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Postby EPSILON » Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:07 pm

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growuptcs wrote:Vp, you isolate yourself with lies and hold everyone including your own, ransom to it. Don't let me stop you from playing your Turkish child games. Obviously the shady Turks are still ruling. For now.


No you guys continue to fool and pressurize the world to isolate the TCs.


Yes you are right, the super power Cyprus government, instructed all nations to isolate the T/cs.Do you really believe in this propaganta?or is time to understand that the isolation is a result of the fact that World governments can not recognize a "state" created by force of arms?
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Postby insan » Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:10 pm

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growuptcs wrote:Vp, you isolate yourself with lies and hold everyone including your own, ransom to it. Don't let me stop you from playing your Turkish child games. Obviously the shady Turks are still ruling. For now.


No you guys continue to fool and pressurize the world to isolate the TCs.


Yes you are right, the super power Cyprus government, instructed all nations to isolate the T/cs.Do you really believe in this propaganta?or is time to understand that the isolation is a result of the fact that World governments can not recognize a "state" created by force of arms?


No. They don't recognize it because 2 sperate states solution does not serve their interests yet.
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Postby growuptcs » Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:13 pm

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growuptcs wrote:Vp, you isolate yourself with lies and hold everyone including your own, ransom to it. Don't let me stop you from playing your Turkish child games. Obviously the shady Turks are still ruling. For now.


No you guys continue to fool and pressurize the world to isolate the TCs.


You isolate yourselves and then point your finger to the nearest culprit, being a GC, Kurd, Armenian or whoever doesn't react like a Turkish puppet.
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Postby EPSILON » Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:16 pm

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growuptcs wrote:Vp, you isolate yourself with lies and hold everyone including your own, ransom to it. Don't let me stop you from playing your Turkish child games. Obviously the shady Turks are still ruling. For now.


No you guys continue to fool and pressurize the world to isolate the TCs.


Yes you are right, the super power Cyprus government, instructed all nations to isolate the T/cs.Do you really believe in this propaganta?or is time to understand that the isolation is a result of the fact that World governments can not recognize a "state" created by force of arms?



180 states in the world agree on your above position? their problem is their interests? lets say Nigeria or Mongolia have so big interests in Cyprus and herefore do not recognize your state because of these interests!!!!wake up..
No. They don't recognize it because 2 sperate states solution does not serve their interests yet.
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Postby The Cypriot » Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:21 pm

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Seriously, I can't argue with you on this one. You've got 40,000 troops on your side. They get their daily subsistence rations from the state, and so do you.


Correct, we do get financial support from our only ally Turkey.


Which means one of two things:

1. Cypriots supporting the part of the island not under the control of Turkey's military are the most astute international lobbyists the world has ever known;

2. Your position is entirely untenable as far as the rest of the world is concerned.

(Actually, I like to think it's a combination of the two - but either way you're in trouble).


Please clarify your mindset and the above comments in relation to who we have close ties with?


Not with you, VP... You say the protectorate in the north has only one ally. I'm speculating as to why.


Because of the GCs inhumane and continued isolation of the north.


You mean 1) then. You think too much of Cypriots that are free of Turkey's military. 2) is equally a factor.
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:03 pm

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Seriously, I can't argue with you on this one. You've got 40,000 troops on your side. They get their daily subsistence rations from the state, and so do you.


Correct, we do get financial support from our only ally Turkey.


Which means one of two things:

1. Cypriots supporting the part of the island not under the control of Turkey's military are the most astute international lobbyists the world has ever known;

2. Your position is entirely untenable as far as the rest of the world is concerned.

(Actually, I like to think it's a combination of the two - but either way you're in trouble).


Please clarify your mindset and the above comments in relation to who we have close ties with?


Not with you, VP... You say the protectorate in the north has only one ally. I'm speculating as to why.


Because of the GCs inhumane and continued isolation of the north.


You mean 1) then. You think too much of Cypriots that are free of Turkey's military. 2) is equally a factor.


You are not making any sense???
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Postby The Cypriot » Thu Apr 23, 2009 1:13 am

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Seriously, I can't argue with you on this one. You've got 40,000 troops on your side. They get their daily subsistence rations from the state, and so do you.


Correct, we do get financial support from our only ally Turkey.


Which means one of two things:

1. Cypriots supporting the part of the island not under the control of Turkey's military are the most astute international lobbyists the world has ever known;

2. Your position is entirely untenable as far as the rest of the world is concerned.

(Actually, I like to think it's a combination of the two - but either way you're in trouble).


Please clarify your mindset and the above comments in relation to who we have close ties with?


Not with you, VP... You say the protectorate in the north has only one ally. I'm speculating as to why.


Because of the GCs inhumane and continued isolation of the north.


You mean 1) then. You think too much of Cypriots that are free of Turkey's military. 2) is equally a factor.


You are not making any sense???


Last chance.....
You believe it's Cypriots in the internationally recognised part of the island that cause your isolation. I agree up to a point, because they have become extremely proficient lobbyists - lobbying (by peaceful means) being the only weapon they have against your "might-is-right" strategy.

However, another factor in your isolation is the fact that no one in the world can actually endorse your position; not leg-ally, not mor-ally, not politic-ally. You see, we have all the 'allies'.
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Postby Oracle » Thu Apr 23, 2009 1:31 am

The Cypriot ... do not introduce any new variable into VP's little world. He simply won't understand anything without the words: minority, life-jacket, partition, power-sharing, gifted!
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Postby The Cypriot » Thu Apr 23, 2009 1:47 am

I think playing "devil's advocate" all the time can be a bit of a strain for VP..... especially as he really is advocating for the devil in Cyprus.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Apr 23, 2009 12:49 pm

The Cypriot wrote:I think playing "devil's advocate" all the time can be a bit of a strain for VP..... especially as he really is advocating for the devil in Cyprus.


You continue to talk in riddles if you have anything to say, give it to us clear and concise it will make a hell of a difference and you may learn something.
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