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[miltiades]

... Notable too is the action of the then Mayor of Nicosia ,
and AKEL member Y. Christodoulide who following the April 1st commencement of action against the British , he obliged to pay a visit to the Governors office and express outrage at the attacks by EOKA adding that AKEL was against violence .
AKEL continued to be against the struggle by active means as well as by its own propaganda that refered to KARAOLIS and DEMETRIOU as murderers and terrorists.

Yes AKEL objected ... Did they "sell us down the river"?

Let me also say that the Greek government of Papagos was strongly against the struggle worrying that it might damage Greece's relations with Britain ,

So Greece objected too?

so Greece did not sell us down the river once but on at least three occasions.

So why do you object to Greece's stance but not AKEL's?

Admit it, not all Greeks, AKEL or Mainlanders, would agree with all decisions at all times ... but that does not mean they ... "sell us down the river".

Stop being a hypocrite ....

AKEL was the Cypriot Communist Party taking its cue from the wretched Greek morons that formed the Communist party of Greece. Importantly AKEL was Cypriot , the Papapapagos government was foreign.
Here is some more info for you to digest:
Following the start of the struggle , ( what a shame that it was a struggle that called for ENOSIS ) on April 1st 1955 it caused a great deal of surprise to the Cypriot authorities , to the Cypriots in general and to the Greeks of Greece . None was more vociferously critical and uncomplimentary to the events than Radio Athens which for days lambasted the Cypriots offering not one encouraging word. AKEL issued on April the 1st the now notorious proclamation calling the acts as those of " TRAMBOUKKOUS , VARELOTTPUS PSEVDODIGENIDES "etc etc
The Greek government of the time wanted nothing what soever to do with Cyprus and its struggle , there is ample written material to conclusively prove the cowardly position of Papagos who simply was not interested in Cyprus in spite of General Kosmas's efforts to convince him that the struggle was not as he called it "prooro" Further more like Pontius he washed his hands of the Cyprus issue, so concerned he was that such an act would be detrimental to the interests of Greece and specifically to Greece's' relationship with the United Kingdom.

Rely on Greece to help us ??? Dont be so bloody naive !!

[insan]

Rely on Greece to help us ??? Dont be so bloody naive !!

Despite all, Grivas relied on some political groups of Greece and transported huge amounts of weapons and ammunition to Cyprus with support of those Greek political groups. What's the difference? One is official Greece, the other is unofficial Greece. In the end, Greece, officially or unofficially have always had interests in Cyprus. Be sure those 10 richest Greek businessmen who rule Greece have interests in Cyprus, too.

[miltiades]

Miltiades wrote:

By 1958 the number of Cypriot police had risen to 5475 of which G/Cs were 930, T/Cs 3832 British 657 , others 56.
Its clear here that the notorious British dogma of divide and rule was in full swing.

Why divide and rule, Miltiades? EOKA began struggling for Enosis in 1955. TCs were against Enosis, beside a Greek-GC ruled Cyprus. Right? Under such circumstances, what's wrong with Brits recruiting TCs as police auxilaries? What's wrong with TCs who accepted to join British Police force to struggle against EOKA? What's wrong with establishment of TMT as a counter organization to EOKA?

Had there been no armed struggle between 2 underground organizations(I wish it didn't happen) and no Enosis/Taksim demands; there would have been still a problem.

As I always stated the essential of the problem is power sharing in Cyprus. TCs want equal power sharing on legislative and judicial bodies because all Turks and TCs r aware of that Hellenes haven't forgotten and forgiven 1453, 1571, 1974.

Our common past kills every possibility for TCs voluntarily accepting minority status or with ur words "equal citizenship" in Cyprus.

Keep considering ur EOKA fighters how u wish but don't forget that the leader of both EOKAs was the same man; even most probably vast majority of EOKA-B members were EOKA members.

Anyway, I hope at least u r aware of that no TCs accept EOKA as liberation fighters of Cyprus but maybe Kikapu and his like minded TCs; I'm not sre.

Miltiades wrote:

The T/Cs are at the moment ruled and dictated to right now by a foreign country , I doubt whether they will remain oblivious to their graduial assimilation , or rather extinction by Turkey.Sooner or later they will rebel , take it from me its a matter of time before more and more voices are raised against the Turkish occupation.

This is ur and ur leadership only dream; a part of Akritas plan. Fabian Tactics: "Economically isolate them till they rebel against our enemies and help us free our country from Turks." Keep pursuing the same policy. Vast majority of TCs emigrated because of economic difficulties they faced in Northern Cyprus not because they were against Turkey and the so-called occupation army. Those TCs r angry with GC-Greek leadership and ur foreign backers.

If u reckon that ur foreign backers give support to ur cause and demands bcz of u r the rightful side; u r mistaken. They abuse one of ur weaknesses for their own interests. It is a fact that GC-Greek leadership like this mutual interests game. Do they care abt the GC refugees? No of course.

All Cypriots as far as I'm concerned are the majority. The minute that a Cypriot becomes a Turk and a Greek , Armenian or Latin then of course one has to look as to the numbers that make up those who call themselves Greek , Turkish , Armenian etc. It looks as if the G/Cs are then the overwhelming majority , the T/Cs a size able minority and the rest a tiny minority. If you believe that the T/Cs are Turks first and then Cypriots then they are by definition based on numerical realities a minority and the Armenians and other an even smaller minority.
If however you are a Cypriot as I'm first and foremost and believes that my motherland is Cyprus then you are most certainly in the majority.
To hell with majorities , we are all Cypriots .
As far as the Brits using the T/Cs to fight against the EOKA movement , what would you say if the GERMANS DURING WORLD WAR TWO , used the minorities in the various countries that they occupied to fight those that were engaged in their liberation struggle , in France for instance they could have used the small minority of Algerians or even Jews .

Milti,

TCs r TCs, GCs r GCs. We r all Cypriots not as a nation but as people born in Cyprus and having a unique to us Cypriot life style, tarditions and culture. Our Cypriotness stops there. The GC-Greek leadership and political interest groups of Greece and GCs have always collaborated and cooperated for their own common national interests and causes. Just a few days ago they reaffirmed this, during the visit of Karamanalis. The TC-Turkey leadership and political interest groups of TCs and Turkey have almsot same or similar relations. Why u pretending that u r not aware of these facts?

I'm VERY aware of these events and I'm saddened that we have not as yet become mature enough to stand on our own two feet and proudly declare our Independent Cypriotness . I understand that the 40 thousand Turkish occupying troops have something to do with our insecurities and I also understand that such events also cause the T/Cs to become more attached to the occupiers. I only wish I could encourage the Cypriot government to launch a programme designed to remove foreign influences surrounding our efforts to find a solution , there again I wish I could encourage Turkey to allow the T/Cs a voice that can be heard not as I beleive silenced by the settlers and the Turkish army.
Not long ago we learned of the T/C youths arrested for having the audacity ... to demand the removal of the occupying army from Cyprus .
Let me tell you something you can change historical names like the names of towns and villages but you can never change history , another thing I would like to remind Turkey off .

[Oracle]

... Importantly AKEL was Cypriot , the Papapapagos government was foreign.

This is why I suggested you stop being a hypocrite.

Miltiades... it is not enough to think you are in the "right" ... you have to know why you are in the "right"....

Either it is acceptable for a form of behaviour to be carried out .. by everyone ... Or it is not acceptable .... by anyone!

[insan]

Miltiades wrote:

By 1958 the number of Cypriot police had risen to 5475 of which G/Cs were 930, T/Cs 3832 British 657 , others 56.
Its clear here that the notorious British dogma of divide and rule was in full swing.

Why divide and rule, Miltiades? EOKA began struggling for Enosis in 1955. TCs were against Enosis, beside a Greek-GC ruled Cyprus. Right? Under such circumstances, what's wrong with Brits recruiting TCs as police auxilaries? What's wrong with TCs who accepted to join British Police force to struggle against EOKA? What's wrong with establishment of TMT as a counter organization to EOKA?

Had there been no armed struggle between 2 underground organizations(I wish it didn't happen) and no Enosis/Taksim demands; there would have been still a problem.

As I always stated the essential of the problem is power sharing in Cyprus. TCs want equal power sharing on legislative and judicial bodies because all Turks and TCs r aware of that Hellenes haven't forgotten and forgiven 1453, 1571, 1974.

Our common past kills every possibility for TCs voluntarily accepting minority status or with ur words "equal citizenship" in Cyprus.

Keep considering ur EOKA fighters how u wish but don't forget that the leader of both EOKAs was the same man; even most probably vast majority of EOKA-B members were EOKA members.

Anyway, I hope at least u r aware of that no TCs accept EOKA as liberation fighters of Cyprus but maybe Kikapu and his like minded TCs; I'm not sre.

Miltiades wrote:

The T/Cs are at the moment ruled and dictated to right now by a foreign country , I doubt whether they will remain oblivious to their graduial assimilation , or rather extinction by Turkey.Sooner or later they will rebel , take it from me its a matter of time before more and more voices are raised against the Turkish occupation.

This is ur and ur leadership only dream; a part of Akritas plan. Fabian Tactics: "Economically isolate them till they rebel against our enemies and help us free our country from Turks." Keep pursuing the same policy. Vast majority of TCs emigrated because of economic difficulties they faced in Northern Cyprus not because they were against Turkey and the so-called occupation army. Those TCs r angry with GC-Greek leadership and ur foreign backers.

If u reckon that ur foreign backers give support to ur cause and demands bcz of u r the rightful side; u r mistaken. They abuse one of ur weaknesses for their own interests. It is a fact that GC-Greek leadership like this mutual interests game. Do they care abt the GC refugees? No of course.

All Cypriots as far as I'm concerned are the majority. The minute that a Cypriot becomes a Turk and a Greek , Armenian or Latin then of course one has to look as to the numbers that make up those who call themselves Greek , Turkish , Armenian etc. It looks as if the G/Cs are then the overwhelming majority , the T/Cs a size able minority and the rest a tiny minority. If you believe that the T/Cs are Turks first and then Cypriots then they are by definition based on numerical realities a minority and the Armenians and other an even smaller minority.
If however you are a Cypriot as I'm first and foremost and believes that my motherland is Cyprus then you are most certainly in the majority.
To hell with majorities , we are all Cypriots .
As far as the Brits using the T/Cs to fight against the EOKA movement , what would you say if the GERMANS DURING WORLD WAR TWO , used the minorities in the various countries that they occupied to fight those that were engaged in their liberation struggle , in France for instance they could have used the small minority of Algerians or even Jews .

Milti,

TCs r TCs, GCs r GCs. We r all Cypriots not as a nation but as people born in Cyprus and having a unique to us Cypriot life style, tarditions and culture. Our Cypriotness stops there. The GC-Greek leadership and political interest groups of Greece and GCs have always collaborated and cooperated for their own common national interests and causes. Just a few days ago they reaffirmed this, during the visit of Karamanalis. The TC-Turkey leadership and political interest groups of TCs and Turkey have almsot same or similar relations. Why u pretending that u r not aware of these facts?

I'm VERY aware of these events and I'm saddened that we have not as yet become mature enough to stand on our own two feet and proudly declare our Independent Cypriotness . I understand that the 40 thousand Turkish occupying troops have something to do with our insecurities and I also understand that such events also cause the T/Cs to become more attached to the occupiers. I only wish I could encourage the Cypriot government to launch a programme designed to remove foreign influences surrounding our efforts to find a solution , there again I wish I could encourage Turkey to allow the T/Cs a voice that can be heard not as I beleive silenced by the settlers and the Turkish army.
Not long ago we learned of the T/C youths arrested for having the audacity ... to demand the removal of the occupying army from Cyprus .
Let me tell you something you can change historical names like the names of towns and villages but you can never change history , another thing I would like to remind Turkey off .

A several TC youngsters who were either really against the existence of Turkish troops in North or paid/decieved by some political groups to demonstrate against Turkish troops; only represent themselves. You r tending to take those type of TCs as a reference for yourself but rejecting to take reference vast majority of TC youngsters who wishes the existence of Turkish troops in North.

As I told u Milti, if u were right vast majority of TCs would have asked refuge from the so-called RoC...

As for the names of the villages and towns... Milti, even pre-74, most of the villages in Cyprus had one TC name and one GC name. Others who had one name were pronounced and written slighltly different by the people of 2 communities, respectively.

Here's a few examples:

1- Mari - Tatlısu

2- Lefkosia - Lefkoşa

3- Lemessos - Leymosun or Limasol

4- Varosha - Marash

5- Famagusta - Mağusa

Still today, TCs call most of the villages and towns in South with their Turkish names or pronounciations. For example u say Paphos, we say Baf. Maybe Ottomanized? Halil should be more knowledged abt the Turkish and Greek names of the villages in whole Cyprus.

At this occassion I'd like to ask Halil whether those 112 Turkish villages in South Cyprus were established by Ottomans or they were ex-catholic villages... Which villages were built by Ottomans from scratch during the Ottoman rule? Any ideas Milti?

[miltiades]

... Importantly AKEL was Cypriot , the Papapapagos government was foreign.

This is why I suggested you stop being a hypocrite.

Miltiades... it is not enough to think you are in the "right" ... you have to know why you are in the "right"....

Either it is acceptable for a form of behaviour to be carried out .. by everyone ... Or it is not acceptable .... by anyone!

O, for godsake woman dont be so bloody narrow minded .
The British also found the struggle unacceptable just as Greece and AKEL did.
What makes me a hypocrite then O ? Further more by stating historical facts is in no way a statement of right or wrong anymore than stating that Germany lost the war is a statement of right or wrong , merely a statement of fact.

[YFred]

Miltiades wrote:

By 1958 the number of Cypriot police had risen to 5475 of which G/Cs were 930, T/Cs 3832 British 657 , others 56.
Its clear here that the notorious British dogma of divide and rule was in full swing.

Why divide and rule, Miltiades? EOKA began struggling for Enosis in 1955. TCs were against Enosis, beside a Greek-GC ruled Cyprus. Right? Under such circumstances, what's wrong with Brits recruiting TCs as police auxilaries? What's wrong with TCs who accepted to join British Police force to struggle against EOKA? What's wrong with establishment of TMT as a counter organization to EOKA?

Had there been no armed struggle between 2 underground organizations(I wish it didn't happen) and no Enosis/Taksim demands; there would have been still a problem.

As I always stated the essential of the problem is power sharing in Cyprus. TCs want equal power sharing on legislative and judicial bodies because all Turks and TCs r aware of that Hellenes haven't forgotten and forgiven 1453, 1571, 1974.

Our common past kills every possibility for TCs voluntarily accepting minority status or with ur words "equal citizenship" in Cyprus.

Keep considering ur EOKA fighters how u wish but don't forget that the leader of both EOKAs was the same man; even most probably vast majority of EOKA-B members were EOKA members.

Anyway, I hope at least u r aware of that no TCs accept EOKA as liberation fighters of Cyprus but maybe Kikapu and his like minded TCs; I'm not sre.

Miltiades wrote:

The T/Cs are at the moment ruled and dictated to right now by a foreign country , I doubt whether they will remain oblivious to their graduial assimilation , or rather extinction by Turkey.Sooner or later they will rebel , take it from me its a matter of time before more and more voices are raised against the Turkish occupation.

This is ur and ur leadership only dream; a part of Akritas plan. Fabian Tactics: "Economically isolate them till they rebel against our enemies and help us free our country from Turks." Keep pursuing the same policy. Vast majority of TCs emigrated because of economic difficulties they faced in Northern Cyprus not because they were against Turkey and the so-called occupation army. Those TCs r angry with GC-Greek leadership and ur foreign backers.

If u reckon that ur foreign backers give support to ur cause and demands bcz of u r the rightful side; u r mistaken. They abuse one of ur weaknesses for their own interests. It is a fact that GC-Greek leadership like this mutual interests game. Do they care abt the GC refugees? No of course.

All Cypriots as far as I'm concerned are the majority. The minute that a Cypriot becomes a Turk and a Greek , Armenian or Latin then of course one has to look as to the numbers that make up those who call themselves Greek , Turkish , Armenian etc. It looks as if the G/Cs are then the overwhelming majority , the T/Cs a size able minority and the rest a tiny minority. If you believe that the T/Cs are Turks first and then Cypriots then they are by definition based on numerical realities a minority and the Armenians and other an even smaller minority.
If however you are a Cypriot as I'm first and foremost and believes that my motherland is Cyprus then you are most certainly in the majority.
To hell with majorities , we are all Cypriots .
As far as the Brits using the T/Cs to fight against the EOKA movement , what would you say if the GERMANS DURING WORLD WAR TWO , used the minorities in the various countries that they occupied to fight those that were engaged in their liberation struggle , in France for instance they could have used the small minority of Algerians or even Jews .

Milti,

TCs r TCs, GCs r GCs. We r all Cypriots not as a nation but as people born in Cyprus and having a unique to us Cypriot life style, tarditions and culture. Our Cypriotness stops there. The GC-Greek leadership and political interest groups of Greece and GCs have always collaborated and cooperated for their own common national interests and causes. Just a few days ago they reaffirmed this, during the visit of Karamanalis. The TC-Turkey leadership and political interest groups of TCs and Turkey have almsot same or similar relations. Why u pretending that u r not aware of these facts?

I'm VERY aware of these events and I'm saddened that we have not as yet become mature enough to stand on our own two feet and proudly declare our Independent Cypriotness . I understand that the 40 thousand Turkish occupying troops have something to do with our insecurities and I also understand that such events also cause the T/Cs to become more attached to the occupiers. I only wish I could encourage the Cypriot government to launch a programme designed to remove foreign influences surrounding our efforts to find a solution , there again I wish I could encourage Turkey to allow the T/Cs a voice that can be heard not as I beleive silenced by the settlers and the Turkish army.
Not long ago we learned of the T/C youths arrested for having the audacity ... to demand the removal of the occupying army from Cyprus .
Let me tell you something you can change historical names like the names of towns and villages but you can never change history , another thing I would like to remind Turkey off .

A several TC youngsters who were either really against the existence of Turkish troops in North or paid/decieved by some political groups to demonstrate against Turkish troops; only represent themselves. You r tending to take those type of TCs as a reference for yourself but rejecting to take reference vast majority of TC youngsters who wishes the existence of Turkish troops in North.

As I told u Milti, if u were right vast majority of TCs would have asked refuge from the so-called RoC...

As for the names of the villages and towns... Milti, even pre-74, most of the villages in Cyprus had one TC name and one GC name. Others who had one name were pronounced and written slighltly different by the people of 2 communities, respectively.

Here's a few examples:

1- Mari - Tatlısu

2- Lefkosia - Lefkoşa

3- Lemessos - Leymosun or Limasol

4- Varosha - Marash

5- Famagusta - Mağusa

Still today, TCs call most of the villages and towns in South with their Turkish names or pronounciations. For example u say Paphos, we say Baf. Maybe Ottomanized? Halil should be more knowledged abt the Turkish and Greek names of the villages in whole Cyprus.

At this occassion I'd like to ask Halil whether those 112 Turkish villages in South Cyprus were established by Ottomans or they were ex-catholic villages... Which villages were built by Ottomans from scratch during the Ottoman rule? Any ideas Milti?

I think you can count Lurucina as being pre-osmanli Turkish village.

[insan]

Miltiades wrote:

By 1958 the number of Cypriot police had risen to 5475 of which G/Cs were 930, T/Cs 3832 British 657 , others 56.
Its clear here that the notorious British dogma of divide and rule was in full swing.

Why divide and rule, Miltiades? EOKA began struggling for Enosis in 1955. TCs were against Enosis, beside a Greek-GC ruled Cyprus. Right? Under such circumstances, what's wrong with Brits recruiting TCs as police auxilaries? What's wrong with TCs who accepted to join British Police force to struggle against EOKA? What's wrong with establishment of TMT as a counter organization to EOKA?

Had there been no armed struggle between 2 underground organizations(I wish it didn't happen) and no Enosis/Taksim demands; there would have been still a problem.

As I always stated the essential of the problem is power sharing in Cyprus. TCs want equal power sharing on legislative and judicial bodies because all Turks and TCs r aware of that Hellenes haven't forgotten and forgiven 1453, 1571, 1974.

Our common past kills every possibility for TCs voluntarily accepting minority status or with ur words "equal citizenship" in Cyprus.

Keep considering ur EOKA fighters how u wish but don't forget that the leader of both EOKAs was the same man; even most probably vast majority of EOKA-B members were EOKA members.

Anyway, I hope at least u r aware of that no TCs accept EOKA as liberation fighters of Cyprus but maybe Kikapu and his like minded TCs; I'm not sre.

Miltiades wrote:

The T/Cs are at the moment ruled and dictated to right now by a foreign country , I doubt whether they will remain oblivious to their graduial assimilation , or rather extinction by Turkey.Sooner or later they will rebel , take it from me its a matter of time before more and more voices are raised against the Turkish occupation.

This is ur and ur leadership only dream; a part of Akritas plan. Fabian Tactics: "Economically isolate them till they rebel against our enemies and help us free our country from Turks." Keep pursuing the same policy. Vast majority of TCs emigrated because of economic difficulties they faced in Northern Cyprus not because they were against Turkey and the so-called occupation army. Those TCs r angry with GC-Greek leadership and ur foreign backers.

If u reckon that ur foreign backers give support to ur cause and demands bcz of u r the rightful side; u r mistaken. They abuse one of ur weaknesses for their own interests. It is a fact that GC-Greek leadership like this mutual interests game. Do they care abt the GC refugees? No of course.

All Cypriots as far as I'm concerned are the majority. The minute that a Cypriot becomes a Turk and a Greek , Armenian or Latin then of course one has to look as to the numbers that make up those who call themselves Greek , Turkish , Armenian etc. It looks as if the G/Cs are then the overwhelming majority , the T/Cs a size able minority and the rest a tiny minority. If you believe that the T/Cs are Turks first and then Cypriots then they are by definition based on numerical realities a minority and the Armenians and other an even smaller minority.
If however you are a Cypriot as I'm first and foremost and believes that my motherland is Cyprus then you are most certainly in the majority.
To hell with majorities , we are all Cypriots .
As far as the Brits using the T/Cs to fight against the EOKA movement , what would you say if the GERMANS DURING WORLD WAR TWO , used the minorities in the various countries that they occupied to fight those that were engaged in their liberation struggle , in France for instance they could have used the small minority of Algerians or even Jews .

Milti,

TCs r TCs, GCs r GCs. We r all Cypriots not as a nation but as people born in Cyprus and having a unique to us Cypriot life style, tarditions and culture. Our Cypriotness stops there. The GC-Greek leadership and political interest groups of Greece and GCs have always collaborated and cooperated for their own common national interests and causes. Just a few days ago they reaffirmed this, during the visit of Karamanalis. The TC-Turkey leadership and political interest groups of TCs and Turkey have almsot same or similar relations. Why u pretending that u r not aware of these facts?

I'm VERY aware of these events and I'm saddened that we have not as yet become mature enough to stand on our own two feet and proudly declare our Independent Cypriotness . I understand that the 40 thousand Turkish occupying troops have something to do with our insecurities and I also understand that such events also cause the T/Cs to become more attached to the occupiers. I only wish I could encourage the Cypriot government to launch a programme designed to remove foreign influences surrounding our efforts to find a solution , there again I wish I could encourage Turkey to allow the T/Cs a voice that can be heard not as I beleive silenced by the settlers and the Turkish army.
Not long ago we learned of the T/C youths arrested for having the audacity ... to demand the removal of the occupying army from Cyprus .
Let me tell you something you can change historical names like the names of towns and villages but you can never change history , another thing I would like to remind Turkey off .

A several TC youngsters who were either really against the existence of Turkish troops in North or paid/decieved by some political groups to demonstrate against Turkish troops; only represent themselves. You r tending to take those type of TCs as a reference for yourself but rejecting to take reference vast majority of TC youngsters who wishes the existence of Turkish troops in North.

As I told u Milti, if u were right vast majority of TCs would have asked refuge from the so-called RoC...

As for the names of the villages and towns... Milti, even pre-74, most of the villages in Cyprus had one TC name and one GC name. Others who had one name were pronounced and written slighltly different by the people of 2 communities, respectively.

Here's a few examples:

1- Mari - Tatlısu

2- Lefkosia - Lefkoşa

3- Lemessos - Leymosun or Limasol

4- Varosha - Marash

5- Famagusta - Mağusa

Still today, TCs call most of the villages and towns in South with their Turkish names or pronounciations. For example u say Paphos, we say Baf. Maybe Ottomanized? Halil should be more knowledged abt the Turkish and Greek names of the villages in whole Cyprus.

At this occassion I'd like to ask Halil whether those 112 Turkish villages in South Cyprus were established by Ottomans or they were ex-catholic villages... Which villages were built by Ottomans from scratch during the Ottoman rule? Any ideas Milti?

I think you can count Lurucina as being pre-osmanli Turkish village.

Pre-Osmanlı Turkish village?

[Oracle]

.. The British also found the struggle unacceptable just as Greece and AKEL did...

The Brits objected to EOKA because they were their targets for removal ... AKEL and Greece objected because they supported alternative means to the Brits' removal. Don't get your "rights" and "wrongs" mixed up .... Even the Brits would agree EOKA had a point, nowadays!

[miltiades]

All that Greece was concerned about was her relationship with the UK , just as when offered Cyprus on a plate way back in 1915 and flatly refused concerned then about her own interests :In October 1915 Britain offered Cyprus to Greece on the condition that she went to the aid of her Serbian ally. However Greek Prime Minister Zaimis declined the British offer in order to hold fast to King Constantine’s policy of neutrality. Greece had lost the greatest opportunity for the possession of Cyprus."""

http://www.helleniccomserve.com/stavrid ... anese.html
Tell me now Madam why on earth would I consider my self or indeed why should any G/C consider Greece as their motherland.
In 1915 Greece rejected Cyprus. How many of us that participated in the struggle knew of this rejection , I will tell you how many , NONE . No Google in those days , not impartial historical data , just Greek nonsense about the bravery of the Greeks !!
Yes Madam O , your beloved Greece took one look at Cyprus on offer from Great Britain and instantaneously rejected the offer , Cypriot donkeys they call us now and I'm sure they called us the same then.
We marched on singing I ELLADA POTE DEN PETHENI MONO LOGO KERO XAPOSTENI , and we still have this nonsensical foreign bloody anthem as our own. Well this Cypriot will not forget 1915 , 1955 and tragically 1974 when their freedom -mainland Greeks-was handed to them on plate by our tragic loss , thousands died and half of our island under foreign occupation because these scumbags fucked it up once again.
LONG LIVE CYPRUS AS AN INDEPENDED CYPRIOT NATION WITH CYPRIOT IDENTITY AND WITH A RESOUNDING YES CYPRIOT ETHNICITY.