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Postby turkkan » Thu Apr 23, 2009 3:58 pm

There's a really nasty streak in you, turkkan that I, and I suspect others, find objectionable.


Any nastiness i exhibit is in response to sarcasm or someone who is not turkish cypriot trying to speak on all our behalf. Otherwise you will find i will speak to you in a blunt but respectful manner. Second, there are plenty of people on this forum who refer to turks as gypsies or animals yet have no action taken against them, if your going to speak about objectionable content start with your own lot and then get to me.
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Re: TRNC: Destroying the Soul of A Community

Postby denizaksulu » Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:08 pm

insan wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
insan wrote:
Omer Seyhan wrote:
insan wrote:
Omer Seyhan wrote:As a Turkish Cypriot but foremost a Cypriot I denounce the TRNC everyday and I want to share with the world why.

The TRNC is destroying the T/C community - it will not only assimilate us but will ruin our community psychologically because of the circumstances in which they live. Living under a foreign occupation and trying to survive makes people do terrible things and destroys the soul.

In the tiny Banana Republic of the TRNC the only way to make material profit is to join the looters club. Turkey's occupation has reduced my community (the Turkish Cypriots) to loyal sycophants, servants and agents. Some know very well what they are doing but others pretend they are unaware that they are being used for Turkey's benefit only. Despite the world calling Sunday's election a T/C election, those who participate in this game created by Ankara never have a chance to represent their own peoples interest.

UBP has traditionally been the party closest to the occupiers since its creation. They are so close that they refer to Turkey as the 'Motherland" and to themselves as the "Babyhomeland" even though they are belittling and patronizing themselves. They call it 'necessity' or 'mutual' benefits or ' aligned interests' but really they are just admitting to serving somebody else's interests other than their own people.

Turkey designed the TRNC in such a way where Ankara pays for everything and therefore controls everything. Meanwhile it tells the T/Cs that nobody cares about them except Turkey, the G/Cs hate them and want to kill them and therefore they ought to show their 'gratitude' more. Meanwhile Turkey ships in more people of its own to assimilate the T/Cs and dilute their votes and democratic rights....

To change the agenda so nobody would notice what is happening beneath their very noses, T/Cs are led to believe that the EU owes them promises and that they live under 'embargoes,' when in actual fact, this deception manipulates people's emotions causing anger and resentment in the community. The fact is the EU made no promises at all and has helped the T/C community as much as it can.
It gave the T/C aid, has offered a direct trade proposal which the T/C leadership turned down and has enabled Green Line Trade. The G/Cs that we are taught to hate who control the Roc Govt pay for T/Cs to have free healthcare even though G/Cs pay for it, they offer them subsidies for schooling and with RoC passports T/Cs can travel, study and work anywhere they want in the EU.

Still some T/C still believe the TRNC is right to exist that might is right and so is theft. They believe the TRNC will be recognised even though in 34 years, Turkey has done very little to promote the TRNC internationally. Turkey clearly prefers an uncommercialised backwater that is dependent on Ankara - its easier to control.

Control is the name of the game. Even CTP, a party democratically supported by T/Cs who marched on the streets in thousands in 2003 and 2004 to oppose Denktash later became another UBP, fighting in a battle of loyalty. In the end nothing separated either party.
In the TRNC left means right, right means left, political parties are so embroiled in sycophancy, corruption and dodgy dealings to survive that political ideology and conviction means nothing. Politicians like most become unprincipled and lack integrity. Like politics, democracy too has become nullified in the TRNC and so the majority of T/C do not believe in the democratic process anymore.

The vales T/Cs are being taught in this TRNC is that in order to get on in life you have to join the looters club, have to be Turkeys man and keep your mouth shut... If you want to eat and feed your family, you had to obey and forget thinking for yourself, and your conscience. I am told the media too are regularly visited by the military too to make sure articles keep to the line wanted by the Turkish 'embassy' and military command in Nicosia.

Elections like those on Sunday are controlled at every level by Turkey. All aspects of life are or can be easily controlled by Turkey. The will of the people, the will of the T/Cs means nothing. The effects of this on our community is greater than you can imagine, it reduces self-confidence, self-worth, belief in democracy and human rights, and turns us into insecure servants or servants of servants, trying to survive.


So, u call upon the earth forces; bosses of globalization to rescue TCs? Ömer, I wonder when u will realize that everything revolves around the interests of the bosses of globalization?

U have a narrow point of view that does not let u evaluate events factually. U simply put all the blame on Turkey and her TC supporters. Fair? What do u want Ömer? 3 Rs and a minority status for TCs? If this is what u want, make it clear, plz. I have respect to everyone's opinions.


I do not want T/Cs to be a protected minority in a Greek state - that goes against peace and all I stand for.

I want a reunified Cyprus for all Cypriots to enjoy with equality between communities, the rule of law, democracy, human rights for all and people having hope and aspirations for their lives. I reject the enslaving of a community under occupation.

The TRNC has given all T/Cs and the Cyprus question all Cypriots a very negative outlook on life, it destroys souls, but I want you to free yourself and to free others from the open prison that is the TRNC. I want you to believe in a Cyprus of freedom, human rights, rule of law and democracy Insan.

I want to appeal to the Insanlik (Humanity) inside you Insan, so that your username really has a meaning, but you have to believe in this by rejecting what you have been taught is unavoidable. You do have a choice...



Ömer, I agree with u that if TCs were governed better by wise, intelligent and skillful politicians, there would be far better life conditions in TRNC. I'm too not satisfied and happy with the social order, economic conditions, our governors, media, teachers, education system and intellectuals but this is what TCs r capable and able to do. This is a fact. It has nothing to do with Turkey and Turkish troops stationed in Cyprus.

We need advance guards in every field of our lives but we don't have. Most of the TCs like u, prefered to emigrate and live an easy, better life in other countries instead staying in Cyprus and struggling to advance our community to a better place. Now u blame the TCs who remained in Cyprus or had to stay in Cyprus bcz they neither economically nor culturally could afford to emigrate somewhere else?



Insan says: Most of the TCs like u, prefered to emigrate and live an easy, better life in other countries instead staying in Cyprus and struggling to advance our community to a better place

I find that statement highly offensive.. Many TC arrived on these foreign shore having been made refugees, directly or indirectly by the Cyprus Prob. Even after 1974, many refugees had nowhere else to go but near their relatives who lived abroad. What was expected of them: join the looters club and become 'GANİMETCİ?'


So, Deniz; u accuse all TCs who remained in Cyprus being "looters" or forced for "looting"? Make it clear please.



There are genuine refugees and not so genuine ganimetci. Your statement needs to be more understanding, as a result you get sweeping statements like I have made. It does not help, does it?.
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Re: TRNC: Destroying the Soul of A Community

Postby Kikapu » Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:16 pm

Omer Seyhan wrote:As a Turkish Cypriot but foremost a Cypriot I denounce the TRNC everyday and I want to share with the world why.

The TRNC is destroying the T/C community - it will not only assimilate us but will ruin our community psychologically because of the circumstances in which they live. Living under a foreign occupation and trying to survive makes people do terrible things and destroys the soul.

In the tiny Banana Republic of the TRNC the only way to make material profit is to join the looters club. Turkey's occupation has reduced my community (the Turkish Cypriots) to loyal sycophants, servants and agents. Some know very well what they are doing but others pretend they are unaware that they are being used for Turkey's benefit only. Despite the world calling Sunday's election a T/C election, those who participate in this game created by Ankara never have a chance to represent their own peoples interest.

UBP has traditionally been the party closest to the occupiers since its creation. They are so close that they refer to Turkey as the 'Motherland" and to themselves as the "Babyhomeland" even though they are belittling and patronizing themselves. They call it 'necessity' or 'mutual' benefits or ' aligned interests' but really they are just admitting to serving somebody else's interests other than their own people.

Turkey designed the TRNC in such a way where Ankara pays for everything and therefore controls everything. Meanwhile it tells the T/Cs that nobody cares about them except Turkey, the G/Cs hate them and want to kill them and therefore they ought to show their 'gratitude' more. Meanwhile Turkey ships in more people of its own to assimilate the T/Cs and dilute their votes and democratic rights....

To change the agenda so nobody would notice what is happening beneath their very noses, T/Cs are led to believe that the EU owes them promises and that they live under 'embargoes,' when in actual fact, this deception manipulates people's emotions causing anger and resentment in the community. The fact is the EU made no promises at all and has helped the T/C community as much as it can.
It gave the T/C aid, has offered a direct trade proposal which the T/C leadership turned down and has enabled Green Line Trade. The G/Cs that we are taught to hate who control the Roc Govt pay for T/Cs to have free healthcare even though G/Cs pay for it, they offer them subsidies for schooling and with RoC passports T/Cs can travel, study and work anywhere they want in the EU.

Still some T/C still believe the TRNC is right to exist that might is right and so is theft. They believe the TRNC will be recognised even though in 34 years, Turkey has done very little to promote the TRNC internationally. Turkey clearly prefers an uncommercialised backwater that is dependent on Ankara - its easier to control.

Control is the name of the game. Even CTP, a party democratically supported by T/Cs who marched on the streets in thousands in 2003 and 2004 to oppose Denktash later became another UBP, fighting in a battle of loyalty. Some CTP even helped Turkey silence their own people. In the end nothing separated either party.
In the TRNC left means right, right means left, political parties are so embroiled in sycophancy, corruption and dodgy dealings to survive that political ideology and conviction means nothing. Politicians like most become unprincipled and lack integrity. Like politics, democracy too has become nullified in the TRNC and so the majority of T/C do not believe in the democratic process anymore.

The vales T/Cs are being taught in this TRNC is that in order to get on in life you have to join the looters club, have to be Turkeys man and keep your mouth shut... If you want to eat and feed your family, you had to obey and forget thinking for yourself, and your conscience. I am told the media too are regularly visited by the military too to make sure articles keep to the line wanted by the Turkish 'embassy' and military command in Nicosia.

Elections like those on Sunday are controlled at every level by Turkey. All aspects of life are or can be easily controlled by Turkey. The will of the people, the will of the T/Cs means nothing. The effects of this on our community is greater than you can imagine, it reduces self-confidence, self-worth, belief in democracy and human rights, and turns us into insecure servants or servants of servants, trying to survive.


Omer Seyhan,

As a TC, I share your above views. You have spelled out what I write in many of my posts regarding the "trnc", no matter how painful they may be for me to do so, I can't help but use such terms , "Corrupted Society" "Animal Farm" "Sins of Haram" to name a few, because all these terms are applicable to the north which you have very accurately spelled them out.!
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Postby The Cypriot » Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:19 pm

turkkan wrote:if thats the case why does BBC only invite susan nuri, one of the editors of londra gazette to their talk shows concerning turkey


Perhaps when they talk about Cyprus they'll invite someone from Toplum.

You seem to know a lot about Londra. What are you their advertising manager?

turkkan wrote:If what your saying is true, why does MI5 only advertise for recruitment positions in londra gazette and not toplum postasi? Post after post you show you know little about our community.


I admit I am not an expert in where the MI5 chooses to place their advertising. Perhaps they advertise with Londra because you sold them the space.

turkkan wrote:Obviously they dont. But diplomatically the chances of you getting any land back or any solution being signed also look very grim. So its not really as if you are winning at our expense.


This mentality is getting you nowhere. Cypriots, however much they yearn to have access to their homes and to reunify their country, have simply got on with their lives. They are in the EU and have access to all the associated rights and opportunities. They endure. A solution may be grim because of your attitude, but they can and do endure and are not living in limbo, under foreign military rule, as Cypriots are in the north.

They are not winning at your expense. Why would they want to? And why do you want to win at their expense?
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Re: TRNC: Destroying the Soul of A Community

Postby insan » Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:20 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
insan wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
insan wrote:
Omer Seyhan wrote:
insan wrote:
Omer Seyhan wrote:As a Turkish Cypriot but foremost a Cypriot I denounce the TRNC everyday and I want to share with the world why.

The TRNC is destroying the T/C community - it will not only assimilate us but will ruin our community psychologically because of the circumstances in which they live. Living under a foreign occupation and trying to survive makes people do terrible things and destroys the soul.

In the tiny Banana Republic of the TRNC the only way to make material profit is to join the looters club. Turkey's occupation has reduced my community (the Turkish Cypriots) to loyal sycophants, servants and agents. Some know very well what they are doing but others pretend they are unaware that they are being used for Turkey's benefit only. Despite the world calling Sunday's election a T/C election, those who participate in this game created by Ankara never have a chance to represent their own peoples interest.

UBP has traditionally been the party closest to the occupiers since its creation. They are so close that they refer to Turkey as the 'Motherland" and to themselves as the "Babyhomeland" even though they are belittling and patronizing themselves. They call it 'necessity' or 'mutual' benefits or ' aligned interests' but really they are just admitting to serving somebody else's interests other than their own people.

Turkey designed the TRNC in such a way where Ankara pays for everything and therefore controls everything. Meanwhile it tells the T/Cs that nobody cares about them except Turkey, the G/Cs hate them and want to kill them and therefore they ought to show their 'gratitude' more. Meanwhile Turkey ships in more people of its own to assimilate the T/Cs and dilute their votes and democratic rights....

To change the agenda so nobody would notice what is happening beneath their very noses, T/Cs are led to believe that the EU owes them promises and that they live under 'embargoes,' when in actual fact, this deception manipulates people's emotions causing anger and resentment in the community. The fact is the EU made no promises at all and has helped the T/C community as much as it can.
It gave the T/C aid, has offered a direct trade proposal which the T/C leadership turned down and has enabled Green Line Trade. The G/Cs that we are taught to hate who control the Roc Govt pay for T/Cs to have free healthcare even though G/Cs pay for it, they offer them subsidies for schooling and with RoC passports T/Cs can travel, study and work anywhere they want in the EU.

Still some T/C still believe the TRNC is right to exist that might is right and so is theft. They believe the TRNC will be recognised even though in 34 years, Turkey has done very little to promote the TRNC internationally. Turkey clearly prefers an uncommercialised backwater that is dependent on Ankara - its easier to control.

Control is the name of the game. Even CTP, a party democratically supported by T/Cs who marched on the streets in thousands in 2003 and 2004 to oppose Denktash later became another UBP, fighting in a battle of loyalty. In the end nothing separated either party.
In the TRNC left means right, right means left, political parties are so embroiled in sycophancy, corruption and dodgy dealings to survive that political ideology and conviction means nothing. Politicians like most become unprincipled and lack integrity. Like politics, democracy too has become nullified in the TRNC and so the majority of T/C do not believe in the democratic process anymore.

The vales T/Cs are being taught in this TRNC is that in order to get on in life you have to join the looters club, have to be Turkeys man and keep your mouth shut... If you want to eat and feed your family, you had to obey and forget thinking for yourself, and your conscience. I am told the media too are regularly visited by the military too to make sure articles keep to the line wanted by the Turkish 'embassy' and military command in Nicosia.

Elections like those on Sunday are controlled at every level by Turkey. All aspects of life are or can be easily controlled by Turkey. The will of the people, the will of the T/Cs means nothing. The effects of this on our community is greater than you can imagine, it reduces self-confidence, self-worth, belief in democracy and human rights, and turns us into insecure servants or servants of servants, trying to survive.


So, u call upon the earth forces; bosses of globalization to rescue TCs? Ömer, I wonder when u will realize that everything revolves around the interests of the bosses of globalization?

U have a narrow point of view that does not let u evaluate events factually. U simply put all the blame on Turkey and her TC supporters. Fair? What do u want Ömer? 3 Rs and a minority status for TCs? If this is what u want, make it clear, plz. I have respect to everyone's opinions.


I do not want T/Cs to be a protected minority in a Greek state - that goes against peace and all I stand for.

I want a reunified Cyprus for all Cypriots to enjoy with equality between communities, the rule of law, democracy, human rights for all and people having hope and aspirations for their lives. I reject the enslaving of a community under occupation.

The TRNC has given all T/Cs and the Cyprus question all Cypriots a very negative outlook on life, it destroys souls, but I want you to free yourself and to free others from the open prison that is the TRNC. I want you to believe in a Cyprus of freedom, human rights, rule of law and democracy Insan.

I want to appeal to the Insanlik (Humanity) inside you Insan, so that your username really has a meaning, but you have to believe in this by rejecting what you have been taught is unavoidable. You do have a choice...



Ömer, I agree with u that if TCs were governed better by wise, intelligent and skillful politicians, there would be far better life conditions in TRNC. I'm too not satisfied and happy with the social order, economic conditions, our governors, media, teachers, education system and intellectuals but this is what TCs r capable and able to do. This is a fact. It has nothing to do with Turkey and Turkish troops stationed in Cyprus.

We need advance guards in every field of our lives but we don't have. Most of the TCs like u, prefered to emigrate and live an easy, better life in other countries instead staying in Cyprus and struggling to advance our community to a better place. Now u blame the TCs who remained in Cyprus or had to stay in Cyprus bcz they neither economically nor culturally could afford to emigrate somewhere else?



Insan says: Most of the TCs like u, prefered to emigrate and live an easy, better life in other countries instead staying in Cyprus and struggling to advance our community to a better place

I find that statement highly offensive.. Many TC arrived on these foreign shore having been made refugees, directly or indirectly by the Cyprus Prob. Even after 1974, many refugees had nowhere else to go but near their relatives who lived abroad. What was expected of them: join the looters club and become 'GANİMETCİ?'


So, Deniz; u accuse all TCs who remained in Cyprus being "looters" or forced for "looting"? Make it clear please.



There are genuine refugees and not so genuine ganimetci. Your statement needs to be more understanding, as a result you get sweeping statements like I have made. It does not help, does it?.


But I said "most of the TCs like u..." to Ömer. It does not sound like a sweeping statement to my mind. :wink:
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Postby The Cypriot » Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:25 pm

turkkan wrote:Any nastiness i exhibit is in response to sarcasm or someone who is not turkish cypriot trying to speak on all our behalf.



I'm speaking on behalf of human rights and justice. I speak on behalf of Kutlu Adali. Why don't you?

turkkan wrote:Otherwise you will find i will speak to you in a blunt but respectful manner.


I am glad to hear it. You will get much further with me and others whose cooperation and support you may need for securing justice for Cypriot people in the north.

turkkan wrote:Second, there are plenty of people on this forum who refer to turks as gypsies or animals yet have no action taken against them, if your going to speak about objectionable content start with your own lot and then get to me.



I have challenged them regularly - and quite aggressively - just recently.
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Re: TRNC: Destroying the Soul of A Community

Postby denizaksulu » Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:27 pm

insan wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
insan wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
insan wrote:
Omer Seyhan wrote:
insan wrote:
Omer Seyhan wrote:As a Turkish Cypriot but foremost a Cypriot I denounce the TRNC everyday and I want to share with the world why.

The TRNC is destroying the T/C community - it will not only assimilate us but will ruin our community psychologically because of the circumstances in which they live. Living under a foreign occupation and trying to survive makes people do terrible things and destroys the soul.

In the tiny Banana Republic of the TRNC the only way to make material profit is to join the looters club. Turkey's occupation has reduced my community (the Turkish Cypriots) to loyal sycophants, servants and agents. Some know very well what they are doing but others pretend they are unaware that they are being used for Turkey's benefit only. Despite the world calling Sunday's election a T/C election, those who participate in this game created by Ankara never have a chance to represent their own peoples interest.

UBP has traditionally been the party closest to the occupiers since its creation. They are so close that they refer to Turkey as the 'Motherland" and to themselves as the "Babyhomeland" even though they are belittling and patronizing themselves. They call it 'necessity' or 'mutual' benefits or ' aligned interests' but really they are just admitting to serving somebody else's interests other than their own people.

Turkey designed the TRNC in such a way where Ankara pays for everything and therefore controls everything. Meanwhile it tells the T/Cs that nobody cares about them except Turkey, the G/Cs hate them and want to kill them and therefore they ought to show their 'gratitude' more. Meanwhile Turkey ships in more people of its own to assimilate the T/Cs and dilute their votes and democratic rights....

To change the agenda so nobody would notice what is happening beneath their very noses, T/Cs are led to believe that the EU owes them promises and that they live under 'embargoes,' when in actual fact, this deception manipulates people's emotions causing anger and resentment in the community. The fact is the EU made no promises at all and has helped the T/C community as much as it can.
It gave the T/C aid, has offered a direct trade proposal which the T/C leadership turned down and has enabled Green Line Trade. The G/Cs that we are taught to hate who control the Roc Govt pay for T/Cs to have free healthcare even though G/Cs pay for it, they offer them subsidies for schooling and with RoC passports T/Cs can travel, study and work anywhere they want in the EU.

Still some T/C still believe the TRNC is right to exist that might is right and so is theft. They believe the TRNC will be recognised even though in 34 years, Turkey has done very little to promote the TRNC internationally. Turkey clearly prefers an uncommercialised backwater that is dependent on Ankara - its easier to control.

Control is the name of the game. Even CTP, a party democratically supported by T/Cs who marched on the streets in thousands in 2003 and 2004 to oppose Denktash later became another UBP, fighting in a battle of loyalty. In the end nothing separated either party.
In the TRNC left means right, right means left, political parties are so embroiled in sycophancy, corruption and dodgy dealings to survive that political ideology and conviction means nothing. Politicians like most become unprincipled and lack integrity. Like politics, democracy too has become nullified in the TRNC and so the majority of T/C do not believe in the democratic process anymore.

The vales T/Cs are being taught in this TRNC is that in order to get on in life you have to join the looters club, have to be Turkeys man and keep your mouth shut... If you want to eat and feed your family, you had to obey and forget thinking for yourself, and your conscience. I am told the media too are regularly visited by the military too to make sure articles keep to the line wanted by the Turkish 'embassy' and military command in Nicosia.

Elections like those on Sunday are controlled at every level by Turkey. All aspects of life are or can be easily controlled by Turkey. The will of the people, the will of the T/Cs means nothing. The effects of this on our community is greater than you can imagine, it reduces self-confidence, self-worth, belief in democracy and human rights, and turns us into insecure servants or servants of servants, trying to survive.


So, u call upon the earth forces; bosses of globalization to rescue TCs? Ömer, I wonder when u will realize that everything revolves around the interests of the bosses of globalization?

U have a narrow point of view that does not let u evaluate events factually. U simply put all the blame on Turkey and her TC supporters. Fair? What do u want Ömer? 3 Rs and a minority status for TCs? If this is what u want, make it clear, plz. I have respect to everyone's opinions.


I do not want T/Cs to be a protected minority in a Greek state - that goes against peace and all I stand for.

I want a reunified Cyprus for all Cypriots to enjoy with equality between communities, the rule of law, democracy, human rights for all and people having hope and aspirations for their lives. I reject the enslaving of a community under occupation.

The TRNC has given all T/Cs and the Cyprus question all Cypriots a very negative outlook on life, it destroys souls, but I want you to free yourself and to free others from the open prison that is the TRNC. I want you to believe in a Cyprus of freedom, human rights, rule of law and democracy Insan.

I want to appeal to the Insanlik (Humanity) inside you Insan, so that your username really has a meaning, but you have to believe in this by rejecting what you have been taught is unavoidable. You do have a choice...



Ömer, I agree with u that if TCs were governed better by wise, intelligent and skillful politicians, there would be far better life conditions in TRNC. I'm too not satisfied and happy with the social order, economic conditions, our governors, media, teachers, education system and intellectuals but this is what TCs r capable and able to do. This is a fact. It has nothing to do with Turkey and Turkish troops stationed in Cyprus.

We need advance guards in every field of our lives but we don't have. Most of the TCs like u, prefered to emigrate and live an easy, better life in other countries instead staying in Cyprus and struggling to advance our community to a better place. Now u blame the TCs who remained in Cyprus or had to stay in Cyprus bcz they neither economically nor culturally could afford to emigrate somewhere else?



Insan says: Most of the TCs like u, prefered to emigrate and live an easy, better life in other countries instead staying in Cyprus and struggling to advance our community to a better place

I find that statement highly offensive.. Many TC arrived on these foreign shore having been made refugees, directly or indirectly by the Cyprus Prob. Even after 1974, many refugees had nowhere else to go but near their relatives who lived abroad. What was expected of them: join the looters club and become 'GANİMETCİ?'


So, Deniz; u accuse all TCs who remained in Cyprus being "looters" or forced for "looting"? Make it clear please.



There are genuine refugees and not so genuine ganimetci. Your statement needs to be more understanding, as a result you get sweeping statements like I have made. It does not help, does it?.


But I said "most of the TCs like u..." to Ömer. It does not sound like a sweeping statement to my mind. :wink:



...........as long as you dont think we love this country over Cyprus.
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Postby The Cypriot » Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:37 pm

insan wrote:The Cypriot, everyone in North harshly critisize both the TRNC governments and Turkish governments regarding their "wrongs", "ineffective policies" towards the solution of Cyprus problem one way or another. We r on a "hotspot"; hotter than the "hotspot" of South Cyprus. There r various political interest groups both in the North and outside North that works, play politics, exert to create political impressions etc in favour of their self-interests. All outside self-interest groups have local collaboraters and all local self-interest groups have outside backers. Those tiny TC socialists, too.

For more than 50 years, we have been living in an environment where political uncertainity sways the activities of all interest groups, according to changing political circumstances. The immature and slow progression of our democracy is the direct consequence of being on a "hotspot" like Northern Cyprus.

In such an environment, what majority of ordinary people of North wish is ataraxic and prosperity. What I wish is just an idyll in Cyprus or somewhere else suitable for my dreams.


I appreciate this, insan.
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Postby halil » Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:37 pm

aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh İnsan ahhhhhhhhhhh i will be in your place in 45 munites mate ... u are waisting your time mate . they never realise that we have such a brave articles in Yenidüzen Newspaper everyday ...like Sevgül uludağ writings .
keçi goyuna güldü (goat laughs to ship ) Like how they complains about Cyprus mail , how they complains anybody writes anything positeve about TC's or solution agreements in Cyprus about BBF basis ....ya man Keçi güldü goyuna (goat laughs to ship )

If Deniz thinks we are ganimetci let him to think about it . for the fake of Cypriotism we can not put our pants down gardash .let them to talk .... they are anly few dosens . Sabır ...sabır (patient ...patient ) at the end patlarsın (you can blow up ) these words might hurt someones but enough is enough .... we all know what we want we are the people who lives in this island .davulun sesi uzakdan güzel gelir (The sound of the drum comes nice ! ) anlayan anlar ...who ever wants to understand ....will understand !
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:41 pm

halil wrote:aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh İnsan ahhhhhhhhhhh i will be in your place in 45 munites mate ... u are waisting your time mate . they never realise that we have such a brave articles in Yenidüzen Newspaper everyday ...like Sevgül uludağ writings .
keçi goyuna güldü (goat laughs to ship ) Like how they complains about Cyprus mail , how they complains anybody writes anything positeve about TC's or solution agreements in Cyprus about BBF basis ....ya man Keçi güldü goyuna (goat laughs to ship )

If Deniz thinks we are ganimetci let him to think about it . for the fake of Cypriotism we can not put our pants down gardash .let them to talk .... they are anly few dosens . Sabır ...sabır (patient ...patient ) at the end patlarsın (you can blow up ) these words might hurt someones but enough is enough .... we all know what we want we are the people who lives in this island .davulun sesi uzakdan güzel gelir (The sound of the drum comes nice ! ) anlayan anlar ...who ever wants to understand ....will understand !



Thank you Halil for reading and not understanding.
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