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[Paphitis]

Peace at last, even if temporary.

Then we all know Grivas' hatred for the 'commies' by his 'heroics' in the Greek civil war as an efficient 'commie' hunter. I suppose that being labelled an AKEL member was a sentence of death as far as Grivas and his men were concerned.

No Deniz.

I am certain EOKA had better things to do than to hunt down 200,000 innocent "commies" in Cyprus.

However, anyone that was caugth undermining the EOKA leadership and thus undermining the struggle, had to be dealt with and "The Cypriot" knows this only too well and that is why he has conceded defeat and gone off in a huff to wash his moustakia and vraka...

AKEL members were also tracked down in 1974, during the 'N. Sampson' era coup. They were still on the wrong side I suppose. So much for free expression. Its a terrifying thought. Whether true or not, mentioning these will no doubt put the wind up separatists who will simply ask, 'if they do that to their own people what hope have we got?' Then you cant blame them for wanting to split the island into two.

All Makarios loyalists were potential targets for the coupists. Makarios loyalists were not AKEL supporters. AKEL supporters were only coalition partners with the Makarios loyalists which later became the DIKO Party in Cyprus.

So most of the older members of the DIKO Party would have been the Junta's main target. They were not communist but were mostly centrist right wing.

[insan]

This is the same exactly the same as undermining and sabotaging the EOKA struggle for elf determination..

So they were NOT innocent after all....

The struggle for EOKA's idea of self determination and the struggle for freedom are not necessarily the same thing.

These people were NOT GUILTY of opposing the struggle for freedom. They were NOT GUILTY of collaboration. They should not have been murdered. Their murder was an act of terrorism.

Killing anyone for their ideological beliefs is an act of terrorism.

Can you get that through your cretinous head without accusations of TRAITOR?

Accusations like that get INNOCENT PEOPLE killed.

YOU MINDLESS CRETIN

I second this opinion. Grivas and most of the EOKA fighters were well trained, fascist-minded guerillas. Some fascist-minded political groups from Greece were supporting EOKA struggle by financially and arms supply. This is a fact. EOKA can only be the heroes and freedom fighters of right wing GCs and Greeks.

As I previously stated, most probably AKEL had a different agenda like TCs had. How was AKEL relation with socialist countries(Especially USSR) in the second half of 50s?

[Paphitis]

This is the same exactly the same as undermining and sabotaging the EOKA struggle for elf determination..

So they were NOT innocent after all....

The struggle for EOKA's idea of self determination and the struggle for freedom are not necessarily the same thing.

These people were NOT GUILTY of opposing the struggle for freedom. They were NOT GUILTY of collaboration. They should not have been murdered. Their murder was an act of terrorism.

Killing anyone for their ideological beliefs is an act of terrorism.

Can you get that through your cretinous head without accusations of TRAITOR?

Accusations like that get INNOCENT PEOPLE killed.

YOU MINDLESS CRETIN

I second this opinion. Grivas and most of the EOKA fighters were well trained, fascist-minded guerillas. Some fascist-minded political groups from Greece were supporting EOKA struggle by financially and arms supply. This is a fact. EOKA can only be the heroes and freedom fighters of right wing GCs and Greeks.

As I previously stated, most probably AKEL had a different agenda like TCs had. How was AKEL relation with socialist countries(Especially USSR) in the second half of 50s?

I don't think we there is a Turk that could disagree with Vraka Man...

[insan]

This is the same exactly the same as undermining and sabotaging the EOKA struggle for elf determination..

So they were NOT innocent after all....

The struggle for EOKA's idea of self determination and the struggle for freedom are not necessarily the same thing.

These people were NOT GUILTY of opposing the struggle for freedom. They were NOT GUILTY of collaboration. They should not have been murdered. Their murder was an act of terrorism.

Killing anyone for their ideological beliefs is an act of terrorism.

Can you get that through your cretinous head without accusations of TRAITOR?

Accusations like that get INNOCENT PEOPLE killed.

YOU MINDLESS CRETIN

I second this opinion. Grivas and most of the EOKA fighters were well trained, fascist-minded guerillas. Some fascist-minded political groups from Greece were supporting EOKA struggle by financially and arms supply. This is a fact. EOKA can only be the heroes and freedom fighters of right wing GCs and Greeks.

As I previously stated, most probably AKEL had a different agenda like TCs had. How was AKEL relation with socialist countries(Especially USSR) in the second half of 50s?

I don't think we there is a Turk that could disagree with Vraka Man...

Come on Paphiti.. Come with counter arguments.

[EPSILON]

Peace at last, even if temporary.

Then we all know Grivas' hatred for the 'commies' by his 'heroics' in the Greek civil war as an efficient 'commie' hunter. I suppose that being labelled an AKEL member was a sentence of death as far as Grivas and his men were concerned.

No Deniz.

I am certain EOKA had better things to do than to hunt down 200,000 innocent "commies" in Cyprus.

However, anyone that was caugth undermining the EOKA leadership and thus undermining the struggle, had to be dealt with and "The Cypriot" knows this only too well and that is why he has conceded defeat and gone off in a huff to wash his moustakia and vraka...

AKEL members were also tracked down in 1974, during the 'N. Sampson' era coup. They were still on the wrong side I suppose. So much for free expression. Its a terrifying thought. Whether true or not, mentioning these will no doubt put the wind up separatists who will simply ask, 'if they do that to their own people what hope have we got?' Then you cant blame them for wanting to split the island into two.

If you have a target (Union with Greece the G/cs and TAKSIM T/cs) and consider the today's situation you can easily understand which of them followed strigtly the target and who lost it in midway.

the problem in G/cs side was not the target but the people who undertaken to take us there.Akel found the berst solution of all-basis Greek junta destroyed Cyprus the best we can do is to change Ethnicity.
We must be very happy in G/cs side. The fanatics of right gave us the invasion and the fanatics of left completing the game by trying to change our last mean of defence, the Ethnicity itself.
Beacuse is easy for someone to understand that Turkish side will not have only the victory in the war of 1974 but also a victim without Ethnical status - ready just to change masters

[Paphitis]

This is the same exactly the same as undermining and sabotaging the EOKA struggle for elf determination..

So they were NOT innocent after all....

The struggle for EOKA's idea of self determination and the struggle for freedom are not necessarily the same thing.

These people were NOT GUILTY of opposing the struggle for freedom. They were NOT GUILTY of collaboration. They should not have been murdered. Their murder was an act of terrorism.

Killing anyone for their ideological beliefs is an act of terrorism.

Can you get that through your cretinous head without accusations of TRAITOR?

Accusations like that get INNOCENT PEOPLE killed.

YOU MINDLESS CRETIN

I second this opinion. Grivas and most of the EOKA fighters were well trained, fascist-minded guerillas. Some fascist-minded political groups from Greece were supporting EOKA struggle by financially and arms supply. This is a fact. EOKA can only be the heroes and freedom fighters of right wing GCs and Greeks.

As I previously stated, most probably AKEL had a different agenda like TCs had. How was AKEL relation with socialist countries(Especially USSR) in the second half of 50s?

I don't think we there is a Turk that could disagree with Vraka Man...

Come on Paphiti.. Come with counter arguments.

I don't have a counter argument for you Insan.

What's the point? I would only be wasting my time.

[DT.]

Peace at last, even if temporary.

Then we all know Grivas' hatred for the 'commies' by his 'heroics' in the Greek civil war as an efficient 'commie' hunter. I suppose that being labelled an AKEL member was a sentence of death as far as Grivas and his men were concerned.

No Deniz.

I am certain EOKA had better things to do than to hunt down 200,000 innocent "commies" in Cyprus.

However, anyone that was caugth undermining the EOKA leadership and thus undermining the struggle, had to be dealt with and "The Cypriot" knows this only too well and that is why he has conceded defeat and gone off in a huff to wash his moustakia and vraka...

AKEL members were also tracked down in 1974, during the 'N. Sampson' era coup. They were still on the wrong side I suppose. So much for free expression. Its a terrifying thought. Whether true or not, mentioning these will no doubt put the wind up separatists who will simply ask, 'if they do that to their own people what hope have we got?' Then you cant blame them for wanting to split the island into two.

All Makarios loyalists were potential targets for the coupists. Makarios loyalists were not AKEL supporters. AKEL supporters were only coalition partners with the Makarios loyalists which later became the DIKO Party in Cyprus.

So most of the older members of the DIKO Party would have been the Junta's main target. They were not communist but were mostly centrist right wing.

Just to get some things straight, there was a large number of AKEL supporters that were EOKA fighters as well. Enough with this story that AKEL and EOKA were at war.

[Paphitis]

Peace at last, even if temporary.

Then we all know Grivas' hatred for the 'commies' by his 'heroics' in the Greek civil war as an efficient 'commie' hunter. I suppose that being labelled an AKEL member was a sentence of death as far as Grivas and his men were concerned.

No Deniz.

I am certain EOKA had better things to do than to hunt down 200,000 innocent "commies" in Cyprus.

However, anyone that was caugth undermining the EOKA leadership and thus undermining the struggle, had to be dealt with and "The Cypriot" knows this only too well and that is why he has conceded defeat and gone off in a huff to wash his moustakia and vraka...

AKEL members were also tracked down in 1974, during the 'N. Sampson' era coup. They were still on the wrong side I suppose. So much for free expression. Its a terrifying thought. Whether true or not, mentioning these will no doubt put the wind up separatists who will simply ask, 'if they do that to their own people what hope have we got?' Then you cant blame them for wanting to split the island into two.

All Makarios loyalists were potential targets for the coupists. Makarios loyalists were not AKEL supporters. AKEL supporters were only coalition partners with the Makarios loyalists which later became the DIKO Party in Cyprus.

So most of the older members of the DIKO Party would have been the Junta's main target. They were not communist but were mostly centrist right wing.

Just to get some things straight, there was a large number of AKEL supporters that were EOKA fighters as well. Enough with this story that AKEL and EOKA were at war.

I know this DT.

It is The Cypriot that is trying to say that EOKA had extreme ideologies resulting in the 23 AKEL members opposing the leadership. Please read my post again, because I did not say that EOKA and AKEL were at war.

[insan]

Peace at last, even if temporary.

Then we all know Grivas' hatred for the 'commies' by his 'heroics' in the Greek civil war as an efficient 'commie' hunter. I suppose that being labelled an AKEL member was a sentence of death as far as Grivas and his men were concerned.

No Deniz.

I am certain EOKA had better things to do than to hunt down 200,000 innocent "commies" in Cyprus.

However, anyone that was caugth undermining the EOKA leadership and thus undermining the struggle, had to be dealt with and "The Cypriot" knows this only too well and that is why he has conceded defeat and gone off in a huff to wash his moustakia and vraka...

AKEL members were also tracked down in 1974, during the 'N. Sampson' era coup. They were still on the wrong side I suppose. So much for free expression. Its a terrifying thought. Whether true or not, mentioning these will no doubt put the wind up separatists who will simply ask, 'if they do that to their own people what hope have we got?' Then you cant blame them for wanting to split the island into two.

All Makarios loyalists were potential targets for the coupists. Makarios loyalists were not AKEL supporters. AKEL supporters were only coalition partners with the Makarios loyalists which later became the DIKO Party in Cyprus.

So most of the older members of the DIKO Party would have been the Junta's main target. They were not communist but were mostly centrist right wing.

Just to get some things straight, there was a large number of AKEL supporters that were EOKA fighters as well. Enough with this story that AKEL and EOKA were at war.

Who was the leader of Akel in second half of 50s?

[DT.]

Peace at last, even if temporary.

Then we all know Grivas' hatred for the 'commies' by his 'heroics' in the Greek civil war as an efficient 'commie' hunter. I suppose that being labelled an AKEL member was a sentence of death as far as Grivas and his men were concerned.

No Deniz.

I am certain EOKA had better things to do than to hunt down 200,000 innocent "commies" in Cyprus.

However, anyone that was caugth undermining the EOKA leadership and thus undermining the struggle, had to be dealt with and "The Cypriot" knows this only too well and that is why he has conceded defeat and gone off in a huff to wash his moustakia and vraka...

AKEL members were also tracked down in 1974, during the 'N. Sampson' era coup. They were still on the wrong side I suppose. So much for free expression. Its a terrifying thought. Whether true or not, mentioning these will no doubt put the wind up separatists who will simply ask, 'if they do that to their own people what hope have we got?' Then you cant blame them for wanting to split the island into two.

All Makarios loyalists were potential targets for the coupists. Makarios loyalists were not AKEL supporters. AKEL supporters were only coalition partners with the Makarios loyalists which later became the DIKO Party in Cyprus.

So most of the older members of the DIKO Party would have been the Junta's main target. They were not communist but were mostly centrist right wing.

Just to get some things straight, there was a large number of AKEL supporters that were EOKA fighters as well. Enough with this story that AKEL and EOKA were at war.

I know there were DT.

It is the Cypriot that is trying to say that EOKA had extreme ideologies resulting in the 23 AKEL members opposing the leadership.++Please read my post again, because I did not say that EOKA and AKEL were at war.

Wasn't talking about you Paphiti, was reffering to the 100's of posts beforehand.