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[Talisker]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/scien ... 72095.html

Self-serving egotist or visionary?

[Oracle]

He's no more 'self-serving' than any other scientist. Surely driven by that need to be the first to see a new result. A Chimera, never before seen by any other human in history. Aaahh sweet memories of Clones I have known!

I wish him success ... Cyprus the Cradle of Civilisation. The Birthplace of Love .... Where better to seed the new breed

[Talisker]

This is sick - we have enough healthy humans in the world today without resurrecting dead children through bizarre chimaera experiments. Cloning of animals has shown a worrying high frequency of medical problems in the experimental 'progeny', and I have no doubt this will be replicated in human cloning experiments.

Proper scientists obtain ethical approval for their experiments, and take into account potential problems indicated from similar animal experiments. This guy is attempting to satisfy his own ego...............

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/scien ... 72701.html

[Oracle]

This is sick - we have enough healthy humans in the world today without resurrecting dead children through bizarre chimaera experiments. Cloning of animals has shown a worrying high frequency of medical problems in the experimental 'progeny', and I have no doubt this will be replicated in human cloning experiments.

Proper scientists obtain ethical approval for their experiments, and take into account potential problems indicated from similar animal experiments. This guy is attempting to satisfy his own ego...............

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/scien ... 72701.html

They are no more bizarre than many experiments might appear to laymen! Early studies with chromosome retention experiments suggest some cell types are more dominant than others. Mouse cells chuck out human chromosomes faster as I recall ... so he is only using cow cells as the progeny may be viable for longer. He's stated he hasn't done any transfers .... so does he need further ethical approval?

[T_C]

I can't seem to make up my mind whether or not this is a good/bad thing.

It's good because we need to keep learning and trying new things, but bad when you think of the ways in which people could use them. You probably think it's wrong because of the generation you belong to, but I can think of many things that were shunned upon not so long ago that are just a normal part of life in recent times.

Gotta move with the world!

[Sotos]

I think they should get good and persistent results with animals before they try it on humans! I think it will be done eventually and I can see some way that it can be helpful but I think it is unethical to try to create humans before the technique is perfected because of the much higher chance that those people will be born with problems.

[Talisker]

I think they should get good and persistent results with animals before they try it on humans! I think it will be done eventually and I can see some way that it can be helpful but I think it is unethical to try to create humans before the technique is perfected because of the much higher chance that those people will be born with problems.

Agree with you completely Sotos - one day this will be achieved safely, but my understanding is that we are not yet at this stage. The race to be the 'first' should be controlled by consideration for the wellbeing of chidren resulting from such experiments.

[Oracle]

I think they should get good and persistent results with animals before they try it on humans! I think it will be done eventually and I can see some way that it can be helpful but I think it is unethical to try to create humans before the technique is perfected because of the much higher chance that those people will be born with problems.

Agree with you completely Sotos - one day this will be achieved safely, but my understanding is that we are not yet at this stage. The race to be the 'first' should be controlled by consideration for the wellbeing of chidren resulting from such experiments.

Which is exactly what Dr Zavos said:

"We're not really under pressure to deliver a cloned baby to this world. What we are under pressure to do is to deliver a cloned baby that is a healthy one," he said.

[denizaksulu]

We can only hope that what he does is put to good use. The sceptics must be science fiction fans.