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Postby boomerang » Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:40 pm

offlimits2 wrote:
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denizaksulu wrote:Unfortunately I have been brainwashed into repeating the Besmele before everuthing I do, but I no longer believe any of this.


There is hope for offlimits2 too, then! :D



He is on a mission. Hopelessness. Had I the time , I would give him the same lecture 'I give 'Jehovah's Witnesses'. No one will 'salvage' me except myself.



God Almighty says in Quran:

Qur'an 3:64-71 Surah Ale-'Imran (The Family of 'Imran)
Say: "O people of the Book! come to common terms as between us and you: that we worship none but Allah; that we associate no partners with Him; that we erect not from among ourselves Lords and patrons other than Allah."

.. i m not here on mission.. :)


i will appreciate your lectures but terms will be that i will read ur lecture but when i send sometihng.. you should read and analyse also..

it should not be one side...
i welcome you.. but i want you to fullfil the terms

:D
what do you say..


offlimits2 do you believe in evolution?




you mean darwanism???

.... of course not...

do you?


we are all aliens to this planet...unless of course you think we all descendants from adam and Eve...

One look at just our solar system creation is enough to tell you the planet during it's creation was burning unsunstainable of any life...then the water came in the form of raining ice blocks...these large ice chunks were the vehicles of the life forms of today...

Darwain explains evolution but not creation...ie the link between birds and dinosaurs is a prime example of evolution...

Religion falls short when it comes to science...it has no answers what so ever...

Today the closest we came to explaining the universe is through the big bang....but tomorrow maybe the big bang will be explained...

Looking at the universe you get to marvel at events that happened milions of years ago...history in the making...
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Postby Hatter » Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:40 pm

offlimits2 wrote:
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offlimits2 wrote:Gudance is for who seeks truth.. and at the end of the day, we will be rewarded for our efforts not for our successes.


What do you believe is the reward "for our efforts", offlimits2?


Reward for believing in one God.. obeying him. worshiping nothing but him. asking help from no one but him is heaven..

i know, you might not believe in heaven coz haven't seen it , right?
neither did i. .....


And what, exactly, is heaven, according to your beliefs, offlimits2 ?




you will have to find out from Quran. would you like to read it yourself.?
and which translation language do you prefer?


No, offlimits2, I am asking what do You believe? Why do you not want to tell us? Is it that you don't really know or is it too embarassing, or what?
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Postby offlimits2 » Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:47 pm

boomerang wrote:
offlimits2 wrote:
boomerang wrote:
offlimits2 wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:Unfortunately I have been brainwashed into repeating the Besmele before everuthing I do, but I no longer believe any of this.


There is hope for offlimits2 too, then! :D



He is on a mission. Hopelessness. Had I the time , I would give him the same lecture 'I give 'Jehovah's Witnesses'. No one will 'salvage' me except myself.



God Almighty says in Quran:

Qur'an 3:64-71 Surah Ale-'Imran (The Family of 'Imran)
Say: "O people of the Book! come to common terms as between us and you: that we worship none but Allah; that we associate no partners with Him; that we erect not from among ourselves Lords and patrons other than Allah."

.. i m not here on mission.. :)


i will appreciate your lectures but terms will be that i will read ur lecture but when i send sometihng.. you should read and analyse also..

it should not be one side...
i welcome you.. but i want you to fullfil the terms

:D
what do you say..


offlimits2 do you believe in evolution?




you mean darwanism???

.... of course not...

do you?


we are all aliens to this planet...unless of course you think we all descendants from adam and Eve...

One look at just our solar system creation is enough to tell you the planet during it's creation was burning unsunstainable of any life...then the water came in the form of raining ice blocks...these large ice chunks were the vehicles of the life forms of today...

Darwain explains evolution but not creation...ie the link between birds and dinosaurs is a prime example of evolution...

Religion falls short when it comes to science...it has no answers what so ever...

Today the closest we came to explaining the universe is through the big bang....but tomorrow maybe the big bang will be explained...

Looking at the universe you get to marvel at events that happened milions of years ago...history in the making...



check it out.. please watch all 8 parts


find the rest in youtube..

if u can't find let me know

we can go into more details after you have watched this..
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Postby miltiades » Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:51 pm

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God makes it clear that nobody comes before or after him so “agents” and “middle men” are not necessary.

could you please explain.. .? you mean, we should ask directly God for anything and everything ?

Absolutely... "through Jesus" the Bible says who happens to be God. :wink:

and GR,, i just posted that link so that we can remove many mis-conceptions....

You mean, you posted a link so that we may accept someone's version of the story.



no one is asking you to accept someone's version of story.

Quran is not someone's word. Qur'an is word of God.. and i posted link .. how Quran told us the story of Mother Mary.. and how science identifies benefits from it.

Jesus (peace be upon him).. was realy son of God? how come?
coz Jesus had not father

then what about Adam. he had no father no mother?

Let me absolutely crude and tell you what a brain washed individual you are. Did they also teach in Madrasses that you will burn in hell if you question your book , because mate its just a book just the same as the bible , loaded with cruelty , tyrany , disguisting acts against human beings , writen or rather dictated by illetearte medieval stone age people . Mohamed was by all accounts an illeterate individual , a very cruel and bloodthirsty army man. How on earth can medeival people who reject the most precious part of our lives which is life it self be taken seriously by anyone unless you are brainwashed first.
What the hell does matter whether a woman walks in the street on her own orale cousin , what the hell does it matter whether her face and hair is not covered , what the hell does it matter if you eat a bacon sandwich !!!
Come on now , look around you at the trees , the birds , the oceans , look at the beauty of nature , the moon and the stars , were they created by some mythological being , did he then also create tsunamis , earthquakes , deceases , murderers and child molesters ?
Doesn't all this perfections and imperfections tell you something ? Your book and your God are false and so is every other religious book and god,. All NON EXISTENT all working against human nature all are cruel and hateful.
Here is an example. The Jews , very religious , the Arabs very religious , yet they PASSIONATELY HATE EACH OTHER AND COMMIT AGAINST EACH OTHER THE MOST HEINIOUS CRIMES !
God , my arse !
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Postby boomerang » Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:51 pm

Image

The above shows new worlds created as we speak...

do you think a simplistic approach as a religious book written by a man with voices in his head has a hand in all these new worlds?
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Postby boomerang » Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:55 pm

offlimits2 wrote:
boomerang wrote:
offlimits2 wrote:
boomerang wrote:
offlimits2 wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:Unfortunately I have been brainwashed into repeating the Besmele before everuthing I do, but I no longer believe any of this.


There is hope for offlimits2 too, then! :D



He is on a mission. Hopelessness. Had I the time , I would give him the same lecture 'I give 'Jehovah's Witnesses'. No one will 'salvage' me except myself.



God Almighty says in Quran:

Qur'an 3:64-71 Surah Ale-'Imran (The Family of 'Imran)
Say: "O people of the Book! come to common terms as between us and you: that we worship none but Allah; that we associate no partners with Him; that we erect not from among ourselves Lords and patrons other than Allah."

.. i m not here on mission.. :)


i will appreciate your lectures but terms will be that i will read ur lecture but when i send sometihng.. you should read and analyse also..

it should not be one side...
i welcome you.. but i want you to fullfil the terms

:D
what do you say..


offlimits2 do you believe in evolution?




you mean darwanism???

.... of course not...

do you?


we are all aliens to this planet...unless of course you think we all descendants from adam and Eve...

One look at just our solar system creation is enough to tell you the planet during it's creation was burning unsunstainable of any life...then the water came in the form of raining ice blocks...these large ice chunks were the vehicles of the life forms of today...

Darwain explains evolution but not creation...ie the link between birds and dinosaurs is a prime example of evolution...

Religion falls short when it comes to science...it has no answers what so ever...

Today the closest we came to explaining the universe is through the big bang....but tomorrow maybe the big bang will be explained...

Looking at the universe you get to marvel at events that happened milions of years ago...history in the making...



check it out.. please watch all 8 parts


find the rest in youtube..

if u can't find let me know

we can go into more details after you have watched this..


do you believe in science?
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Postby offlimits2 » Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:56 pm

No, offlimits2, I am asking what do You believe? Why do you not want to tell us? Is it that you don't really know or is it too embarassing, or what?



Man. do some effort... why do u want to be spoon feeded.. do some effort so that you will remmeber it..

do you realy think that i will feel embarrased telling you or quoting you from Quran..
no matter how bad you think or say about Islam.

Quran says:
9:32 Fain would they extinguish Allah's light with their mouths, but Allah will not allow but that His light should be perfected, even though the Unbelievers may detest (it).


Noor, or Light of Gods message will spread. it is God's promise

as God promised in Quran. that nobody can alter it... 1400 year passed. nobody could.. so there are some promises in Quran by God (Allah Almighty) you think supreme power can not fullfil his promises :D :D :D
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Postby offlimits2 » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:01 pm

Of course i believe in Science..


tel me something ........................

when Religion and scinece Contradict each other.. which one would you believe

science
or
Religion
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Postby boomerang » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:04 pm

offlimits2 wrote:Of course i believe in Science..


tel me something ........................

when Religion and scinece Contradict each other.. which one would you believe

science
or
Religion


Science...

But my question to you is if you believe in science, as you used it in your youtube video, to explain your theories at what point do you reject science in favour of religion?...is there a fine line?
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Postby offlimits2 » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:05 pm

Very interesting , specially for those who can understand Australian or British accent.

part 1



part 2
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