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[Oracle]

If I know our Goddess, she'd have instilled such wisdom, such pathos and such love into her child that – when fully matured – beautiful Cyprus will be strong enough finally to be liberated from bondage forever.

Let's hope our baby Cyprus has learnt well from her Greek mother who wants her to become fully independent and enjoy her freedom, without being trapped in some arranged marriage with the most unsuitable of suitors ... the Turks!

[Get Real!]

If I know our Goddess, she'd have instilled such wisdom, such pathos and such love into her child that – when fully matured – beautiful Cyprus will be strong enough finally to be liberated from bondage forever.

Let's hope our baby Cyprus has learnt well from her Greek mother who wants her to become fully independent and enjoy her freedom, without being trapped in some arranged marriage with the most unsuitable of suitors ... the Turks!

Woman, I sense you're pushing your luck tonight and I’ll probably end up letting you have it and it won’t be mythological!

[Oracle]

If I know our Goddess, she'd have instilled such wisdom, such pathos and such love into her child that – when fully matured – beautiful Cyprus will be strong enough finally to be liberated from bondage forever.

Let's hope our baby Cyprus has learnt well from her Greek mother who wants her to become fully independent and enjoy her freedom, without being trapped in some arranged marriage with the most unsuitable of suitors ... the Turks!

Woman, I sense you're pushing your luck tonight and I’ll probably end up letting you have it and it won’t be mythological!

Oops sorry! ... I thought I was talking to the lesser savage of our Choirokitian "others"

[The Cypriot]

Perhaps this Gibreon has come to realise the effectiveness of delivering a sheep-like savaging; as per the noble Geoffrey Howe's gentle yet devastatingly brutal despatching of Margaret Thatcher.

By the way, O, my mother was Cypriot not Greek.

[Oracle]

Perhaps this Gibreon has come to realise the effectiveness of delivering a sheep-like savaging; as per the noble Geoffrey Howe's gentle yet devastatingly brutal despatching of Margaret Thatcher.

By the way, O, my mother was Cypriot not Greek.

If you are Geoffrey, then perhaps GR! is your Margaret ... I will enjoy your foreplay.

BTW ... My mother is Greek ... but more Cypriot than any islander to-date

You see I was brought up to believe all people are the same ... but their ideas and conduct are what separates them. So far GR! is proving a brute savage who wants to regress Cyprus into a solitude unworthy if its EU status ... And as for you? I think you are a confused kid! You have your ideas of removing the Turks, by giving them what they want ... and I have mine ... by supporting those who deny them their demands!

But I love you both, misguided, Anglicised-Cypriots anyway.

Μολών λαβέ ....

[The Cypriot]

I think you are a confused kid!

Ouch. There's many spouting confused nonsense on this forum but find me an example of my inconsistencies and I'll happily withdraw my childishness and leave the CF to the more mature psychotics.

You have your ideas of removing the Turks, by giving them what they want ...

Utter rubbish. I am not prepared to relinquish any of Cyprus's treasures to outsiders.

and I have mine ... by supporting those who deny them their demands!

Good for them. Puff-Puff-Papho man and the ignoble lord mini-Byron certainly need the support because the unconsidered drivel they spout enables even the likes of VP to formulate respectable-sounding counter-arguments.

But I love you both, misguided, Anglicised-Cypriots anyway.

Perhaps I have been weak to allow myself to have been overly-influenced by cultural imperialism. (Although I would deny it).

But no weaker than you for having been overly-influenced by a more distant (in time) cultural imperialism. And what's more you're so taken in you're not even able to deny it.

[Nikitas]

In those heady (for the Turks) days of 1974 and the headlong chauvinist charge that followed, the Tc side overlooked a fact- that in the days following the coup the GCs won their independence from Greece.

The clash between GCs and the mainland led coupists was the MAJOR event of July 1974. But the propaganda and the brainwashing the TCs underwent since then has not allowed them to understand this historical fact. In effect we could say that the Cypriot state was born on July 15 1974. The ensuing years, during which the GCs managed to hold the state together, preventing dissolution, mass emigration and economic collapse showed how quickly the GC community had matured.

The proof of the maturity came in 2004 when Cyprus was accepted in the EU having succesfully passed all tests and fulfilling all its obligations in record time.

Totally corrupted by Turkish cynicism the TC could not see the magnitute of the accomplishment of their fellow Cypriots for what it is- the first effective ssertion of Cypriotness in modern history. Stuck in the cynical Turkish world view the TCs will repeat mantras like "you were helped by...... Greece, USA, UK, fill in the blank with your choice. Nobody helps anyone enter the EU. A nation either passes the tests or it does not. Cyprus passed.

And now, instead of claiming their freedom, the TCs are still ruminating whether it would be better to be stuck in a Turkish controlled chamber of extinction or join a modern state as political equals. A state to the creation of which they contributed almost nothing, and will pay nothing for what they get.

VP above asks what is the alternative. This is the atlernative, to rejoin Cyprus. The other alternative is already half done, the election results should be a very loud and clear message. For every TC that voted there were TWO non Cypriot voters. How will the ratio be in the next election?

[insan]

In those heady (for the Turks) days of 1974 and the headlong chauvinist charge that followed, the Tc side overlooked a fact- that in the days following the coup the GCs won their independence from Greece.

The clash between GCs and the mainland led coupists was the MAJOR event of July 1974. But the propaganda and the brainwashing the TCs underwent since then has not allowed them to understand this historical fact. In effect we could say that the Cypriot state was born on July 15 1974. The ensuing years, during which the GCs managed to hold the state together, preventing dissolution, mass emigration and economic collapse showed how quickly the GC community had matured.

The proof of the maturity came in 2004 when Cyprus was accepted in the EU having succesfully passed all tests and fulfilling all its obligations in record time.

Totally corrupted by Turkish cynicism the TC could not see the magnitute of the accomplishment of their fellow Cypriots for what it is- the first effective ssertion of Cypriotness in modern history. Stuck in the cynical Turkish world view the TCs will repeat mantras like "you were helped by...... Greece, USA, UK, fill in the blank with your choice. Nobody helps anyone enter the EU. A nation either passes the tests or it does not. Cyprus passed.

And now, instead of claiming their freedom, the TCs are still ruminating whether it would be better to be stuck in a Turkish controlled chamber of extinction or join a modern state as political equals. A state to the creation of which they contributed almost nothing, and will pay nothing for what they get.

VP above asks what is the alternative. This is the atlernative, to rejoin Cyprus. The other alternative is already half done, the election results should be a very loud and clear message. For every TC that voted there were TWO non Cypriot voters. How will the ratio be in the next election?

In 15-20 years time, the so-called Europeanization will erase the last traces of Cypriotness on this island. Overwhelming majority of Cyprus youth is under heavy influence of Europeanized life style. Most of them don't care abt good old family values anymore.

After 15-20 years being united or sepertated will loose it's meaning. Cyprus will become the second home of rich people all around the world. The richests of the world will play tricky political games on Cypriots in order to make them give consent for the sale of their properties to those rich non-Cypriots. The degenerated life style and various criminal activities will lead the emigration of middle class Cypriots.

It is obvious to me that GC community was deceived one more time by their leadership, Greek leadership and some political interest groups of Europe for the sake of owning the whole of Cyprus(The so-called national cause).

I hope TCs in North realize this fact and put their lives and affairs in a good order for a better future in their homeland.

[Get Real!]

In 15-20 years time, the so-called Europeanization will erase the last traces of Cypriotness on this island.

So what’s going to catch your children first Insan… Europeanization, Globalization, Turkification, or assimilation?

It looks like every ation is after you!

[insan]

In 15-20 years time, the so-called Europeanization will erase the last traces of Cypriotness on this island.

So what’s going to catch your children first Insan… Europeanization, Globalization, Turkification, or assimilation?

It looks like every ation is after you!

None of the above could catch me or my children. Under any circumstances I am able to manage to survive as I am and I could well educate my children to be able to survive as their dad has done but as i previously stated my existence on this island rather depends on huge water resources and secondarily depends on it's population. I don't like crowdy places. The day the population of permenant residents of this island reaches 3-4 million; even if there would be huge water resources, I would emigrate to a quiter, rural place in a country that has huge water resources.