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[The Cypriot]

You mean this?

This, potentially, is in breach of the UK Public Order Act as it has labeled Cypriots conducting an armed struggle against colonial rule as 'murderers' and 'terrorists' which could incite hatred towards UK Cypriots. But it's extremely tenuous and the police are unlikely to show any interest. The most you could expect is for a local MP, perhaps with Cypriots in their constituency, to write a letter to the Telegraph expressing dismay. If that MP is a Tory then there may be an expression of contrition but I wouldn't hold your breath.

Another avenue is to issue a complaint with the UK Press Complaints Commission (PCC), as the label 'terrorist' could potentially be in breach of their Code of Conduct, under the accuracy clause. Note however, the PCC is a self-regulatory body with blunt teeth. Their Code is designed to protect individuals rather than communities or groups of people, and exists to prevent newspapers from incurring huge costs defending libel cases.

I have sent a complaint to the PCC. I don't think it warrants going to the police or writing to MP over. Is there anything else we can do (ie some other kind of body we can complain to?) thanks

Not that I know of..... please let us know how you get on with the PCC.

[YFred]

How about we do this.

Boris, the mayor of London first puts up a memorial in London in honour of the 17 year old EOKA fighters that were executed with the Queen's blessings and then we'll do the same over here for the fallen Brits.

This too can be arranged....

Might be a bit difficult, given that Boris has a turkish grandfather and believes that europe owes a debt to turkey because turkey caused the renaissance (or so he told us in a BBC TV program on a sunday evening a few months ago).

He wasn't just a Turkish grandfather; he was the leader who governed Turkey between the Ottoman period and RoT for a very brief period before being hanged for treason.

[74LB]

........ Huge disappointment too that they have been so easily manipulated by the Turks who offer them our occupied territories for such a "Memorial". Who are the Turks playing off at the moment? Making the Brits look uncaring and insensitive by allowing them to build on stolen lands, first "homes" and now "memorials". Disappointment at the Brits' disrespect not only for us in our occupation-weakened state, but for allowing their dead to be paraded and pawned in this way.

My understanding is that the memorial is not being built on land described above.

[Get Real!]

........ Huge disappointment too that they have been so easily manipulated by the Turks who offer them our occupied territories for such a "Memorial". Who are the Turks playing off at the moment? Making the Brits look uncaring and insensitive by allowing them to build on stolen lands, first "homes" and now "memorials". Disappointment at the Brits' disrespect not only for us in our occupation-weakened state, but for allowing their dead to be paraded and pawned in this way.

My understanding is that the memorial is not being built on land described above.

This “memorial” is being built without the permission of the RoC or the British government even. That’s all that matters.

The Cyprus Problem is already complex and troubling enough without having a bunch of embittered British ex-colonial geezers, digging up old wounds on disputed territory and causing unnecessary interferences and destabilization.

[Paphitis]

GatTourri Wrote:

Yeah, I’m so amazed I had to dig up one of my favorite smileys…

I thought this smiley.… was you favourite because you and Mrs Palmer and her 5 daughters go way back.....

[Paphitis]

The Cypriot Wrote:

That will only happen when Britain fulfils to its legal and moral obligation to guarantee Cyprus's territorial integrity; something it failed miserably to do in 1974 although it had the capacity to do so, and has steadfastly refused to do since, at the expense of its own diginity, because of some misconceived devotion to perceived US geo-strategic interests, that put oil ahead of humanity. So don't talk about removing lingering resentment. Someone might accuse you of being a 'traitor'.

Well, I totally agree with your post about Britain fulfilling her legal and moral obligations to the Republic of Cyprus, something Britain has not done thus far.

As for the US geo-strategic interests, I only agree with you from a moral point of view as I believe that the Iraq War was so fundamentally wrong even though my allegiances lie with my country which is also directly involved. However, I do believe that Cyprus should form closer ties with the US, firstly by applying for membership into the PfP.

As for being called a traitor, well I can live with this also, because I don't think it is such a big deal in letting the British have a proper a befitting memorial on unoccupied soil which is tasteful and is done in such a fashion which is respectful to the Republic of Cyprus and Cypriot citizens.

Naturally, it would be appreciated if the British also reciprocate these very sentiments towards us by not disrespecting our fallen either and also cease using the disgusting term of "terrorists". They could also assist in building an EOKA memorial in London for the benefit of London's Greek Cypriot community.

Quite frankly I see know problem with all of this and honestly believe that it is much preferable for the Republic of Cyprus if the British did not have their memorial in occupied Cyprus and had it in the unoccupied areas so that their fallen are not used to further sinister political motives or disrespect the Republic of Cyprus itself.

But your point about Britain's legal and moral obligations is well received.

The Cyriot wrote:

There's only one win for Cyprus in relation to this; when every last soldier from Turkey packs his army fatigues, gets on a boat and goes home.

Can't argue with that either...

[EPSILON]

........ Huge disappointment too that they have been so easily manipulated by the Turks who offer them our occupied territories for such a "Memorial". Who are the Turks playing off at the moment? Making the Brits look uncaring and insensitive by allowing them to build on stolen lands, first "homes" and now "memorials". Disappointment at the Brits' disrespect not only for us in our occupation-weakened state, but for allowing their dead to be paraded and pawned in this way.

My understanding is that the memorial is not being built on land described above.

This “memorial” is being built without the permission of the RoC or the British government even. That’s all that matters.

The Cyprus Problem is already complex and troubling enough without having a bunch of embittered British ex-colonial geezers, digging up old wounds on disputed territory and causing unnecessary interferences and destabilization.

OR-FURTHER: Israiles to take is as an example and build a status of Hitler in Jerusalim, in memory of some German soldiers they may killled during WWII!!

[Paphitis]

........ Huge disappointment too that they have been so easily manipulated by the Turks who offer them our occupied territories for such a "Memorial". Who are the Turks playing off at the moment? Making the Brits look uncaring and insensitive by allowing them to build on stolen lands, first "homes" and now "memorials". Disappointment at the Brits' disrespect not only for us in our occupation-weakened state, but for allowing their dead to be paraded and pawned in this way.

My understanding is that the memorial is not being built on land described above.

This “memorial” is being built without the permission of the RoC or the British government even. That’s all that matters.

The Cyprus Problem is already complex and troubling enough without having a bunch of embittered British ex-colonial geezers, digging up old wounds on disputed territory and causing unnecessary interferences and destabilization.

OR-FURTHER: Israiles to take is as an example and build a status of Hitler in Jerusalim, in memory of some German soldiers they may killled during WWII!!

Do you think the British Memorial in Kyrenia does anyone any good?

Look, I have as much reason to be resentful about the 55-59 Cyprus emergency as anyone, but I think there comes a time when everyone needs to let go for the sake of the Cyprus.

I believe your holocaust analogy is way over the top...

[EPSILON]

........ Huge disappointment too that they have been so easily manipulated by the Turks who offer them our occupied territories for such a "Memorial". Who are the Turks playing off at the moment? Making the Brits look uncaring and insensitive by allowing them to build on stolen lands, first "homes" and now "memorials". Disappointment at the Brits' disrespect not only for us in our occupation-weakened state, but for allowing their dead to be paraded and pawned in this way.

My understanding is that the memorial is not being built on land described above.

This “memorial” is being built without the permission of the RoC or the British government even. That’s all that matters.

The Cyprus Problem is already complex and troubling enough without having a bunch of embittered British ex-colonial geezers, digging up old wounds on disputed territory and causing unnecessary interferences and destabilization.

OR-FURTHER: Israiles to take is as an example and build a status of Hitler in Jerusalim, in memory of some German soldiers they may killled during WWII!!

Do you think the British Memorial in Kyrenia does anyone any good?

Look, I have as much reason to be resentful about the 55-59 Cyprus emergency as anyone, but I think there comes a time when everyone needs to let go for the sake of the Cyprus.

I believe your holocaust analogy is way over the top...

Not at all. What i was trying to say is that British,as occupators, coming after 50 or so years to give a memory status in the slaves land.This of course is unacceptable and this was the reason i gave the example of Israil in order to make it clear.

[Paphitis]

........ Huge disappointment too that they have been so easily manipulated by the Turks who offer them our occupied territories for such a "Memorial". Who are the Turks playing off at the moment? Making the Brits look uncaring and insensitive by allowing them to build on stolen lands, first "homes" and now "memorials". Disappointment at the Brits' disrespect not only for us in our occupation-weakened state, but for allowing their dead to be paraded and pawned in this way.

My understanding is that the memorial is not being built on land described above.

This “memorial” is being built without the permission of the RoC or the British government even. That’s all that matters.

The Cyprus Problem is already complex and troubling enough without having a bunch of embittered British ex-colonial geezers, digging up old wounds on disputed territory and causing unnecessary interferences and destabilization.

OR-FURTHER: Israiles to take is as an example and build a status of Hitler in Jerusalim, in memory of some German soldiers they may killled during WWII!!

Do you think the British Memorial in Kyrenia does anyone any good?

Look, I have as much reason to be resentful about the 55-59 Cyprus emergency as anyone, but I think there comes a time when everyone needs to let go for the sake of the Cyprus.

I believe your holocaust analogy is way over the top...

Not at all. What i was trying to say is that British,as occupators, coming after 50 or so years to give a memory status in the slaves land.This of course is unacceptable and this was the reason i gave the example of Israil in order to make it clear.

Yes it is unacceptable and I for one can't understand why they would do such a thing. It seems quite silly.

There must be some sinister motives behind it. Sounds like the "Friends of Turkey" have created this anti Cyprus debacle.