idiots.

This exactly what was the spirit of Annan plan and, i believe also the target of present negotitions:They want to keep (officially) what they have and to obtain also a good share of South.This exactly what we are discussing with them so many years.Great Greeks and G/.cs politicians .

Can Ertogan be appointed to protect G/cs in this mess?

[Viewpoint]

Each one waiting for the other to make the first move, will not solve anything. To remove isolation would cost minimum if anything to the GCs. It will lead to Turkish Ports Sea and Air to open, which will lead to free beneficial trade between GCs and Turkey. Which I am certain would lead to a better resolution than the Annan plan in favour of the GCs. It needs somebody from the GC side to grasp the nettle as it were and the problem will be solved. So far no takers. First one to take it will be vilified to start with but in the long run, he will be a hero for all Cypriots

they offered the t/c and turkey the port of famagusta to be administered by the EU and a joint t/c,g/c "port administration"in return to open Varoshia and the turkish ports to end the economic isolation and you said no.I

Would that mean you have all the other ports as GC and 50% of ours??? Sounds real fair to me ..bloody hell they must think we are idiots.

This exactly what was the spirit of Annan plan and, i believe also the target of present negotitions:They want to keep (officially) what they have and to obtain also a good share of South.This exactly what we are discussing with them so many years.Great Greeks and G/.cs politicians .

Can Ertogan be appointed to protect G/cs in this mess?

Episilon you have control of 63% of the island you have turned it into a GC state run by GCs and now you want 50% of the port run by TCs and the whole of Maraş, seems a little one sided to me. How about joint administration of all the ports and Maraş???

[boulio]

Once the GCs got part of the port and Maraş do you think we would get a look in? How about giving us 50% of your ports?

Absolutly because also part of the deal was for turkey to opens her ports as well.about 50% of"OUR" PORTS there yours as well.

[EPSILON]

Each one waiting for the other to make the first move, will not solve anything. To remove isolation would cost minimum if anything to the GCs. It will lead to Turkish Ports Sea and Air to open, which will lead to free beneficial trade between GCs and Turkey. Which I am certain would lead to a better resolution than the Annan plan in favour of the GCs. It needs somebody from the GC side to grasp the nettle as it were and the problem will be solved. So far no takers. First one to take it will be vilified to start with but in the long run, he will be a hero for all Cypriots

they offered the t/c and turkey the port of famagusta to be administered by the EU and a joint t/c,g/c "port administration"in return to open Varoshia and the turkish ports to end the economic isolation and you said no.I

Would that mean you have all the other ports as GC and 50% of ours??? Sounds real fair to me ..bloody hell they must think we are idiots.

This exactly what was the spirit of Annan plan and, i believe also the target of present negotitions:They want to keep (officially) what they have and to obtain also a good share of South.This exactly what we are discussing with them so many years.Great Greeks and G/.cs politicians .

Can Ertogan be appointed to protect G/cs in this mess?

Episilon you have control of 63% of the island you have turned it into a GC state run by GCs and now you want 50% of the port run by TCs and the whole of Maraş, seems a little one sided to me. How about joint administration of all the ports and Maraş???

We control what we control not by invasion / occupation but for the simple reason we are in the Island for ,at least, 2500years.

You entitled to control what a minority is entitled in line with the international law and EU policies for minorities. Anything over this is illegal and should not be accepted.Needeless to say that actually you are two times minority -once against the G/cs and a second againt the settlers B.(because you belong to settlers A of 1578)

[Viewpoint]

Once the GCs got part of the port and Maraş do you think we would get a look in? How about giving us 50% of your ports?

Absolutly because also part of the deal was for turkey to opens her ports as well.about 50% of"OUR" PORTS there yours as well.

So was the offer for GCs and TCs to administer all ports?

[Viewpoint]

Each one waiting for the other to make the first move, will not solve anything. To remove isolation would cost minimum if anything to the GCs. It will lead to Turkish Ports Sea and Air to open, which will lead to free beneficial trade between GCs and Turkey. Which I am certain would lead to a better resolution than the Annan plan in favour of the GCs. It needs somebody from the GC side to grasp the nettle as it were and the problem will be solved. So far no takers. First one to take it will be vilified to start with but in the long run, he will be a hero for all Cypriots

they offered the t/c and turkey the port of famagusta to be administered by the EU and a joint t/c,g/c "port administration"in return to open Varoshia and the turkish ports to end the economic isolation and you said no.I

Would that mean you have all the other ports as GC and 50% of ours??? Sounds real fair to me ..bloody hell they must think we are idiots.

This exactly what was the spirit of Annan plan and, i believe also the target of present negotitions:They want to keep (officially) what they have and to obtain also a good share of South.This exactly what we are discussing with them so many years.Great Greeks and G/.cs politicians .

Can Ertogan be appointed to protect G/cs in this mess?

Episilon you have control of 63% of the island you have turned it into a GC state run by GCs and now you want 50% of the port run by TCs and the whole of Maraş, seems a little one sided to me. How about joint administration of all the ports and Maraş???

We control what we control not by invasion / occupation but for the simple reason we are in the Island for ,at least, 2500years.

You entitled to control what a minority is entitled in line with the international law and EU policies for minorities. Anything over this is illegal and should not be accepted.Needeless to say that actually you are two times minority -once against the G/cs and a second againt the settlers B.(because you belong to settlers A of 1578)

Read your constitution, you have hijacked and used what is also ours, denying us our rights to utilize what is ours.

[EPSILON]

Each one waiting for the other to make the first move, will not solve anything. To remove isolation would cost minimum if anything to the GCs. It will lead to Turkish Ports Sea and Air to open, which will lead to free beneficial trade between GCs and Turkey. Which I am certain would lead to a better resolution than the Annan plan in favour of the GCs. It needs somebody from the GC side to grasp the nettle as it were and the problem will be solved. So far no takers. First one to take it will be vilified to start with but in the long run, he will be a hero for all Cypriots

they offered the t/c and turkey the port of famagusta to be administered by the EU and a joint t/c,g/c "port administration"in return to open Varoshia and the turkish ports to end the economic isolation and you said no.I

Would that mean you have all the other ports as GC and 50% of ours??? Sounds real fair to me ..bloody hell they must think we are idiots.

This exactly what was the spirit of Annan plan and, i believe also the target of present negotitions:They want to keep (officially) what they have and to obtain also a good share of South.This exactly what we are discussing with them so many years.Great Greeks and G/.cs politicians .

Can Ertogan be appointed to protect G/cs in this mess?

Episilon you have control of 63% of the island you have turned it into a GC state run by GCs and now you want 50% of the port run by TCs and the whole of Maraş, seems a little one sided to me. How about joint administration of all the ports and Maraş???

We control what we control not by invasion / occupation but for the simple reason we are in the Island for ,at least, 2500years.

You entitled to control what a minority is entitled in line with the international law and EU policies for minorities. Anything over this is illegal and should not be accepted.Needeless to say that actually you are two times minority -once against the G/cs and a second againt the settlers B.(because you belong to settlers A of 1578)

Read your constitution, you have hijacked and used what is also ours, denying us our rights to utilize what is ours.

Please do not use Cyprus consitution in a discussion with me. I consider it rediculus this constitution to be valid when it refers to T/cs rights but not valid when we refer to an invasion to the state representing this constitution.Of course is a matter of military power between the two sides but , at least, the G/cs leaders must stop to be rediculus behving like nothing happen in between. i.e. T/cs, being part of population represented by this consitution, cooperated and still cooperating with a foreign army against their own state!!!is any country in the world which would accept these civilians to continue to have rights?They do not pay taxes to the official state but they still have free medical care, they still issue passports, they still have all the rights (if they want) but at same time they are paying taxes to occupation forces / work for them and on behalf of them etc.

Can you imagine a Greek of Istanbul to be proved that he works in favor of Greek intelligence services? Then which constitution would protect him ?