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Postby Oracle » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:35 pm

miltiades wrote: ... Notable too is the action of the then Mayor of Nicosia ,
and AKEL member Y. Christodoulide who following the April 1st commencement of action against the British , he obliged to pay a visit to the Governors office and express outrage at the attacks by EOKA adding that AKEL was against violence .
AKEL continued to be against the struggle by active means as well as by its own propaganda that refered to KARAOLIS and DEMETRIOU as murderers and terrorists.


Yes AKEL objected ... Did they "sell us down the river"?

Let me also say that the Greek government of Papagos was strongly against the struggle worrying that it might damage Greeces relations with Britain ,


So Greece objected too?

so Greece did not sell us down the river once but on at least three occasions.


So why do you object to Greece's stance but not AKEL's?

Admit it, not all Greeks, AKEL or Mainlanders, would agree with all decisions at all times ... but that does not mean they ... "sell us down the river".

Stop being a hypocrite ....
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Postby boomerang » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:37 pm

YFred wrote:
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Hurting the oppressor’s economic interests achieves better results quicker.


so in short knucklehead you answered your questions re embargoes/isolations...

RoC entry to the EU seems to have atleast brought Turkey to the negotiation rather than the problem was solved in 1974 line...

Bumbolla boy, you are like a blind deer. In what way has GCs brought Turkey to the negotiating table. You will lose your bet with insan and will end up as a TC yet.


I do realise this is extremely hard for you to comprehend, but which part of the above didn't you understand knucklehead?...come on put these "o" levels to good use... :lol:

I got a feeling insan will be joining the ranks of the eunuchs...joining you knucklehead...the reason I say this is coz you seemed to be fascinated with anything to do with "bums"...so how much for your bum?... :lol:
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Postby YFred » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:39 pm

RAFAELLA wrote:
YFred wrote:They look so innocent and so ordinary human beings, and yet they are murderers and murderesses. What kind of brainwashing is needed to convert such innocent looking people to murdering?

Did they go to church just before they murdered or did they go after to wash away the guilt?


Merderers???
I guess you have to consider the majority of Gcs murderers since they supported EOKA in every possible way.

From what I hear they were church going people. So did they go to church before or after murdering?
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Postby insan » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:50 pm

miltiades wrote:
insan wrote:Miltiades wrote:
By 1958 the number of Cypriot police had risen to 5475 of which G/Cs were 930, T/Cs 3832 British 657 , others 56.
Its clear here that the notorious British dogma of divide and rule was in full swing.


Why divide and rule, Miltiades? EOKA began struggling for Enosis in 1955. TCs were against Enosis, beside a Greek-GC ruled Cyprus. Right? Under such circumstances, what's wrong with Brits recruiting TCs as police auxilaries? What's wrong with TCs who accepted to join British Police force to struggle against EOKA? What's wrong with establishment of TMT as a counter organization to EOKA?

Had there been no armed struggle between 2 underground organizations(I wish it didn't happen) and no Enosis/Taksim demands; there would have been still a problem.

As I always stated the essential of the problem is power sharing in Cyprus. TCs want equal power sharing on legislative and judicial bodies because all Turks and TCs r aware of that Hellenes haven't forgotten and forgiven 1453, 1571, 1974.

Our common past kills every possibility for TCs voluntarily accepting minority status or with ur words "equal citizenship" in Cyprus.

Keep considering ur EOKA fighters how u wish but don't forget that the leader of both EOKAs was the same man; even most probably vast majority of EOKA-B members were EOKA members.

Anyway, I hope at least u r aware of that no TCs accept EOKA as liberation fighters of Cyprus but maybe Kikapu and his like minded TCs; I'm not sre.

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The T/Cs are at the moment ruled and dictated to right now by a foreign country , I doubt whether they will remain oblivious to their graduial assimilation , or rather extinction by Turkey.Sooner or later they will rebel , take it from me its a matter of time before more and more voices are raised against the Turkish occupation.


This is ur and ur leadership only dream; a part of Akritas plan. Fabian Tactics: "Economically isolate them till they rebel against our enemies and help us free our country from Turks." Keep pursuing the same policy. Vast majority of TCs emigrated because of economic difficulties they faced in Northern Cyprus not because they were against Turkey and the so-called occupation army. Those TCs r angry with GC-Greek leadership and ur foreign backers.

If u reckon that ur foreign backers give support to ur cause and demands bcz of u r the rightful side; u r mistaken. They abuse one of ur weaknesses for their own interests. It is a fact that GC-Greek leadership like this mutual interests game. Do they care abt the GC refugees? No of course.

All Cypriots as far as I'm concerned are the majority. The minute that a Cypriot becomes a Turk and a Greek , Armenian or Latin then of course one has to look as to the numbers that make up those who call themselves Greek , Turkish , Armenian etc. It looks as if the G/Cs are then the overwhelming majority , the T/Cs a size able minority and the rest a tiny minority. If you believe that the T/Cs are Turks first and then Cypriots then they are by definition based on numerical realities a minority and the Armenians and other an even smaller minority.
If however you are a Cypriot as I'm first and foremost and believes that my motherland is Cyprus then you are most certainly in the majority.
To hell with majorities , we are all Cypriots .
As far as the Brits using the T/Cs to fight against the EOKA movement , what would you say if the GERMANS DURING WORLD WAR TWO , used the minorities in the various countries that they occupied to fight those that were engaged in their liberation struggle , in France for instance they could have used the small minority of Algerians or even Jews .


Milti,

TCs r TCs, GCs r GCs. We r all Cypriots not as a nation but as people born in Cyprus and having a unique to us Cypriot life style, tarditions and culture. Our Cypriotness stops there. The GC-Greek leadership and political interest groups of Greece and GCs have always collaborated and cooperated for their own common national interests and causes. Just a few days ago they reaffirmed this, during the visit of Karamanalis. The TC-Turkey leadership and political interest groups of TCs and Turkey have almsot same or similar relations. Why u pretending that u r not aware of these facts?
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Postby Oracle » Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:01 pm

YFred wrote:
RAFAELLA wrote:
YFred wrote:They look so innocent and so ordinary human beings, and yet they are murderers and murderesses. What kind of brainwashing is needed to convert such innocent looking people to murdering?

Did they go to church just before they murdered or did they go after to wash away the guilt?


Merderers???
I guess you have to consider the majority of Gcs murderers since they supported EOKA in every possible way.

From what I hear they were church going people. So did they go to church before or after murdering?


Considering they never "murdered" anyone ... but fought for freedom ... your question is misplaced.

Yet you typically fail to tackle the real questions!

Did the Brits go to Church whilst they enslaved half the world?

Did the Otto-Turks pray to anyone whilst they slaughtered 1.5 Million Armenians or carried out other countless atrocities?

Did the invading Turkish troops in 1974 thank Allah for the number of innocents they annihilated?

You are a stupid 'man' ....
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Postby YFred » Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:03 pm

Oracle wrote:
YFred wrote:
RAFAELLA wrote:
YFred wrote:They look so innocent and so ordinary human beings, and yet they are murderers and murderesses. What kind of brainwashing is needed to convert such innocent looking people to murdering?

Did they go to church just before they murdered or did they go after to wash away the guilt?


Merderers???
I guess you have to consider the majority of Gcs murderers since they supported EOKA in every possible way.

From what I hear they were church going people. So did they go to church before or after murdering?


Considering they never "murdered" anyone ... but fought for freedom ... your question is misplaced.

Yet you typically fail to tackle the real questions!

Did the Brits go to Church whilst they enslaved half the world?

Did the Otto-Turks pray to anyone whilst they slaughtered 1.5 Million Armenians or carried out other countless atrocities?

Did the invading Turkish troops in 1974 thank Allah for the number of innocents they annihilated?

You are a stupid 'man' ....

I will answer all your questions, if you answer mine.
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Postby boomerang » Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:06 pm

YFred wrote:
Oracle wrote:
YFred wrote:
RAFAELLA wrote:
YFred wrote:They look so innocent and so ordinary human beings, and yet they are murderers and murderesses. What kind of brainwashing is needed to convert such innocent looking people to murdering?

Did they go to church just before they murdered or did they go after to wash away the guilt?


Merderers???
I guess you have to consider the majority of Gcs murderers since they supported EOKA in every possible way.

From what I hear they were church going people. So did they go to church before or after murdering?


Considering they never "murdered" anyone ... but fought for freedom ... your question is misplaced.

Yet you typically fail to tackle the real questions!

Did the Brits go to Church whilst they enslaved half the world?

Did the Otto-Turks pray to anyone whilst they slaughtered 1.5 Million Armenians or carried out other countless atrocities?

Did the invading Turkish troops in 1974 thank Allah for the number of innocents they annihilated?

You are a stupid 'man' ....

I will answer all your questions, if you answer mine.


She answered your question knucklehead...

Oracle please tell me they are not handing out "o" levels to everyone that crawls through the door these days... :lol:
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Postby Oracle » Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:10 pm

boomerang wrote:
YFred wrote:
Oracle wrote:
YFred wrote:
RAFAELLA wrote:
YFred wrote:They look so innocent and so ordinary human beings, and yet they are murderers and murderesses. What kind of brainwashing is needed to convert such innocent looking people to murdering?

Did they go to church just before they murdered or did they go after to wash away the guilt?


Merderers???
I guess you have to consider the majority of Gcs murderers since they supported EOKA in every possible way.

From what I hear they were church going people. So did they go to church before or after murdering?


Considering they never "murdered" anyone ... but fought for freedom ... your question is misplaced.

Yet you typically fail to tackle the real questions!

Did the Brits go to Church whilst they enslaved half the world?

Did the Otto-Turks pray to anyone whilst they slaughtered 1.5 Million Armenians or carried out other countless atrocities?

Did the invading Turkish troops in 1974 thank Allah for the number of innocents they annihilated?

You are a stupid 'man' ....

I will answer all your questions, if you answer mine.


She answered your question knucklehead...

Oracle please tell me they are not handing out "o" levels to everyone that crawls through the door these days... :lol:


We are reviewing this sad decline in standards, as exemplified by knucklehead ... Ooops, I mean YFred ... We shall be recalling some handed out too generously, to encourage the British public. Bad mistake! :?
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Postby YFred » Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:18 pm

Oracle wrote:
boomerang wrote:
YFred wrote:
Oracle wrote:
YFred wrote:
RAFAELLA wrote:
YFred wrote:They look so innocent and so ordinary human beings, and yet they are murderers and murderesses. What kind of brainwashing is needed to convert such innocent looking people to murdering?

Did they go to church just before they murdered or did they go after to wash away the guilt?


Merderers???
I guess you have to consider the majority of Gcs murderers since they supported EOKA in every possible way.

From what I hear they were church going people. So did they go to church before or after murdering?


Considering they never "murdered" anyone ... but fought for freedom ... your question is misplaced.

Yet you typically fail to tackle the real questions!

Did the Brits go to Church whilst they enslaved half the world?

Did the Otto-Turks pray to anyone whilst they slaughtered 1.5 Million Armenians or carried out other countless atrocities?

Did the invading Turkish troops in 1974 thank Allah for the number of innocents they annihilated?

You are a stupid 'man' ....

I will answer all your questions, if you answer mine.


She answered your question knucklehead...

Oracle please tell me they are not handing out "o" levels to everyone that crawls through the door these days... :lol:


We are reviewing this sad decline in standards, as exemplified by knucklehead ... Ooops, I mean YFred ... We shall be recalling some handed out too generously, to encourage the British public. Bad mistake! :?

So, if it wasn’t guns and ammo the GC girls were carrying in there knickers, what were bulges in their knickers?

To be a murderer, you don’t have to pull the trigger, taking part in the planning is cold blooded enough and sufficient to be convicted in any court of law.

Now did they go to church before or after?
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Postby boomerang » Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:26 pm

knucklehead is still going on... :lol:

maybe he read Oracle's post a few hundred times coz after claiming he wasn't going to answer, he decided to answer... :lol:

The "o" levels must have kicked in... :lol:
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