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[bill cobbett]

(LETTER SENT TO ECONOMIST)

Dear sir

Perhaps The Economist's unnamed analyst was treated to a few too many rakis in Istantbul, which might explain their confusion in relation to the incredibly complex issue of Cyprus (A Hawkish problem, The Economist, April 23rd 2009). As a publication that prides itself on the quality of its news analysis I'm sure you'll welcome therefore this intervention to help set your analyst straight.

In regards to the Annan Plan – which you're still carping on about a full five years after the event – the overwhelming majority of the people of Cyprus exercised their democratic right to reject it. Why? Because suddenly, after decades of Turkish intransigence, a last-minute botch was presented aimed at exonerating an invading power for her crimes, just before Cyprus – having met all the accession criteria – joined the European Union. Over 75% of the electorate in the areas not under the control of Turkey's military said "No", an irrefutable indicator of the plan's relative merits as an equitable solution.

The plan was rejected because it sought to restrict the rights of Cypriots to have their property restored and to settle freely within their own homeland. It would have entrenched a repulsive system of apartheid on a tiny island and legitimised the presence of foreign occupation troops in perpetuity. No freedom-loving people in Europe, or the world, would have accepted such a settlement – except perhaps through desperation of a kind faced by Cypriots in the north under foreign military rule.

Not letting Cyprus into the European Union because more than a third of her territory remained occupied by a massive foreign army, in breach of dozens of UN Security Council resolutions, would have been unjust and against European principles.

Cyprus as a whole joined the European Union but with the acquis communautaire suspended in the north while the legitimate government of the island's entire territory is unable to exercise effective control. Lifting sanctions against and easing trade restrictions with this occupied territory has nothing to do with "rigidity" or not being "clever" but with respecting the wishes of a full member state. There is no trade with the northern part of Cyprus that cannot be undertaken through legitimate means and via legitimate ports of entry.

The government of Cyprus has made clear to its European partners the absurdity of proceeding with Turkey's accession while its military maintains upwards of 40,000 troops on European Union soil. And why shouldn't it? Cyprus has been held hostage by Turkey for more than 35 years, and the world has done nothing. Now that Cyprus is safely in the European Union, who can blame her for wanting to hold Turkey’s entry talks hostage until justice is done? She doesn’t have a massive army or powerful friends to take back what is rightly hers. Unlike Kuwait, the only oil she has is made from olives.

Perhaps the European Union has complicated matters for Turkey, by letting Cyprus join, but perhaps matters needed to be made complicated. And they certainly eased matters somewhat for a small island, at the mercy of an aggressive regional power for centuries.

Re KyproYero, aman se tho, tha se fileeso. Bravo re.

Re Pushdis, katsoshiragis.

Re Fredoulla, greema ee boutana bou se eshese re.

[Get Real!]

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[EPSILON]

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Why GR? They have you already in the list what you afraid of?

[Get Real!]

http://www.economist.com/world/europe/displaystory.cfm?story_id=13527550&mode=comment&intent=readBottom

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Forget it!

Why GR? They have you already in the list what you afraid of?

How come they've got me in the list already?

[EPSILON]

http://www.economist.com/world/europe/displaystory.cfm?story_id=13527550&mode=comment&intent=readBottom

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Forget it!

Why GR? They have you already in the list what you afraid of?

How come they've got me in the list already?

I thing "ETSELON" station or something like that is outside Dekhella area!!!

[The Cypriot]

(LETTER SENT TO ECONOMIST)

My letter must have rattled VP for the propaganda machine to roll into action so quickly. Shame about the sloppy typos though.

Dear sir

I wish to congratulate your esteemed publication

I've already told you VP, no one likes an arse-licker.

The Economist and there analysis of the divided island of Cyprus (A Hawkish problem, April 23rd 2009). It clearly identifys

Need to get your spelling right. Simple errors weaken your case.

the issues currently at hand and the devlopments leading to the impass.

second spelling mistake... you rushed it, VP. One more and it's in the editor's bin.

The Greek Cypriots

Notice I didn't use the term Greek Cypriot or Turkish Cypriot once. I just focused on the people – the human beings – of the island as a whole. Because that's what matters to the rest of the world. They don't give a stuff about what they consider to be our pathetic internal tribal problems.

have worked very hard over the past 5 years to demonize the Annan Plan

As I pointed out in my letter, the plan was rejected by 75% of free and legitimate citizens. No more demonising is necessary.

as it did not give them what they desired a Greek Cypriot state over not 63% but 100% of the island reducing Turkish Cypriots to what they believe is their rightful place, minority status.

You've got this habit of talking on behalf of others which gives you no credibility on this forum and certainly no credibility in a letter to an editor, esp. when you're talking about what you're clearly presenting as your enemy. How would you know what they believe? the editor will be asking.

Now that they have wormed their way into the EU using Greece

too late VP.... Cyprus may have wormed, Greece may have helped but she's in now and you're crying over spilt airanin. And that's the problem the original article was trying but unable to address.

they hope the solution they demand will just drop out of the sky on a plate c/o of the EU.

Again talking on behalf of the enemy. The editor is giving a deep sigh.

To this end they feelthat using their newly found toy leverage over Turkey will get them what they so long for.

Again talking on behalf of the enemy. The editor is giving a deeper sigh. What constructive point is this incoherent illiterate actually trying to make? he's asking.

They naively forget that Turkey is a major power in the region

The editor is now losing his will to live. How could little Cyprus forget that Turkey is a regional power when 40,000 of its troops are parked on their land?

as acknowledged by the USA

Oh, well that's a good argument to use in relation to EU matters. The editor is googling a local restaurant to book lunch.

and will not stand for 700.000 GCs blocking their way into the EU if that was their current goal,

Threats? Is this your way of ingratiating yourself to the Economist and putting forward an alternative credible case?

which at the moment it is clearly not, if we take into account Turkeys

Third typo - no apostrophe on Turkey's. End of the road VP. Letter is in the bin.

stance on the ports issue and lack of progress in closing EU aquis chapters this clearly indicates that EU accession is on a back burner therefore nulifying GC leverage.

If that's the case why are you congratulating an article that states the "EU complicated matters hugely by letting Cyprus join". The editor thinks you're wasting his time.

Sanctions are a stadistic way for Greek Cypriots to make us pay for their loss of land and control over the North of the island which we must never forget also belongs to Turkish Cypriots, they conveniently forget our losses until 2004 continued to tell the world only their side of the story, never once admitting their wrongs towards the Turkish Cypriots.

Only concerned with the human rights of one side, not of all the people of Cyprus. Tit-for-tat. The world isn't interested in tit-for-tat. The editor is on twitter updating his status. "Save me from the monotony of my job."

The whole situaiton

Spelling isn't your strong point, is it VP? Attention to detail is valued in a letter writer. Your letter is being picked up by the recycling people and being made into loo roll.

has now changed due to our acceptence of the Annan plan, a UN brokered Comprehensive Solution backed by the world including Greece.

But not by the only people that matter. The people who would have had to live with its consequences. The Cypriot people taken as a whole.

Countries are now waking up to the fact that their are 2 sides and that Greek Cypriots

Now you're talking on behalf of other countries. An editor worth his salt would want evidence to back up this unsubstantiated claim.

have been peddling a one sided version of the story to gain their ultimate goal of exluding Turkish Cypriots and controling the whole island.

An expert once more on what the enemy is trying to do. The editor is googling the name of a psychiatrist to recommend to you.

One again I and many Turkish Cypriots thank you for your balanced article

Yes. Because you're their arse-licking spokesperson. The editor has cracked open a bottle of Scotch to numb the pain of his existence.

and seeing the realities which this island faces at the hands of a hostile and revenge seeking Greek Cypriot "majority".

The editor is thinking, how come this guy is such an expert on what the "majority" is thinking. He's also thinking why has he put the word majority in speech marks. Actually he's no longer thinking. He's just quietly getting drunk.

VP stands for VERY POOR. Please try again.

[boulio]

Cypriot Bravo priceless

[Oracle]

The Cypriot .... once again proving the pen is mightier than the sword .... Well done! ... and stop helping VP you hopeless humanitarian!

[Viewpoint]

(LETTER SENT TO ECONOMIST)

My letter must have rattled VP for the propaganda machine to roll into action so quickly. Shame about the sloppy typos though.

Dear sir

I wish to congratulate your esteemed publication

I've already told you VP, no one likes an arse-licker.

The Economist and there analysis of the divided island of Cyprus (A Hawkish problem, April 23rd 2009). It clearly identifys

Need to get your spelling right. Simple errors weaken your case.

the issues currently at hand and the devlopments leading to the impass.

second spelling mistake... you rushed it, VP. One more and it's in the editor's bin.

The Greek Cypriots

Notice I didn't use the term Greek Cypriot or Turkish Cypriot once. I just focused on the people – the human beings – of the island as a whole. Because that's what matters to the rest of the world. They don't give a stuff about what they consider to be our pathetic internal tribal problems.

have worked very hard over the past 5 years to demonize the Annan Plan

As I pointed out in my letter, the plan was rejected by 75% of free and legitimate citizens. No more demonising is necessary.

as it did not give them what they desired a Greek Cypriot state over not 63% but 100% of the island reducing Turkish Cypriots to what they believe is their rightful place, minority status.

You've got this habit of talking on behalf of others which gives you no credibility on this forum and certainly no credibility in a letter to an editor, esp. when you're talking about what you're clearly presenting as your enemy. How would you know what they believe? the editor will be asking.

Now that they have wormed their way into the EU using Greece

too late VP.... Cyprus may have wormed, Greece may have helped but she's in now and you're crying over spilt airanin. And that's the problem the original article was trying but unable to address.

they hope the solution they demand will just drop out of the sky on a plate c/o of the EU.

Again talking on behalf of the enemy. The editor is giving a deep sigh.

To this end they feelthat using their newly found toy leverage over Turkey will get them what they so long for.

Again talking on behalf of the enemy. The editor is giving a deeper sigh. What constructive point is this incoherent illiterate actually trying to make? he's asking.

They naively forget that Turkey is a major power in the region

The editor is now losing his will to live. How could little Cyprus forget that Turkey is a regional power when 40,000 of its troops are parked on their land?

as acknowledged by the USA

Oh, well that's a good argument to use in relation to EU matters. The editor is googling a local restaurant to book lunch.

and will not stand for 700.000 GCs blocking their way into the EU if that was their current goal,

Threats? Is this your way of ingratiating yourself to the Economist and putting forward an alternative credible case?

which at the moment it is clearly not, if we take into account Turkeys

Third typo - no apostrophe on Turkey's. End of the road VP. Letter is in the bin.

stance on the ports issue and lack of progress in closing EU aquis chapters this clearly indicates that EU accession is on a back burner therefore nulifying GC leverage.

If that's the case why are you congratulating an article that states the "EU complicated matters hugely by letting Cyprus join". The editor thinks you're wasting his time.

Sanctions are a stadistic way for Greek Cypriots to make us pay for their loss of land and control over the North of the island which we must never forget also belongs to Turkish Cypriots, they conveniently forget our losses until 2004 continued to tell the world only their side of the story, never once admitting their wrongs towards the Turkish Cypriots.

Only concerned with the human rights of one side, not of all the people of Cyprus. Tit-for-tat. The world isn't interested in tit-for-tat. The editor is on twitter updating his status. "Save me from the monotony of my job."

The whole situaiton

Spelling isn't your strong point, is it VP? Attention to detail is valued in a letter writer. Your letter is being picked up by the recycling people and being made into loo roll.

has now changed due to our acceptence of the Annan plan, a UN brokered Comprehensive Solution backed by the world including Greece.

But not by the only people that matter. The people who would have had to live with its consequences. The Cypriot people taken as a whole.

Countries are now waking up to the fact that their are 2 sides and that Greek Cypriots

Now you're talking on behalf of other countries. An editor worth his salt would want evidence to back up this unsubstantiated claim.

have been peddling a one sided version of the story to gain their ultimate goal of exluding Turkish Cypriots and controling the whole island.

An expert once more on what the enemy is trying to do. The editor is googling the name of a psychiatrist to recommend to you.

One again I and many Turkish Cypriots thank you for your balanced article

Yes. Because you're their arse-licking spokesperson. The editor has cracked open a bottle of Scotch to numb the pain of his existence.

and seeing the realities which this island faces at the hands of a hostile and revenge seeking Greek Cypriot "majority".

The editor is thinking, how come this guy is such an expert on what the "majority" is thinking. He's also thinking why has he put the word majority in speech marks. Actually he's no longer thinking. He's just quietly getting drunk.

VP stands for VERY POOR. Please try again.

Pity you spent so much wasted time on the spelling mistakes which were corrected by my secretary and also mind boggingly thinking you were the editor, rather than addressing the contents. The GCs are the opposing side so expressing this is not incorrect, we TCs have to continue to put our viewpoints accross, of course you will try to ridicule us becuase you have no real arguements to counter the realities and feel uncomfortable with having our side of the story being put forward.

[The Cypriot]

Pity you spent so much wasted time on the spelling mistakes which were corrected by my secretary

You have a secretary? May I congratulate the esteemed VP for having a secretary.

and also mind boggingly thinking you were the editor, rather than addressing the contents.

You don't think I addressed the contents? Ask your secretary whether she thinks I did. She'll put you right.

The GCs are the opposing side so expressing this is not incorrect, we TCs

Imardon girion!
We. We. We. We. We. Speak for yourself VP. Then, when you put your foot in it, only YOU have the

have to continue to put our

Our. Our. Our. Our. Our. Speak for yourself VP. Then, when you put your foot in it, only YOU have the

viewpoints accross, of course you will try to ridicule us

Us. Us. Us. Us. Us. Us. Speak for yourself VP. Then, when you put your foot in it, only YOU have the

becuase you have no real arguements to counter the realities and feel uncomfortable with having our side of the story being put forward.

I have only ever put the CYPRIOT side of the story. And that, VP, is the ONLY story the world is interested in.