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[The Cypriot]

All murdered auxillaries are included I think. Some killed by their own doing (making bombs), some civilians also included. There are dates and brief description of circumstances too. Unfortunately in Turkish. I can help in translating them.

Thanks, deniz. I'm only interested to know how many civilians of Muslim extraction were killed by EOKA. And, if possible, why they were killed. To see if those who killed them were "freedom fighters" or "terrorists".

[insan]

It is a fact that TCs were always against ENOSIS and a Greek controlled Cyprus.

I don't suppose anyone would deny that, insan.

In the begining of the EOKA struggle, there were both TCs and GCs serving as police auxillaries for Brits. Had any of those policemen been forced by Brits to join police forces of Brits?

I doubt it. You can't force someone to be a policeman. They'd be pretty ineffective.

or Bribed?

Most definitely. It was a financial inducement, whichever way you look at it.

I don't think so.

You're wrong so.

Bribe (noun)
Something, such as money or a favor, offered or given to a person in a position of trust to influence that person's views or conduct.

http://www.answers.com/topic/bribe

Let's not play with words, insan, esp. not English ones. It's my favourite subject.

So, why did they accept to become the auxillaries of Brits. For TCs answer is easy. Help Brits, prevent Enosis.

And to get paid, insan. They took the money.

In 1957, TCs backed by Turkey and Brits organized their own armed struggle for partition of Cyprus.

Ah yes! The real heroes. Taking money from two different imperialist powers to carve up the island of love.

I strongly feel like u r distorting the facts all in favour of ur "freedom fighters."

First of all, their leader Grivas was a well-known fascist and a merciless anti-communist. According to his ill-mentality a leftist was not even a human being. All other "freedom fighters" that followed him had the same mentality. In my book, fascists can't be freedom fighters.

[Viewpoint]

These people still cant accept their terrorist EOKA bastards killed Brits TCs and GCs for their cause which was to give Cyprus to Greece which was in effect the TC death warrant.

[The Cypriot]

I am outraged. By both of you, insan and VP. Read all my recent posts very carefully to see what I said about EOKA and who they killed before casting dispersions in this way.

READ MY POSTS CAREFULLY. And then, if you have any dignity as Cypriots, you'll apologise.

[Viewpoint]

I am outraged. By both of you, insan and VP. Read all my recent posts very carefully to see what I said about EOKA and who they killed before casting dispersions in this way.

READ MY POSTS CAREFULLY. And then, if you have any dignity as Cypriots, you'll apologise.

which posts in particular? please copy paste them forward.

[The Cypriot]

VP, the posts about EOKA in the last few hours - since you and I started discussing it.

You have to read my posts in context. I can't paste them. It won't make sense. You'll see what I mean if you do.

[Viewpoint]

VP, the posts about EOKA in the last few hours - since you and I started discussing it.

You have to read my posts in context. I can't paste them. It won't make sense. You'll see what I mean if you do.

These eoka bastards were terrorists and their ultimate goal was to get rid of the Brits and gift Cyprus to Greece which was in fact our death warrant, so TCs unable to stop you by themselves sided with the Brits. Which part dont you understand?

[The Cypriot]

These people still cant accept their terrorist EOKA bastards killed Brits TCs and GCs for their cause which was to give Cyprus to Greece which was in effect the TC death warrant.

Which people, VP? I'm the only one talking about EOKA.

And I described instances when EOKA killed leftists. In this instance these were most definitely terrorist killings as it was not to advance the cause of freedom, as they saw it, but to remove people with a different ideology to them. And I said as much in a post.

Perhaps they also killed innocent civilians of Muslim extraction. Deniz has promised to let us have a list tomorrow. If so, then that too was not to advance the cause of freedom, as they saw it, but was also an act of terrorism. And I said as much in a post.

So, far from not accepting, as you accuse, I'd already outlined two instances (one as yet unconfirmed) where EOKA would have committed acts of terrorism.

[insan]

I am outraged. By both of you, insan and VP. Read all my recent posts very carefully to see what I said about EOKA and who they killed before casting dispersions in this way.

READ MY POSTS CAREFULLY. And then, if you have any dignity as Cypriots, you'll apologise.

But u still consider them as freedom fighters. That's what I'm objecting. Shall I still owe u an apology?

[The Cypriot]

I am outraged. By both of you, insan and VP. Read all my recent posts very carefully to see what I said about EOKA and who they killed before casting dispersions in this way.

READ MY POSTS CAREFULLY. And then, if you have any dignity as Cypriots, you'll apologise.

But u still consider them as freedom fighters. That's what I'm objecting. Shall I still owe u an apology?

insan, those that fought the imperialists and their paid agents, in the cause of what they believed was freedom, were freedom fighters. Those that killed leftists simply because of their ideological beliefs were terrorists. Those (if there were any) who killed innocent civilians (Muslim or Christian) were terrorists. Are we clear now?

And you can apologise if you wish. But if you don't I won't hold it against you.