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[offlimits2]

but it conflicts....science explains creationism were the quran doesn't...

so you have not answered my question...

did you watch the whole documentary?

of course Qur'an does talk about creationism..

[offlimits2]

No, offlimits2, I am asking what do You believe? Why do you not want to tell us? Is it that you don't really know or is it too embarassing, or what?

Man. do some effort... why do u want to be spoon feeded.. do some effort so that you will remmeber it..

do you realy think that i will feel embarrased telling you or quoting you from Quran..
no matter how bad you think or say about Islam.

Do try and focus, offlimits2: I am asking what YOU believe is "heaven", the "reward for your efforts". I guess we should assume that what you mean is that your concept of heaven is according to the Koran, so what is your understanding of the relevant writings therein?

BTW, how dare you imply that I "think or say" anything bad about Islam? Where in my postings do you see such a thing? I expect an apology from you immediately, for attributing to me such things.

you are right.. my appologies..
it was mis understanding



cheer up now

[Hatter]

No, offlimits2, I am asking what do You believe? Why do you not want to tell us? Is it that you don't really know or is it too embarassing, or what?

Man. do some effort... why do u want to be spoon feeded.. do some effort so that you will remmeber it..

do you realy think that i will feel embarrased telling you or quoting you from Quran..
no matter how bad you think or say about Islam.

Do try and focus, offlimits2: I am asking what YOU believe is "heaven", the "reward for your efforts". I guess we should assume that what you mean is that your concept of heaven is according to the Koran, so what is your understanding of the relevant writings therein?

BTW, how dare you imply that I "think or say" anything bad about Islam? Where in my postings do you see such a thing? I expect an apology from you immediately, for attributing to me such things.

Any chance of a response to the above, offlimits2?

[offlimits2]

No, offlimits2, I am asking what do You believe? Why do you not want to tell us? Is it that you don't really know or is it too embarassing, or what?

Man. do some effort... why do u want to be spoon feeded.. do some effort so that you will remmeber it..

do you realy think that i will feel embarrased telling you or quoting you from Quran..
no matter how bad you think or say about Islam.

Do try and focus, offlimits2: I am asking what YOU believe is "heaven", the "reward for your efforts". I guess we should assume that what you mean is that your concept of heaven is according to the Koran, so what is your understanding of the relevant writings therein?

BTW, how dare you imply that I "think or say" anything bad about Islam? Where in my postings do you see such a thing? I expect an apology from you immediately, for attributing to me such things.

Any chance of a response to the above, offlimits2?

no.. this time.. you will have to do the effort.. i offer my help ... if needed.
tell you if you have access to Quran. if not .. let me know.

[Hatter]

No, offlimits2, I am asking what do You believe? Why do you not want to tell us? Is it that you don't really know or is it too embarassing, or what?

Man. do some effort... why do u want to be spoon feeded.. do some effort so that you will remmeber it..

do you realy think that i will feel embarrased telling you or quoting you from Quran..
no matter how bad you think or say about Islam.

Do try and focus, offlimits2: I am asking what YOU believe is "heaven", the "reward for your efforts". I guess we should assume that what you mean is that your concept of heaven is according to the Koran, so what is your understanding of the relevant writings therein?

BTW, how dare you imply that I "think or say" anything bad about Islam? Where in my postings do you see such a thing? I expect an apology from you immediately, for attributing to me such things.

you are right.. my appologies..
it was mis understanding



cheer up now

Apology accepted (in spite of the wrong choice of emoticon). Now, how about a response to my question: I am asking what YOU believe is "heaven", the "reward for your efforts"?. Should we assume that what you mean is that your concept of heaven is according to the Koran, in which case what is your understanding of the relevant writings therein?

[offlimits2]

some one asked on this post..
if there were any muslim scientist.. if Islam supports science education..

these are the liste of early scholars when west was living in dark..


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avicenna

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Muslim_scientists


check out the years and time period .

[denizaksulu]

Good morning Deniz, good to see you posing sme interesting questions on this one ...... but he/she is HAVE too :):):):):) doubt it if you get far on this one it always gets messy ...... worse than a sheila after a few drinks lol

Hi Humanist, nice to hear from you. I hate discussing reigion as it is such a personal thing. I dont know how I got dragged into this 'debate' (and I am no debater). It wont get messy on my account

I just cant stand 'missionary's.

G'day to you.

[denizaksulu]

Believing means , if you deny completly that God didn't send Old testement (torah) New testemant (Bible)... then you are not muslim.

muslims must believe that Those books were Inspiration of God.


now, it is very obvious that books got corrupted by people for their personal benefits. for eg Power.. etc

In Islam.. You dont' need to follow any moula, imam or priest..

you have to follow Quran and how Mohammad Peace be upon him explained Quran..

not like christians...... you give money to Priest to pray for you.. imagining Priest is near to God.

You say, 'you have to follow Quran and how Mohammad Peace be upon him explained Quran..

How can Mohammed explain the Koran, if the Koran was put to paper after his death?

Can you explain please?

1- it was writein on skins ..
2- it was memorized by thousands of his companions at that time..
and it is still memorized like it was at that time. but not numbers are in millions.
3- Quran it self is a mircale.. Quran challenges whole man kind. asking them to generate similar to it 10 verses.

and yet 1400 years past no one could come with such prefection...

beside the fact,,, before Quran.. humanity was treating women like sexual object .. again today women is being used as sexual object..
no advertsment, no sale is done with out women being exposed ..

women was being blamed 1400 years bfore for giving birth to a girl. men use to hate women. and yet today in cyprus and other countries also poeple blame wives for giving birth to female

Quran 1400 years before told us.. gender of child depends on Man, not female. this is just one example

Quran is mathimetical miracle also,.. ifu want to learn.. i can tell.. but are u willing to learn ????


there no errors at all...


listen. even for the sake of argument if i agree that i was written on paper afterwards..

why don't u find me one error..

i m asking SINGLE .. errror..

can u?

Are you one of the murids of Sheikh Nazim? Seems you know so much of Cypriot ladies. Before you worry yourself about our women, perhaps you should look to Saudi Arabia and Afganistan to begin with. The women there surely need you help more.

[denizaksulu]

Can some one tell me why members are discussing the fact that a third rate singer born in London of mixed parentage converted to Islam 22 years ago.

It wasnt news then and it isn't news now

FFS thousand of people must convert to another religion everyday

Who is discussing Cat Stevens? The last mention was on the first page

[bill cobbett]

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