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Postby denizaksulu » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:05 pm

offlimits2 wrote:My Opinion:

our friend "denizaksulu" had problem with say Bismillah before everything or before eating food. and he questioned if God is realy mercifull.
he got tired of it and he doesn't believe in it.. (thats what i concluded from conversations) so, at the end what happened.. .... he stoped doing it and he became against..

now Iran is the similar example. when you force a nation or child to do something and you don't educate them about it.. End is disastarous. beside the fact, that western media is waiting for such events to occour so that they can ignite hatred ...

also, iranians , as soon as they come out of country they become athiest... becausethey are tired.

but on the contrary........ If they are educated , about Creator, God, his wisdom.. tolrenace for other religions , and so and so forth..
you don't need to prohibit alcohol , because when you know God's word and when you know that you have to face God Almighty after death. then sharia or no sharia law is already in ur heart..

and don't forget,........... that good and bad exist adn will exist..... Guidance is from God not from me or you speaking about God.

Gudance is for who seeks truth.. and at the end of the day, we will be rewarded for our efforts not for our successes.

so, do your job, to let people know about God, one who wants to burn in fire.. leave it to be his choice..

and yes. Muslims job is to deliever the message.. same message which started from Abraham.. Worship One God. , same by Moses same by Jesus same by Mohammad (peace be upon all of them)



You put words into my mouth again. I have never stopped the Bismillah, but I question it. I see so much evil out there. I see so many innocents die!!. I question everything.
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Postby offlimits2 » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:09 pm

boomerang wrote:
offlimits2 wrote:Of course i believe in Science..


tel me something ........................

when Religion and scinece Contradict each other.. which one would you believe

science
or
Religion


Science...

But my question to you is if you believe in science, as you used it in your youtube video, to explain your theories at what point do you reject science in favour of religion?...is there a fine line?




thanks for answering my question

my answer is also science

Science so far never conflicted with Quran. Qur'an is always giving new clues to science.

:wink:


but please watch all 8 parts so that we can close one issue.

I m always "in favor of science"
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Postby Hatter » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:12 pm

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No, offlimits2, I am asking what do You believe? Why do you not want to tell us? Is it that you don't really know or is it too embarassing, or what?



Man. do some effort... why do u want to be spoon feeded.. do some effort so that you will remmeber it..

do you realy think that i will feel embarrased telling you or quoting you from Quran..
no matter how bad you think or say about Islam.



Do try and focus, offlimits2: I am asking what YOU believe is "heaven", the "reward for your efforts". I guess we should assume that what you mean is that your concept of heaven is according to the Koran, so what is your understanding of the relevant writings therein?

BTW, how dare you imply that I "think or say" anything bad about Islam? Where in my postings do you see such a thing? I expect an apology from you immediately, for attributing to me such things.
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Postby boomerang » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:12 pm

offlimits2 wrote:
boomerang wrote:
offlimits2 wrote:Of course i believe in Science..


tel me something ........................

when Religion and scinece Contradict each other.. which one would you believe

science
or
Religion


Science...

But my question to you is if you believe in science, as you used it in your youtube video, to explain your theories at what point do you reject science in favour of religion?...is there a fine line?




thanks for answering my question

my answer is also science

Science so far never conflicted with Quran. Qur'an is always giving new clues to science.

:wink:


but please watch all 8 parts so that we can close one issue.

I m always "in favor of science"


and if it conflicts?...
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Postby Oracle » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:15 pm

offlimits2 wrote:Science so far never conflicted with Quran. Qur'an is always giving new clues to science.


You have conveniently ignored all other posts ridiculing your assertions. Any chance you can provide any evidence for this boast?
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Postby offlimits2 » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:18 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
offlimits2 wrote:My Opinion:

our friend "denizaksulu" had problem with say Bismillah before everything or before eating food. and he questioned if God is realy mercifull.
he got tired of it and he doesn't believe in it.. (thats what i concluded from conversations) so, at the end what happened.. .... he stoped doing it and he became against..

now Iran is the similar example. when you force a nation or child to do something and you don't educate them about it.. End is disastarous. beside the fact, that western media is waiting for such events to occour so that they can ignite hatred ...

also, iranians , as soon as they come out of country they become athiest... becausethey are tired.

but on the contrary........ If they are educated , about Creator, God, his wisdom.. tolrenace for other religions , and so and so forth..
you don't need to prohibit alcohol , because when you know God's word and when you know that you have to face God Almighty after death. then sharia or no sharia law is already in ur heart..

and don't forget,........... that good and bad exist adn will exist..... Guidance is from God not from me or you speaking about God.

Gudance is for who seeks truth.. and at the end of the day, we will be rewarded for our efforts not for our successes.

so, do your job, to let people know about God, one who wants to burn in fire.. leave it to be his choice..

and yes. Muslims job is to deliever the message.. same message which started from Abraham.. Worship One God. , same by Moses same by Jesus same by Mohammad (peace be upon all of them)



You put words into my mouth again. I have never stopped the Bismillah, but I question it. I see so much evil out there. I see so many innocents die!!. I question everything.



what have you prepared for your own question/answer day.
the day no body can avoid. they day you will be judged for your own deeds..

poeple dieing is part of bigger poower issue.... they don't believe in God. they believe money is God.
you will not be entered into their grave nor will they enter into your grave..

death will come to all... what u have to do is , your neighbour should not be hungry.. don't worry about 10000 miles away from you..

stop trying to be "Mr. saving the world" ..... save your own soul first..

please. be an example for others. be example for your brother/sister. be example for your kids, family..

help your neighboor whatever color, race or religion they are..

Prophet Mohammad use to pass from a street and one jew woman use to through garbage on him..
one day he passed and she wasn't their.. .. she was ill and he went to see her..

Allah has done some promises in Quran to mankind. obey God .. !! and you will be happiest person on earth..

do you kknow what is the 1st Question after your death?
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Postby offlimits2 » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:22 pm

boomerang wrote:
offlimits2 wrote:
boomerang wrote:
offlimits2 wrote:Of course i believe in Science..


tel me something ........................

when Religion and scinece Contradict each other.. which one would you believe

science
or
Religion


Science...

But my question to you is if you believe in science, as you used it in your youtube video, to explain your theories at what point do you reject science in favour of religion?...is there a fine line?




thanks for answering my question

my answer is also science

Science so far never conflicted with Quran. Qur'an is always giving new clues to science.

:wink:


but please watch all 8 parts so that we can close one issue.

I m always "in favor of science"


and if it conflicts?...



that day will never come.............. read Quran. i bet my life on it.
:D
coz i have not doubt on word of God.
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Postby boomerang » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:22 pm

do you kknow what is the 1st Question after your death?



This question has me baffled...can you please elaborate on this one?
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Postby boomerang » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:24 pm

offlimits2 wrote:
boomerang wrote:
offlimits2 wrote:
boomerang wrote:
offlimits2 wrote:Of course i believe in Science..


tel me something ........................

when Religion and scinece Contradict each other.. which one would you believe

science
or
Religion


Science...

But my question to you is if you believe in science, as you used it in your youtube video, to explain your theories at what point do you reject science in favour of religion?...is there a fine line?




thanks for answering my question

my answer is also science

Science so far never conflicted with Quran. Qur'an is always giving new clues to science.

:wink:


but please watch all 8 parts so that we can close one issue.

I m always "in favor of science"


and if it conflicts?...



that day will never come.............. read Quran. i bet my life on it.
:D
coz i have not doubt on word of God.


but it conflicts....science explains creationism were the quran doesn't...

so you have not answered my question...
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Postby offlimits2 » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:27 pm

boomerang wrote:
do you kknow what is the 1st Question after your death?



This question has me baffled...can you please elaborate on this one?



according to Muslim beliefs........... you don't have to agree on it..
but

you will be asked after death.
"who is your God"

and answer will be according to the way of life you have lived . you can't make up answer . erase and wirte again , or delete and retype.

your acctions in this world, your deeds in this world will reflect.

your mouth will be closed and your limbs will speak of what you have done...

that is why .. all prophets came .... to warn all the nations before us and even today with Qur'an being last testement amoung us telling us.. Worship one God and obey him.
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