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Postby The Cypriot » Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:12 pm

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This is the same exactly the same as undermining and sabotaging the EOKA struggle for elf determination..

So they were NOT innocent after all....


The struggle for EOKA's idea of self determination and the struggle for freedom are not necessarily the same thing.

These people were NOT GUILTY of opposing the struggle for freedom. They were NOT GUILTY of collaboration. They should not have been murdered. Their murder was an act of terrorism.

Killing anyone for their ideological beliefs is an act of terrorism.

Can you get that through your cretinous head without accusations of TRAITOR?

Accusations like that get INNOCENT PEOPLE killed.

YOU MINDLESS CRETIN


They were NOT innocent because they opposed the EOKA leadership and EOKA.

By undermining the EOKA leadership, they also undermined the struggle, and for that they received a death sentence...

Your ideology is also extreme, albeit at the opposite end of the spectrum, and your's is an ideology which has achieved nothing for Cyprus at all....and will even lead us to concede defeat. :roll:



I disagree. What are you going to do? KILL ME?
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Postby Paphitis » Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:26 pm

The Cypriot wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
This is the same exactly the same as undermining and sabotaging the EOKA struggle for elf determination..

So they were NOT innocent after all....


The struggle for EOKA's idea of self determination and the struggle for freedom are not necessarily the same thing.

These people were NOT GUILTY of opposing the struggle for freedom. They were NOT GUILTY of collaboration. They should not have been murdered. Their murder was an act of terrorism.

Killing anyone for their ideological beliefs is an act of terrorism.

Can you get that through your cretinous head without accusations of TRAITOR?

Accusations like that get INNOCENT PEOPLE killed.

YOU MINDLESS CRETIN


They were NOT innocent because they opposed the EOKA leadership and EOKA.

By undermining the EOKA leadership, they also undermined the struggle, and for that they received a death sentence...

Your ideology is also extreme, albeit at the opposite end of the spectrum, and your's is an ideology which has achieved nothing for Cyprus at all....and will even lead us to concede defeat. :roll:



I disagree. What are you going to do? KILL ME?


You said yourself that they opposed EOKA's extreme ideology at a time when they were at war with Britain.

Sounds like treason to me Chip.

It was a war after all, and EOKA could not allow these voices of opposition to continue their opposition and risk the struggle or the war effort.

No, I will not kill you Chip. Let and let live I say, because you are entitled to your opinion.

Your destiny as a second class citizen in Cyprus would be worse than death, so enjoy it when it comes and then come back and tell us all about EOKA's extreme ideologies which tried to liberate you from enslavement, slave.
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Postby EPSILON » Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:41 pm

The Cypriot wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
This is the same exactly the same as undermining and sabotaging the EOKA struggle for elf determination..

So they were NOT innocent after all....


The struggle for EOKA's idea of self determination and the struggle for freedom are not necessarily the same thing.

These people were NOT GUILTY of opposing the struggle for freedom. They were NOT GUILTY of collaboration. They should not have been murdered. Their murder was an act of terrorism.

Killing anyone for their ideological beliefs is an act of terrorism.

Can you get that through your cretinous head without accusations of TRAITOR?

Accusations like that get INNOCENT PEOPLE killed.

YOU MINDLESS CRETIN


Critisizing facts which took place more than half century ago basis today's situation is the usual mistake by many people including some "clever" politicians. I remind you the Germanotsoliades in Greece during WWII.The Gerrmans however were more clever- they were killing them after they were getting the necessary information from them.
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Postby The Cypriot » Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:00 pm

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Your destiny as a second class citizen in Cyprus would be worse than death, so enjoy it when it comes...


What are you drivelling on about? Second class citizen? I am a citizen of the EU, with the same rights and responsibilities as any other, whether I choose to live in the UK, Cyprus or any other EU country.

Paphitis wrote: and then come back and tell us all about EOKA's extreme ideologies which tried to liberate you from enslavement, slave.


I'm no one's slave and certainly won't be intimidated into silence by your purile accusations of treachery.

I am free to think for myself and free to say what I think.

But now I've got to get on with some work......
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Postby The Cypriot » Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:03 pm

EPSILON wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
This is the same exactly the same as undermining and sabotaging the EOKA struggle for elf determination..

So they were NOT innocent after all....


The struggle for EOKA's idea of self determination and the struggle for freedom are not necessarily the same thing.

These people were NOT GUILTY of opposing the struggle for freedom. They were NOT GUILTY of collaboration. They should not have been murdered. Their murder was an act of terrorism.

Killing anyone for their ideological beliefs is an act of terrorism.

Can you get that through your cretinous head without accusations of TRAITOR?

Accusations like that get INNOCENT PEOPLE killed.

YOU MINDLESS CRETIN


Critisizing facts which took place more than half century ago basis today's situation is the usual mistake by many people including some "clever" politicians. I remind you the Germanotsoliades in Greece during WWII.The Gerrmans however were more clever- they were killing them after they were getting the necessary information from them.


I believe we need to exorcise these old demons, once and for all, Epsilon. I believe enough time has passed now to make this possible.

Then maybe we can all move forward together... (anyway got to go).
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:09 pm

Peace at last, even if temporary.

Then we all know Grivas' hatred for the 'commies' by his 'heroics' in the Greek civil war as an efficient 'commie' hunter. I suppose that being labelled an AKEL member was a sentence of death as far as Grivas and his men were concerned.
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Postby BOF » Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:31 pm

I must apologise to all for not making it clear that i had copied and pasted that article in an earlier post from another source.
it was an oversight on my part.

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Postby Paphitis » Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:34 pm

denizaksulu wrote:Peace at last, even if temporary.

Then we all know Grivas' hatred for the 'commies' by his 'heroics' in the Greek civil war as an efficient 'commie' hunter. I suppose that being labelled an AKEL member was a sentence of death as far as Grivas and his men were concerned.


No Deniz.

I am certain EOKA had better things to do than to hunt down 200,000 innocent "commies" in Cyprus.

However, anyone that was caugth undermining the EOKA leadership and thus undermining the struggle, had to be dealt with and "The Cypriot" knows this only too well and that is why he has conceded defeat and gone off in a huff to wash his moustakia and vraka... :lol: :lol:
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Postby Paphitis » Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:38 pm

The Cypriot wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Your destiny as a second class citizen in Cyprus would be worse than death, so enjoy it when it comes...


What are you drivelling on about? Second class citizen? I am a citizen of the EU, with the same rights and responsibilities as any other, whether I choose to live in the UK, Cyprus or any other EU country.

Paphitis wrote: and then come back and tell us all about EOKA's extreme ideologies which tried to liberate you from enslavement, slave.


I'm no one's slave and certainly won't be intimidated into silence by your purile accusations of treachery.

I am free to think for myself and free to say what I think.

But now I've got to get on with some work......


That's right, let's all rely on the toothless tigers such as the EU, UN, Amnesty International and what not..... :roll:...because justice is on our side.

You will be free real soon, its just that no one told Turkey that she should be afraid.

Face it Vraka man, no one is going to help us not concede defeat...and we are making it easy for them. :roll:
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:42 pm

Paphitis wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:Peace at last, even if temporary.

Then we all know Grivas' hatred for the 'commies' by his 'heroics' in the Greek civil war as an efficient 'commie' hunter. I suppose that being labelled an AKEL member was a sentence of death as far as Grivas and his men were concerned.


No Deniz.

I am certain EOKA had better things to do than to hunt down 200,000 innocent "commies" in Cyprus.

However, anyone that was caugth undermining the EOKA leadership and thus undermining the struggle, had to be dealt with and "The Cypriot" knows this only too well and that is why he has conceded defeat and gone off in a huff to wash his moustakia and vraka... :lol: :lol:




AKEL members were also tracked down in 1974, during the 'N. Sampson' era coup. They were still on the wrong side I suppose. So much for free expression. Its a terrifying thought. Whether true or not, mentioning these will no doubt put the wind up separatists who will simply ask, 'if they do that to their own people what hope have we got?' Then you cant blame them for wanting to split the island into two.
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