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[utu]

With the outright 'parlimentary' majority win by Dervis Ergolu and his UBP in yesterday's polls, it does place a definite burden upon Mr. Talat in his negotiations with President Christofas. Of course, one could also speculate - as was indicated in a reply made to me in another thread - that this poll result was not so much an expression of the voters wills, but orchestrated by the politcians and military brasshats in Ankara. If it is the former, then the continued alienation of the north by the RoCy after the Annan Plan referendum was a bad move on the RoCy's part. If it is the latter, then one must take a close look at what the folks running Turkey and it's military machine have to gain by such a move.

[Dr J]

If it is the former, then the continued alienation of the north by the RoCy after the Annan Plan referendum was a bad move on the RoCy's part.

Says who? Why should the RoC give into hostage demands?

[YFred]

With the outright 'parlimentary' majority win by Dervis Ergolu and his UBP in yesterday's polls, it does place a definite burden upon Mr. Talat in his negotiations with President Christofas. Of course, one could also speculate - as was indicated in a reply made to me in another thread - that this poll result was not so much an expression of the voters wills, but orchestrated by the politcians and military brasshats in Ankara. If it is the former, then the continued alienation of the north by the RoCy after the Annan Plan referendum was a bad move on the RoCy's part. If it is the latter, then one must take a close look at what the folks running Turkey and it's military machine have to gain by such a move.

Mr Christofias has about 8 months to agree and the offer will suddenly decrease to even less than what he is being offered today, sadly.
If Denktash had any common sense, and listened to the Turkish government we could have been here 10 years ago.

[miltiades]

With the outright 'parlimentary' majority win by Dervis Ergolu and his UBP in yesterday's polls, it does place a definite burden upon Mr. Talat in his negotiations with President Christofas. Of course, one could also speculate - as was indicated in a reply made to me in another thread - that this poll result was not so much an expression of the voters wills, but orchestrated by the politcians and military brasshats in Ankara. If it is the former, then the continued alienation of the north by the RoCy after the Annan Plan referendum was a bad move on the RoCy's part. If it is the latter, then one must take a close look at what the folks running Turkey and it's military machine have to gain by such a move.

I do wonder what percentage of his total votes came from Turkish Cypriots. My guess not a great deal .
Shall we ask the T/Cs on the forum to tell us ? !!!

[utu]

If it is the former, then the continued alienation of the north by the RoCy after the Annan Plan referendum was a bad move on the RoCy's part.

Says who? Why should the RoC give into hostage demands?

Engagement would have yielded better results that continuing the isolation strategy. It was the isolation strategy that made this situation! If those folk up north of the green line are supposed to be your fellow citizens, then perhaps you'd best start treating them like that.

[YFred]

With the outright 'parlimentary' majority win by Dervis Ergolu and his UBP in yesterday's polls, it does place a definite burden upon Mr. Talat in his negotiations with President Christofas. Of course, one could also speculate - as was indicated in a reply made to me in another thread - that this poll result was not so much an expression of the voters wills, but orchestrated by the politcians and military brasshats in Ankara. If it is the former, then the continued alienation of the north by the RoCy after the Annan Plan referendum was a bad move on the RoCy's part. If it is the latter, then one must take a close look at what the folks running Turkey and it's military machine have to gain by such a move.

I do wonder what percentage of his total votes came from Turkish Cypriots. My guess not a great deal .
Shall we ask the T/Cs on the forum to tell us ? !!!

Milt, you can look for scapegoats, the real problem was all that time wasted by TPapa, even more sadly.

[utu]

Milt, you can look for scapegoats, the real problem was all that time wasted by TPapa, even more sadly.

Sadly, I have to agree. Tassos Papadopoulous did more to kill any chance of reconciliation than any other Cypriot President. You could say that he sewed the seeds of Ergolu's victory in the north's polls.

[YFred]

Milt, you can look for scapegoats, the real problem was all that time wasted by TPapa, even more sadly.

Sadly, I have to agree. Tassos Papadopoulous did more to kill any chance of reconciliation than any other Cypriot President. You could say that he sewed the seeds of Ergolu's victory in the north's polls.

Instead of meeting Talat who was the negotiator, he tried to meet Denktas Junior. The GCs will kick themselves for missing yet another opporotunity to solve the problem, this now bocomes literaly the last chance.

[miltiades]

Fred , is it perhaps that the G/Cs know full well that they are NOT negotiating with those with whom to share power but with Turkey .?

[YFred]

Fred , is it perhaps that the G/Cs know full well that they are NOT negotiating with those with whom to share power but with Turkey .?

It is also possible that TPapa being in the Denktas mould believed that no solution was the solution. What ever the game was it has backfired, the TCs may no longer want a unification or EU. But what ever you do you cannot put it down to settlers, becasue they voted for CTP last time.