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[boomerang]

I think anyone can make up numbers and publish them ..... you just have to own a newspaper to push them on

Do we have a real Economist on the forum to give us an unbiased opinion on how much trade RoC has lost do to having no access to the Turkish Airspace, Sea Ports and the Economy in general. I suspect it runs into billions over 20 years.

Not as much as what Turkey is pissing down the shithole knucklehead, with the "a" no solution crap on a pedestal , while prostituting herself with the IMF, thus gang-raping and condemning future Turkish citizens to a life of misery...

[YFred]

I think anyone can make up numbers and publish them ..... you just have to own a newspaper to push them on

Do we have a real Economist on the forum to give us an unbiased opinion on how much trade RoC has lost do to having no access to the Turkish Airspace, Sea Ports and the Economy in general. I suspect it runs into billions over 20 years.

Not as much as what Turkey is pissing down the shithole knucklehead, with the "a" no solution crap on a pedestal , while prostituting herself with the IMF, thus gang-raping and condemning future Turkish citizens to a life of misery...

You have sexual fustration in your life, get some help.
Regarding Turkey, she is a big girl and can take care of herself, financially and militarily. You worry about Cypriots and what they are losing whilst there is no agreement, we might get somewhere then.

[boomerang]

I think anyone can make up numbers and publish them ..... you just have to own a newspaper to push them on

Do we have a real Economist on the forum to give us an unbiased opinion on how much trade RoC has lost do to having no access to the Turkish Airspace, Sea Ports and the Economy in general. I suspect it runs into billions over 20 years.

Not as much as what Turkey is pissing down the shithole knucklehead, with the "a" no solution crap on a pedestal , while prostituting herself with the IMF, thus gang-raping and condemning future Turkish citizens to a life of misery...

You have sexual fustration in your life, get some help.
Regarding Turkey, she is a big girl and can take care of herself, financially and militarily. You worry about Cypriots and what they are losing whilst there is no agreement, we might get somewhere then.

for you to make a comment such as this it can only mean in your household the flag is flying high tonight...now salute the wife and leave politics and economics to others that actually have a clue knucklehead...

[DT.]

YFred, you are being ridiculous, stop embarrassing yourself... water? I Agree that the Cyprus Shipping Industry would gain by having access to Turkeys ports but you guys are the problem, not us... we've been knocking on your door for years, infact this is one of the chapters you have to complete in order even to start any talks regarding accession to EU. (still a big joke). Everything is in your hands, you are the loosers and not us... infact you have a lot to gain than to loose. Cyprus Mail is getting seriously ridiculous day by day... and infact i know one of the owners, perhaps i should ask him where they took these numbers from.

That was just an example. I would like an Economists view of the matter. Another example is how much is the Shipping industry losing by having no access to Turkish Ports. If GC think that they are blocking Turkish EU accession they are in a dream land. Turkey itself is not ready, and will not be so maybe for another 10 years, in the mean time GCs are congratulating themselves for blocking accession and costing Turkey money. There is an old proverb "dogruyu soyleyeni dokuz koyden kovmushlas - kicked out of 9 villages for speaking the truth."

here you go Yfred. One of the largest shipping fleets in the world. Since the EU membership this is even more important since it is no longer considered a flag of convenience yet still maintained its ranking in the worlds shiping industry.

http://www.csc-cy.org/

Turkeys ports would be nice but its not that big a deal, its just making you guys look inconsistent with the EU since you've now proven that Turkey will sign and breach any agreement.

[turkkan]

If turkey had no trouble with the ROC, and lets say was christian it would need AT LEAST another ten years with some serious reform and investment in all the accession chapters before it can ever join the EU so at this moment in time you cant state that its loosing money by time spent out of the EU.

But if you look at the amount of money the ROC has lost in the past 35 years due to the events of 74 with land lost and everything that goes with that, per capita the financial impact it is way bigger on the ROC than any economic impact turkey has suffered due to its peace operation.

[DT.]

If turkey had no trouble with the ROC, and lets say was christian it would need AT LEAST another ten years with some serious reform and investment in all the accession chapters before it can ever join the EU so at this moment in time you cant state that its loosing money by time spent out of the EU.

But if you look at the amount of money the ROC has lost in the past 35 years due to the events of 74 with land lost and everything that goes with that, per capita the financial impact it is way bigger on the ROC than any economic impact turkey has suffered due to its peace operation.

I'll give you this, Turkey has been a major force of destruction on Cyprus. You're right.

[YFred]

YFred, you are being ridiculous, stop embarrassing yourself... water? I Agree that the Cyprus Shipping Industry would gain by having access to Turkeys ports but you guys are the problem, not us... we've been knocking on your door for years, infact this is one of the chapters you have to complete in order even to start any talks regarding accession to EU. (still a big joke). Everything is in your hands, you are the loosers and not us... infact you have a lot to gain than to loose. Cyprus Mail is getting seriously ridiculous day by day... and infact i know one of the owners, perhaps i should ask him where they took these numbers from.

That was just an example. I would like an Economists view of the matter. Another example is how much is the Shipping industry losing by having no access to Turkish Ports. If GC think that they are blocking Turkish EU accession they are in a dream land. Turkey itself is not ready, and will not be so maybe for another 10 years, in the mean time GCs are congratulating themselves for blocking accession and costing Turkey money. There is an old proverb "dogruyu soyleyeni dokuz koyden kovmushlas - kicked out of 9 villages for speaking the truth."

here you go Yfred. One of the largest shipping fleets in the world. Since the EU membership this is even more important since it is no longer considered a flag of convenience yet still maintained its ranking in the worlds shiping industry.

http://www.csc-cy.org/

Turkeys ports would be nice but its not that big a deal, its just making you guys look inconsistent with the EU since you've now proven that Turkey will sign and breach any agreement.

Very nice too, now where does it say how much money they lost, if none what is all the fuss about.

[DT.]

YFred, you are being ridiculous, stop embarrassing yourself... water? I Agree that the Cyprus Shipping Industry would gain by having access to Turkeys ports but you guys are the problem, not us... we've been knocking on your door for years, infact this is one of the chapters you have to complete in order even to start any talks regarding accession to EU. (still a big joke). Everything is in your hands, you are the loosers and not us... infact you have a lot to gain than to loose. Cyprus Mail is getting seriously ridiculous day by day... and infact i know one of the owners, perhaps i should ask him where they took these numbers from.

That was just an example. I would like an Economists view of the matter. Another example is how much is the Shipping industry losing by having no access to Turkish Ports. If GC think that they are blocking Turkish EU accession they are in a dream land. Turkey itself is not ready, and will not be so maybe for another 10 years, in the mean time GCs are congratulating themselves for blocking accession and costing Turkey money. There is an old proverb "dogruyu soyleyeni dokuz koyden kovmushlas - kicked out of 9 villages for speaking the truth."

here you go Yfred. One of the largest shipping fleets in the world. Since the EU membership this is even more important since it is no longer considered a flag of convenience yet still maintained its ranking in the worlds shiping industry.

http://www.csc-cy.org/

Turkeys ports would be nice but its not that big a deal, its just making you guys look inconsistent with the EU since you've now proven that Turkey will sign and breach any agreement.

Very nice too, now where does it say how much money they lost, if none what is all the fuss about.

you're the only one kicking up a fuss right now.

[YFred]

YFred, you are being ridiculous, stop embarrassing yourself... water? I Agree that the Cyprus Shipping Industry would gain by having access to Turkeys ports but you guys are the problem, not us... we've been knocking on your door for years, infact this is one of the chapters you have to complete in order even to start any talks regarding accession to EU. (still a big joke). Everything is in your hands, you are the loosers and not us... infact you have a lot to gain than to loose. Cyprus Mail is getting seriously ridiculous day by day... and infact i know one of the owners, perhaps i should ask him where they took these numbers from.

That was just an example. I would like an Economists view of the matter. Another example is how much is the Shipping industry losing by having no access to Turkish Ports. If GC think that they are blocking Turkish EU accession they are in a dream land. Turkey itself is not ready, and will not be so maybe for another 10 years, in the mean time GCs are congratulating themselves for blocking accession and costing Turkey money. There is an old proverb "dogruyu soyleyeni dokuz koyden kovmushlas - kicked out of 9 villages for speaking the truth."

here you go Yfred. One of the largest shipping fleets in the world. Since the EU membership this is even more important since it is no longer considered a flag of convenience yet still maintained its ranking in the worlds shiping industry.

http://www.csc-cy.org/

Turkeys ports would be nice but its not that big a deal, its just making you guys look inconsistent with the EU since you've now proven that Turkey will sign and breach any agreement.

Very nice too, now where does it say how much money they lost, if none what is all the fuss about.

you're the only one kicking up a fuss right now.

OK then, I'll stop kicking up fuss, what shall I kick instead?

[DT.]

YFred, you are being ridiculous, stop embarrassing yourself... water? I Agree that the Cyprus Shipping Industry would gain by having access to Turkeys ports but you guys are the problem, not us... we've been knocking on your door for years, infact this is one of the chapters you have to complete in order even to start any talks regarding accession to EU. (still a big joke). Everything is in your hands, you are the loosers and not us... infact you have a lot to gain than to loose. Cyprus Mail is getting seriously ridiculous day by day... and infact i know one of the owners, perhaps i should ask him where they took these numbers from.

That was just an example. I would like an Economists view of the matter. Another example is how much is the Shipping industry losing by having no access to Turkish Ports. If GC think that they are blocking Turkish EU accession they are in a dream land. Turkey itself is not ready, and will not be so maybe for another 10 years, in the mean time GCs are congratulating themselves for blocking accession and costing Turkey money. There is an old proverb "dogruyu soyleyeni dokuz koyden kovmushlas - kicked out of 9 villages for speaking the truth."

here you go Yfred. One of the largest shipping fleets in the world. Since the EU membership this is even more important since it is no longer considered a flag of convenience yet still maintained its ranking in the worlds shiping industry.

http://www.csc-cy.org/

Turkeys ports would be nice but its not that big a deal, its just making you guys look inconsistent with the EU since you've now proven that Turkey will sign and breach any agreement.

Very nice too, now where does it say how much money they lost, if none what is all the fuss about.

you're the only one kicking up a fuss right now.

OK then, I'll stop kicking up fuss, what shall I kick instead?

insan