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[Kikapu]

Bad timing Y-Fronts!

It’s only yesterday that Hillary Clinton expressed her understanding why the AP failed and how such an arrangement should’ve never been proposed in the first place!

"And the truth is that any solution agreed by the two sides would not be very different from the 2004 plan – it may include a few new provisions and lack a few of the old ones but only a fool could expect it to be based on a new philosophy."
This is the best bit.

YFred,

Why are you against True Democracy and respect for Human Rights and International Laws for Cyprus as the case is in all other EU member countries, to be part of a settlement, instead of supporting Racist policies of the Annan Plan. Do you not enjoy Democracy, Human Rights protections for yourself in the UK, and if not, why are you living there.?

Kiks what you fail to see is that with your True Democracy in place it will not last more than 5 seconds before either first GC is killed over a dispute or first TC is killed and we'll be back to 1963 before you get a chance to say heath robinson, old boy. Why can you not see it?

Why can't you see, that we are not back in 1963 anymore, YFred, or as Dorothy would say to Toto "I don't think we are in Kansas anymore". We did not even have Democracy back in those days, so how can you even make a comparison. I would have expected such answers from NeoPartionist VP and Zan, but not from you. Pretty soon, I will be forced to group you with those two clowns. Stop making stories you cannot support with decent arguments against True Democracy. You do not seem to complain the protections you are guaranteed under the UK's democracy, so why would you expect anything less in Cyprus. I'm very surprised at you, to say the least.!

[Kikapu]

Bad timing Y-Fronts!

It’s only yesterday that Hillary Clinton expressed her understanding why the AP failed and how such an arrangement should’ve never been proposed in the first place!

Where is this report, GR. I would like to read it, if all possible.!

[insan]

Bad timing Y-Fronts!

It’s only yesterday that Hillary Clinton expressed her understanding why the AP failed and how such an arrangement should’ve never been proposed in the first place!

Yeah... Hillary wants one more no vote from GCs and 1 more yes vote from TCs in order to base her arguments on partition. Listen what they say and if u r capable; analyze what they mean...

[Get Real!]

Bad timing Y-Fronts!

It’s only yesterday that Hillary Clinton expressed her understanding why the AP failed and how such an arrangement should’ve never been proposed in the first place!

Where is this report, GR. I would like to read it, if all possible.!

It was on the news, I didn’t see the story right from the start… just caught one of their senators(?) asking a question during one of their sessions if she’ll be supporting the AP or anything similar which is “against democracy and western values” to pretty much quote the guy. It should be in here but you need membership.

http://clinton.einnews.com/cyprus/

[Get Real!]

Yeah... Hillary wants one more no vote from GCs and 1 more yes vote from TCs in order to base her arguments on partition. Listen what they say and if u r capable; analyze what they mean...

Well that's what we've got you for Insan! To analyze and interpret everything for us! Here’s another complex issue for you…

http://www.scoobydooweloveyou.com/

[Viewpoint]

Bad timing Y-Fronts!

It’s only yesterday that Hillary Clinton expressed her understanding why the AP failed and how such an arrangement should’ve never been proposed in the first place!

"And the truth is that any solution agreed by the two sides would not be very different from the 2004 plan – it may include a few new provisions and lack a few of the old ones but only a fool could expect it to be based on a new philosophy."
This is the best bit.

YFred,

Why are you against True Democracy and respect for Human Rights and International Laws for Cyprus as the case is in all other EU member countries, to be part of a settlement, instead of supporting Racist policies of the Annan Plan. Do you not enjoy Democracy, Human Rights protections for yourself in the UK, and if not, why are you living there.?

Kiks what you fail to see is that with your True Democracy in place it will not last more than 5 seconds before either first GC is killed over a dispute or first TC is killed and we'll be back to 1963 before you get a chance to say heath robinson, old boy. Why can you not see it?

Why can't you see, that we are not back in 1963 anymore, YFred, or as Dorothy would say to Toto "I don't think we are in Kansas anymore". We did not even have Democracy back in those days, so how can you even make a comparison. I would have expected such answers from NeoPartionist VP and Zan, but not from you. Pretty soon, I will be forced to group you with those two clowns. Stop making stories you cannot support with decent arguments against True Democracy. You do not seem to complain the protections you are guaranteed under the UK's democracy, so why would you expect anything less in Cyprus. I'm very surprised at you, to say the least.!

You are the real clown on this forum Kikapu and what Yfred is stating is 100% correct your GC style democracy imposed on TCs will not last 5 minutes and all hell will break lose, hey presto back to 1963. There has to be clear cut safeguards and guarantees to support a BBF with political equality of the 2 states.

[Kikapu]

Bad timing Y-Fronts!

It’s only yesterday that Hillary Clinton expressed her understanding why the AP failed and how such an arrangement should’ve never been proposed in the first place!

"And the truth is that any solution agreed by the two sides would not be very different from the 2004 plan – it may include a few new provisions and lack a few of the old ones but only a fool could expect it to be based on a new philosophy."
This is the best bit.

YFred,

Why are you against True Democracy and respect for Human Rights and International Laws for Cyprus as the case is in all other EU member countries, to be part of a settlement, instead of supporting Racist policies of the Annan Plan. Do you not enjoy Democracy, Human Rights protections for yourself in the UK, and if not, why are you living there.?

Kiks what you fail to see is that with your True Democracy in place it will not last more than 5 seconds before either first GC is killed over a dispute or first TC is killed and we'll be back to 1963 before you get a chance to say heath robinson, old boy. Why can you not see it?

Why can't you see, that we are not back in 1963 anymore, YFred, or as Dorothy would say to Toto "I don't think we are in Kansas anymore". We did not even have Democracy back in those days, so how can you even make a comparison. I would have expected such answers from NeoPartionist VP and Zan, but not from you. Pretty soon, I will be forced to group you with those two clowns. Stop making stories you cannot support with decent arguments against True Democracy. You do not seem to complain the protections you are guaranteed under the UK's democracy, so why would you expect anything less in Cyprus. I'm very surprised at you, to say the least.!

You are the real clown on this forum Kikapu and what Yfred is stating is 100% correct your GC style democracy imposed on TCs will not last 5 minutes and all hell will break lose, hey presto back to 1963. There has to be clear cut safeguards and guarantees to support a BBF with political equality of the 2 states.

Don't talk to me about 1963 which you don't know anything about. In 1963 you were being nursed by your mother in the UK, so drop your pretence of knowing it all.

So tell me, VP, each time a settler rapes, or murders a TC in the "trnc", do you have the repeat of 1963 which you don't know anything about, or do you have a legal system where the accused is tried and sentenced if found guilty. The settlers are the majority after all, so the justice system must be working, right, because I have not seen repeat of 1963 in the north, even though you don't know anything about 1963.! So why would there be repeat of 1963, if crimes are committed between the TC's and the GC's. They will be dealt with the law as they are in the north, or did I miss something.

Stop with your stupid demands for safeguards for everything, including even preventing a GC from pissing in your garden. You have said it many times, that if safeguards are violated by any one side, then there should be an automatic partition. I think I smell a BIG rat, and that rat is you, VP, because you will blow up TC kids in their school and put the blame on the GC's, just so to get your partition, a trick you have learned from Fascist Denktash, I’m sure. Forget it rat, no one is going to give you such "safeguards" so that you can ruin the lives of decent TC's once again.

[Nikitas]

Assuming VP is right and there is a blow up and partition, then we must make sure that the partition is a fair one.

The 63 37 deal is simply not going to fly. Even pro TC newspapers like the Guardian have seen through that and will not push for it.

The Annan plan gave "immediate gratification" to everyone except GCs. Even Britain got new territory in the guise of continental shelf and additional territorial waters right away. The most insulting thing was that some expected the GCs not to see this obvious fault in the plan. We are dumb, but not that dumb!

[Viewpoint]

Assuming VP is right and there is a blow up and partition, then we must make sure that the partition is a fair one.

The 63 37 deal is simply not going to fly. Even pro TC newspapers like the Guardian have seen through that and will not push for it.

The Annan plan gave "immediate gratification" to everyone except GCs. Even Britain got new territory in the guise of continental shelf and additional territorial waters right away. The most insulting thing was that some expected the GCs not to see this obvious fault in the plan. We are dumb, but not that dumb!

The % could be negotiated to allow as many refugees back as possible but also allow for the TRNC to be economically viable.

[Viewpoint]

Bad timing Y-Fronts!

It’s only yesterday that Hillary Clinton expressed her understanding why the AP failed and how such an arrangement should’ve never been proposed in the first place!

"And the truth is that any solution agreed by the two sides would not be very different from the 2004 plan – it may include a few new provisions and lack a few of the old ones but only a fool could expect it to be based on a new philosophy."
This is the best bit.

YFred,

Why are you against True Democracy and respect for Human Rights and International Laws for Cyprus as the case is in all other EU member countries, to be part of a settlement, instead of supporting Racist policies of the Annan Plan. Do you not enjoy Democracy, Human Rights protections for yourself in the UK, and if not, why are you living there.?

Kiks what you fail to see is that with your True Democracy in place it will not last more than 5 seconds before either first GC is killed over a dispute or first TC is killed and we'll be back to 1963 before you get a chance to say heath robinson, old boy. Why can you not see it?

Why can't you see, that we are not back in 1963 anymore, YFred, or as Dorothy would say to Toto "I don't think we are in Kansas anymore". We did not even have Democracy back in those days, so how can you even make a comparison. I would have expected such answers from NeoPartionist VP and Zan, but not from you. Pretty soon, I will be forced to group you with those two clowns. Stop making stories you cannot support with decent arguments against True Democracy. You do not seem to complain the protections you are guaranteed under the UK's democracy, so why would you expect anything less in Cyprus. I'm very surprised at you, to say the least.!

You are the real clown on this forum Kikapu and what Yfred is stating is 100% correct your GC style democracy imposed on TCs will not last 5 minutes and all hell will break lose, hey presto back to 1963. There has to be clear cut safeguards and guarantees to support a BBF with political equality of the 2 states.

Don't talk to me about 1963 which you don't know anything about. In 1963 you were being nursed by your mother in the UK, so drop your pretence of knowing it all.

So tell me, VP, each time a settler rapes, or murders a TC in the "trnc", do you have the repeat of 1963 which you don't know anything about, or do you have a legal system where the accused is tried and sentenced if found guilty. The settlers are the majority after all, so the justice system must be working, right, because I have not seen repeat of 1963 in the north, even though you don't know anything about 1963.! So why would there be repeat of 1963, if crimes are committed between the TC's and the GC's. They will be dealt with the law as they are in the north, or did I miss something.

Stop with your stupid demands for safeguards for everything, including even preventing a GC from pissing in your garden. You have said it many times, that if safeguards are violated by any one side, then there should be an automatic partition. I think I smell a BIG rat, and that rat is you, VP, because you will blow up TC kids in their school and put the blame on the GC's, just so to get your partition, a trick you have learned from Fascist Denktash, I’m sure. Forget it rat, no one is going to give you such "safeguards" so that you can ruin the lives of decent TC's once again.

Calm down you clown, hit a nerve here me thinks...your comparision is so immature a rapist in the north crap..we dont have them and TCs administer the law thats what I have been trying to get accross, thats why there is not return to 1963, if TCs and not GCs administer the laws then no problem but your forced solution which you want us to accept would not last 5 minutes. Even today when incidents happen in the GC south the GC police do not take us seriously nor do they investigate, this is how it would be for TCs. Your mask is gradually dropping and you continue to vomit your venom at the TCs and TRNC.

The automatic partition or any other alternative as demand by GCs would be a deterrant if MAJOR constitiutional laws are not adhered to by either side.

You are a total TCs hater and will do anything to run us into the ground.