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[Omer Seyhan]

Toplum Postasi is highly respected in UK government/diplomatic circles that you would need to be wooing to win your "two-state-solution".

if thats the case why does BBC only invite susan nuri, one of the editors of londra gazette to their talk shows concerning turkey and no one from toplum postasi. If what your saying is true, why does MI5 only advertise for recruitment positions in londra gazette and not toplum postasi? Post after post you show you know little about our community.

Diplomatically, things don't look good in the north. Not good at all.

Obviously they dont. But diplomatically the chances of you getting any land back or any solution being signed also look very grim. So its not really as if you are winning at our expense.

MI5 and Londra Gazete. Wow, this says it all.

[miltiades]

The Greeks , mostly ill mannered uncouth utterly unsophisticated looked down on the Cypriots !!!
I have said it before , many times in fact . When a few years back they were wiping the rears with newspapers , we in Cyprus were using bidets !!
When we in Cyprus were demanding ENOSIS with the the Greeks , it should have been the other way around they demanding ENOSIS with us.
I make no bones about it , we have nothing at all to learn from these microastous , nose pickers , street spitters untrustworthy selfish uncaring egoistic people.

O has told us what the Greeks thought of us and still do the bloody cowards .

Steady, milti... while I fully appreciate Cypriot resentment towards Greece, borne clearly out of a deep resentment towards the regime at the time's role in bringing about the disaster that has befallen our homeland, we must try to move on.

Cyprus paid the ultimate price so that democracy could be restored to the cradle of democracy. And as a modern democracy and supportive EU partner, Greece had and continues to have a strategic role to play in Cyprus's liberation. As does Britain.

It does not serve the Cypriot cause to keep bearing either country a grudge for past misdemeanours. Both are acutely aware of their wrong doings; both are acutely aware of their continued legal, moral and political obligations.

Our relations with both countries need to be cultivated for the sake of the national interest.

My dear friend , you have to lift the carpet up in order to do a proper clean-up. Oracles sentence says it all ,her mother is Greek and so are at least half of her relatives , this is what she said : """don't know any mainland Greeks who have ever wanted Enosis with Cyprus, myself and all my relatives included. (The reasons are not necessarily complimentary)

The emphasis here is (The reasons are not necessarily complimentary)
I spent a lot of time in Greece and I got to know the Greeks pretty much as much as I know the Brits. I will tell you one thing , to this day they consider the Cypriots a bloody pain in their arse and if anyone believes that the ordinary Greek gives as hit about the Cypriot Donkeys , as these peasants call us , then they are dreaming.As for ENOSIS ,I would rather have my dick removed !!
I will tell you another thing , dont ever beleive or trust a Greek politician , its all talk and nothing else , when it comes to feathering their own nest they are worst than the Brits.

[insan]

The Greeks , mostly ill mannered uncouth utterly unsophisticated looked down on the Cypriots !!!
I have said it before , many times in fact . When a few years back they were wiping the rears with newspapers , we in Cyprus were using bidets !!
When we in Cyprus were demanding ENOSIS with the the Greeks , it should have been the other way around they demanding ENOSIS with us.
I make no bones about it , we have nothing at all to learn from these microastous , nose pickers , street spitters untrustworthy selfish uncaring egoistic people.

O has told us what the Greeks thought of us and still do the bloody cowards .

Steady, milti... while I fully appreciate Cypriot resentment towards Greece, borne clearly out of a deep resentment towards the regime at the time's role in bringing about the disaster that has befallen our homeland, we must try to move on.

Cyprus paid the ultimate price so that democracy could be restored to the cradle of democracy. And as a modern democracy and supportive EU partner, Greece had and continues to have a strategic role to play in Cyprus's liberation. As does Britain.

It does not serve the Cypriot cause to keep bearing either country a grudge for past misdemeanours. Both are acutely aware of their wrong doings; both are acutely aware of their continued legal, moral and political obligations.

Our relations with both countries need to be cultivated for the sake of the national interest.

My dear friend , you have to lift the carpet up in order to do a proper clean-up. Oracles sentence says it all ,her mother is Greek and so are at least half of her relatives , this is what she said : """don't know any mainland Greeks who have ever wanted Enosis with Cyprus, myself and all my relatives included. (The reasons are not necessarily complimentary)

The emphasis here is (The reasons are not necessarily complimentary)
I spent a lot of time in Greece and I got to know the Greeks pretty much as much as I know the Brits. I will tell you one thing , to this day they consider the Cypriots a bloody pain in their arse and if anyone believes that the ordinary Greek gives as hit about the Cypriot Donkeys , as these peasants call us , then they are dreaming.As for ENOSIS ,I would rather have my dick removed !!
I will tell you another thing , dont ever beleive or trust a Greek politician , its all talk and nothing else , when it comes to feathering their own nest they are worst than the Brits.

Same goes with Turks of Turkey. There were so many illiterate, ordinary Turks asking us what language we speak in Cyprus. Even there r some asking us whether we r Turk or Rum. Most of them don't know which currency we use. However those r ordinary Turks like ordinary people of other countries. The matter is what organized political interest groups think and plan regarding Cyprus.

[Oracle]

Oracles sentence says it all ,her mother is Greek and so are at least half of her relatives , this is what she said : """don't know any mainland Greeks who have ever wanted Enosis with Cyprus, myself and all my relatives included. (The reasons are not necessarily complimentary)

The emphasis here is (The reasons are not necessarily complimentary)

You gossiping housewife ... the emphasis for such an important debating forum would have been the fact that Greeks do not want Enosis..

But that is not enough for you...

You want to be loved and appreciated for the Great Stroumbian and Turkophile that you portray yourself to be! Well that does not pass muster with Greeks!

... As for ENOSIS ,I would rather have my dick removed !!

Interesting word association

... they are worst than the Brits.

Whatever do you mean Milty?

**** Answers without spitting, much appreciated!

[boomerang]

In those heady (for the Turks) days of 1974 and the headlong chauvinist charge that followed, the Tc side overlooked a fact- that in the days following the coup the GCs won their independence from Greece.

The clash between GCs and the mainland led coupists was the MAJOR event of July 1974. But the propaganda and the brainwashing the TCs underwent since then has not allowed them to understand this historical fact. In effect we could say that the Cypriot state was born on July 15 1974. The ensuing years, during which the GCs managed to hold the state together, preventing dissolution, mass emigration and economic collapse showed how quickly the GC community had matured.

The proof of the maturity came in 2004 when Cyprus was accepted in the EU having succesfully passed all tests and fulfilling all its obligations in record time.

Totally corrupted by Turkish cynicism the TC could not see the magnitute of the accomplishment of their fellow Cypriots for what it is- the first effective ssertion of Cypriotness in modern history. Stuck in the cynical Turkish world view the TCs will repeat mantras like "you were helped by...... Greece, USA, UK, fill in the blank with your choice. Nobody helps anyone enter the EU. A nation either passes the tests or it does not. Cyprus passed.

And now, instead of claiming their freedom, the TCs are still ruminating whether it would be better to be stuck in a Turkish controlled chamber of extinction or join a modern state as political equals. A state to the creation of which they contributed almost nothing, and will pay nothing for what they get.

VP above asks what is the alternative. This is the atlernative, to rejoin Cyprus. The other alternative is already half done, the election results should be a very loud and clear message. For every TC that voted there were TWO non Cypriot voters. How will the ratio be in the next election?

In 15-20 years time, the so-called Europeanization will erase the last traces of Cypriotness on this island. Overwhelming majority of Cyprus youth is under heavy influence of Europeanized life style. Most of them don't care abt good old family values anymore.

After 15-20 years being united or sepertated will loose it's meaning. Cyprus will become the second home of rich people all around the world. The richests of the world will play tricky political games on Cypriots in order to make them give consent for the sale of their properties to those rich non-Cypriots. The degenerated life style and various criminal activities will lead the emigration of middle class Cypriots.

It is obvious to me that GC community was deceived one more time by their leadership, Greek leadership and some political interest groups of Europe for the sake of owning the whole of Cyprus(The so-called national cause).

I hope TCs in North realize this fact and put their lives and affairs in a good order for a better future in their homeland.

Firstly titty man you always asked for an explanation of what is Cypriotism...Now you seemed to know exactly what it means...care to explain you new found knowledge on the subject?

Secondly, the majority of cavemen embraced progress and some did not...you reflest the latter titty man...

It's not a newly founded meaning, the lamer boomer. I've always told that Cypriot r the people who were born and lived all or most of their lives in Cyprus. As for the Cypriotness; it's the uniqe traditional values we have inherited form our Cyprus born ancestors and practiced in our daily lives. Lamers like u, will never be able to comprehend and understand what's what. Wise men need to repeat everything for at least a several hundred times to lamers to make them understand.

Cypriotism in Cyprus is just an utopic dream. It could only be obtained by natural evolution. One of the most important, positive triggering element of Cypriotism is more Cypriots Bananiot alike and less "Cypriots" Paphitis, GR, Oracle, BoomDumbAzzy, Jerry, Piratis, TPap, Makarios and Chris alike. The other most important triggering effect for Cypriotism could be strong economic, cultural and military alliances/ties between Turkey and Greece.

I didn't vote btw and i won't vote. First of all, imo; we should discuss the obstacles in fron of Cypriotism. There must be a lot of common grounds of Cypriots. Let's start with our national days.

1- EOKA day or TMT day?

2- Who r our common national Cypriot heroes? Makarios? Kuchuk? TPap?Denktash? Klerides?

3- Or don't we supposed to be a nation of Cypriots need national days?

4- What common grounds we have? History? Language? Religion?

No, under current circumstances. Yes, if one day we need a nation building process. U can't get rid of ur nationality just by denouncing it. As I previously mentioned it could only be obtained by natural evolution and it depends on positive or negative effect of some important internal/external elements.

It also depends what the qualifications needed to be a Cypriot. I hereby am asking to GR or Paphitis to tell me the qualifications of being just a Cypriot. It seems that being a Cypriot is something like completely denouncing our past. On which values we would build our future? Which parts of our history must be skipped? More than Bafidi, GR has a lot to answer... GR, who r ur national heroes? Some Choirokitians? Or we don't need any national heroes and national days? Just saying "I'm a Cypriot." is sufficient to be considered as a Cypriot?

you seemed to be one hell of a confused puppy titty man when it comes to Cypriotism...

[insan]

In those heady (for the Turks) days of 1974 and the headlong chauvinist charge that followed, the Tc side overlooked a fact- that in the days following the coup the GCs won their independence from Greece.

The clash between GCs and the mainland led coupists was the MAJOR event of July 1974. But the propaganda and the brainwashing the TCs underwent since then has not allowed them to understand this historical fact. In effect we could say that the Cypriot state was born on July 15 1974. The ensuing years, during which the GCs managed to hold the state together, preventing dissolution, mass emigration and economic collapse showed how quickly the GC community had matured.

The proof of the maturity came in 2004 when Cyprus was accepted in the EU having succesfully passed all tests and fulfilling all its obligations in record time.

Totally corrupted by Turkish cynicism the TC could not see the magnitute of the accomplishment of their fellow Cypriots for what it is- the first effective ssertion of Cypriotness in modern history. Stuck in the cynical Turkish world view the TCs will repeat mantras like "you were helped by...... Greece, USA, UK, fill in the blank with your choice. Nobody helps anyone enter the EU. A nation either passes the tests or it does not. Cyprus passed.

And now, instead of claiming their freedom, the TCs are still ruminating whether it would be better to be stuck in a Turkish controlled chamber of extinction or join a modern state as political equals. A state to the creation of which they contributed almost nothing, and will pay nothing for what they get.

VP above asks what is the alternative. This is the atlernative, to rejoin Cyprus. The other alternative is already half done, the election results should be a very loud and clear message. For every TC that voted there were TWO non Cypriot voters. How will the ratio be in the next election?

In 15-20 years time, the so-called Europeanization will erase the last traces of Cypriotness on this island. Overwhelming majority of Cyprus youth is under heavy influence of Europeanized life style. Most of them don't care abt good old family values anymore.

After 15-20 years being united or sepertated will loose it's meaning. Cyprus will become the second home of rich people all around the world. The richests of the world will play tricky political games on Cypriots in order to make them give consent for the sale of their properties to those rich non-Cypriots. The degenerated life style and various criminal activities will lead the emigration of middle class Cypriots.

It is obvious to me that GC community was deceived one more time by their leadership, Greek leadership and some political interest groups of Europe for the sake of owning the whole of Cyprus(The so-called national cause).

I hope TCs in North realize this fact and put their lives and affairs in a good order for a better future in their homeland.

Firstly titty man you always asked for an explanation of what is Cypriotism...Now you seemed to know exactly what it means...care to explain you new found knowledge on the subject?

Secondly, the majority of cavemen embraced progress and some did not...you reflest the latter titty man...

It's not a newly founded meaning, the lamer boomer. I've always told that Cypriot r the people who were born and lived all or most of their lives in Cyprus. As for the Cypriotness; it's the uniqe traditional values we have inherited form our Cyprus born ancestors and practiced in our daily lives. Lamers like u, will never be able to comprehend and understand what's what. Wise men need to repeat everything for at least a several hundred times to lamers to make them understand.

Cypriotism in Cyprus is just an utopic dream. It could only be obtained by natural evolution. One of the most important, positive triggering element of Cypriotism is more Cypriots Bananiot alike and less "Cypriots" Paphitis, GR, Oracle, BoomDumbAzzy, Jerry, Piratis, TPap, Makarios and Chris alike. The other most important triggering effect for Cypriotism could be strong economic, cultural and military alliances/ties between Turkey and Greece.

I didn't vote btw and i won't vote. First of all, imo; we should discuss the obstacles in fron of Cypriotism. There must be a lot of common grounds of Cypriots. Let's start with our national days.

1- EOKA day or TMT day?

2- Who r our common national Cypriot heroes? Makarios? Kuchuk? TPap?Denktash? Klerides?

3- Or don't we supposed to be a nation of Cypriots need national days?

4- What common grounds we have? History? Language? Religion?

No, under current circumstances. Yes, if one day we need a nation building process. U can't get rid of ur nationality just by denouncing it. As I previously mentioned it could only be obtained by natural evolution and it depends on positive or negative effect of some important internal/external elements.

It also depends what the qualifications needed to be a Cypriot. I hereby am asking to GR or Paphitis to tell me the qualifications of being just a Cypriot. It seems that being a Cypriot is something like completely denouncing our past. On which values we would build our future? Which parts of our history must be skipped? More than Bafidi, GR has a lot to answer... GR, who r ur national heroes? Some Choirokitians? Or we don't need any national heroes and national days? Just saying "I'm a Cypriot." is sufficient to be considered as a Cypriot?

you seemed to be one hell of a confused puppy titty man when it comes to Cypriotism...

Cypriotness and Cypriotism r 2 totally different conception. Whilst the first one is realted with a life style based on Cypriot traditions, latter is related with a nonsensical nationalism.

U seemed to have huge difficulties comprehending some actually simple but for a lamer like u; very complex issues.

[The Cypriot]

Greece got you into the EU, people are not stupid and know exactly how it happened, passing the test is one thing you have to get into the exam first and Greece blackmailed the EU to get you entry.

This may or may not be true. I believe Britain played a role too in securing Cyprus's entry. But it was the least Greece and Britain could do after 1974's monumental debacle.

Ask the EU if they are happy with the hot potatoe they find in their hands today?

That's what the EU was set up for. To resolve such political hot potatoes. It's precursor, the European Iron and Steel Community was set up in 1951 to prevent war ever happening again between Germany and France. It's worked.

Your maturity after 1974 came with the pumping of international funds of which you stole our share

War torn countries receive financial assistance from the international community. Stole your share? How gross. Turkey stole and annexed 37% of the island for you and you also wanted a share of the interational funds donated to support the thousands upon thousands of innocent people made homeless by her intervention?

to prompt up your economy until you got on your feat by hijacking our recognition and using as if it only yours.

Well, the brutal intervention by Turkey on your behalf clearly negated any sympathy the world may have had about the hijacking of your recognition.

I agree with you that in 1974 you really got what you want a TC free GC state run by GCs only one draw back less land.

I doubt Cyprus would have achieved what it achieved in terms of EU accession had the unhappy compromise of 1960 carried on. Neither side was mature enough to make it work.

It is this "mature" GC state you want us to see as an alternative where there is no place for us and within a very short period of time we would be diminished to the status of a minority exposed to GC administered "democracy and human rights". No thanks

If that's how you look at it there's very little Cyprus or the EU can do for you, I'm afraid. It's a shame.

it is this we will continue to fight against, the state you offer can be joined today but the majority of TCs remain in the TRNC,

I'd say as many as half are now living abroad.

ask yourself and if you get the opportunity them why? The south to us is like a foreign country where we do not felel at home and unwelcome, TCs know this is how it would be if we were to unite as the GC demand.

Offer rather than demand. Neither side of the current divide can demand anything of the other. The two have to agree any solution.

Without guarantees and safeguards to ensure our offective contribution under a BBF with polticial equality as the world now supports we are not budging.

Have you told your new leader? He's after a two state solution.

The imbalance of will of course change, the term now in the north which is being coined is NEW Generation Turkish Cypriots (those born here) will of course in time increase this is only natural and happens all over the world. I really feel GCs should be more concerned as it is these new generations of TCs who have no connections or sense of past with GCs with whom you will have to unite with, I sense that in 20 years time the tables will be reversed and GCs will be begging for partition as the population in the north will surpass yours own and the new generation TCs will demand no safeguards or guarantees for anyone and majority rule.

No one doubts that the fuckers in the north would win such a competition. And if they don't there's an endless supply of other fuckers that can be shipped over on demand to quicken the process.

And if your prognosis is correct, VP, and I've no reason to doubt it, this is when I raise my hands and say, the Cypriots may indeed never see eye to eye with the young Turks now populating the north.

You say, "partition is the only option and it's just a matter of time before we realise this fact". I say it will never be an agreed partition, and it's just a matter of time before you realise this fact.

So where does that get us? The status quo will continue ad infinitum.

These new breeds will remain outside the legitimate running of Cyprus, for the Cypriots will never agree to letting them have any say in their country.

And the north will remain unrecognised by the west in perpetuity. And, on a wider scale, Turkey will remain outside Europe with Cyprus used as the convenient excuse, to keep the "fuckers" out.

It's a tragedy really.

[miltiades]

Oracles sentence says it all ,her mother is Greek and so are at least half of her relatives , this is what she said : """don't know any mainland Greeks who have ever wanted Enosis with Cyprus, myself and all my relatives included. (The reasons are not necessarily complimentary)

The emphasis here is (The reasons are not necessarily complimentary)

You gossiping housewife ... the emphasis for such an important debating forum would have been the fact that Greeks do not want Enosis..

But that is not enough for you...

You want to be loved and appreciated for the Great Stroumbian and Turkophile that you portray yourself to be! Well that does not pass muster with Greeks!

... As for ENOSIS ,I would rather have my dick removed !!

Interesting word association

... they are worst than the Brits.

Whatever do you mean Milty?

**** Answers without spitting, much appreciated!

Let me surprise you by stating categorically how you and your Greek family view Cypriots. I have never met you and neither do I know anything about you apart from your own forum disclosures.
I bet that neither you nor your Greek family have anything whatsoever to do with ordinary Cypriots , no interaction exists or has existed between you and the ordinary Cypriot. You may have made the acquaintance of the local Doctor , perhaps the priest or the mouhtari but you most certainly would consider it demeaning to associate with an ordinary Cypriot , its part of the Greek mainland culture and you know it.
Please dont give me bullshit about your Cypriot credentials , you are a stuck up pompous two bit scientist that doesn't give two hoots about the ordinary Cypriot.
That me dear is why your views on the Cyprus political scene are so destructive . I dont think that if ever I met you I would forcibly eject saliva from my mouth , I think I might do an Onassis , another Greek peasant , and fart in your face !!

[boomerang]

In those heady (for the Turks) days of 1974 and the headlong chauvinist charge that followed, the Tc side overlooked a fact- that in the days following the coup the GCs won their independence from Greece.

The clash between GCs and the mainland led coupists was the MAJOR event of July 1974. But the propaganda and the brainwashing the TCs underwent since then has not allowed them to understand this historical fact. In effect we could say that the Cypriot state was born on July 15 1974. The ensuing years, during which the GCs managed to hold the state together, preventing dissolution, mass emigration and economic collapse showed how quickly the GC community had matured.

The proof of the maturity came in 2004 when Cyprus was accepted in the EU having succesfully passed all tests and fulfilling all its obligations in record time.

Totally corrupted by Turkish cynicism the TC could not see the magnitute of the accomplishment of their fellow Cypriots for what it is- the first effective ssertion of Cypriotness in modern history. Stuck in the cynical Turkish world view the TCs will repeat mantras like "you were helped by...... Greece, USA, UK, fill in the blank with your choice. Nobody helps anyone enter the EU. A nation either passes the tests or it does not. Cyprus passed.

And now, instead of claiming their freedom, the TCs are still ruminating whether it would be better to be stuck in a Turkish controlled chamber of extinction or join a modern state as political equals. A state to the creation of which they contributed almost nothing, and will pay nothing for what they get.

VP above asks what is the alternative. This is the atlernative, to rejoin Cyprus. The other alternative is already half done, the election results should be a very loud and clear message. For every TC that voted there were TWO non Cypriot voters. How will the ratio be in the next election?

In 15-20 years time, the so-called Europeanization will erase the last traces of Cypriotness on this island. Overwhelming majority of Cyprus youth is under heavy influence of Europeanized life style. Most of them don't care abt good old family values anymore.

After 15-20 years being united or sepertated will loose it's meaning. Cyprus will become the second home of rich people all around the world. The richests of the world will play tricky political games on Cypriots in order to make them give consent for the sale of their properties to those rich non-Cypriots. The degenerated life style and various criminal activities will lead the emigration of middle class Cypriots.

It is obvious to me that GC community was deceived one more time by their leadership, Greek leadership and some political interest groups of Europe for the sake of owning the whole of Cyprus(The so-called national cause).

I hope TCs in North realize this fact and put their lives and affairs in a good order for a better future in their homeland.

Firstly titty man you always asked for an explanation of what is Cypriotism...Now you seemed to know exactly what it means...care to explain you new found knowledge on the subject?

Secondly, the majority of cavemen embraced progress and some did not...you reflest the latter titty man...

It's not a newly founded meaning, the lamer boomer. I've always told that Cypriot r the people who were born and lived all or most of their lives in Cyprus. As for the Cypriotness; it's the uniqe traditional values we have inherited form our Cyprus born ancestors and practiced in our daily lives. Lamers like u, will never be able to comprehend and understand what's what. Wise men need to repeat everything for at least a several hundred times to lamers to make them understand.

Cypriotism in Cyprus is just an utopic dream. It could only be obtained by natural evolution. One of the most important, positive triggering element of Cypriotism is more Cypriots Bananiot alike and less "Cypriots" Paphitis, GR, Oracle, BoomDumbAzzy, Jerry, Piratis, TPap, Makarios and Chris alike. The other most important triggering effect for Cypriotism could be strong economic, cultural and military alliances/ties between Turkey and Greece.

I didn't vote btw and i won't vote. First of all, imo; we should discuss the obstacles in fron of Cypriotism. There must be a lot of common grounds of Cypriots. Let's start with our national days.

1- EOKA day or TMT day?

2- Who r our common national Cypriot heroes? Makarios? Kuchuk? TPap?Denktash? Klerides?

3- Or don't we supposed to be a nation of Cypriots need national days?

4- What common grounds we have? History? Language? Religion?

No, under current circumstances. Yes, if one day we need a nation building process. U can't get rid of ur nationality just by denouncing it. As I previously mentioned it could only be obtained by natural evolution and it depends on positive or negative effect of some important internal/external elements.

It also depends what the qualifications needed to be a Cypriot. I hereby am asking to GR or Paphitis to tell me the qualifications of being just a Cypriot. It seems that being a Cypriot is something like completely denouncing our past. On which values we would build our future? Which parts of our history must be skipped? More than Bafidi, GR has a lot to answer... GR, who r ur national heroes? Some Choirokitians? Or we don't need any national heroes and national days? Just saying "I'm a Cypriot." is sufficient to be considered as a Cypriot?

you seemed to be one hell of a confused puppy titty man when it comes to Cypriotism...

Cypriotness and Cypriotism r 2 totally different conception. Whilst the first one is realted with a life style based on Cypriot traditions, latter is related with a nonsensical nationalism.

U seemed to have huge difficulties comprehending some actually simple but for a lamer like u; very complex issues.

As I said before you are one helluva a confused puppy...

Unlike you I have evolved and do not speak with incoherent ramblings...

[Oracle]

I bet that neither you nor your Greek family have anything whatsoever to do with ordinary Cypriots , no interaction exists or has existed between you and the ordinary Cypriot.

You pseudo -Cypriot ... carry on spitting and farting about what a great Stroumbian you are whilst all the while residing amongst the Brits of Limassol ... and I'll carry on with my Cypriot cousins running our village affairs, the Co-Op for the farmers, establishing turtle sanctuaries by keeping money-hungry foreigners off my beach, rescuing snakes etc etc

You may have made the acquaintance of the local Doctor , perhaps the priest or the mouhtari but you most certainly would consider it demeaning to associate with an ordinary Cypriot , its part of the Greek mainland culture and you know it.

And earlier you were saying what peasants the Greeks were without bidets and such like modern luxuries... Hypocrite!

BTW ... the village Doctors, priest and muhtari are all cousins ...

That me dear is why your views on the Cyprus political scene are so destructive . I dont think that if ever I met you I would forcibly eject saliva from my mouth , I think I might do an Onassis , another Greek peasant , and fart in your face !!

There ... you must be more Greek than you think!