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[miltiades]

I too believe that the negotiations will fail once again and partition will be officially put in agenda to be discussed. Do u think any power on planet earth could force TCs and Turkey to accept Greek-GC solution thesis under the cu rent or future circumstances? I don't even give just 0.1% chance for that.

How will it fail? Will they reach an agreement? and which side is likely to vote against it?

Fred the T/Cs will never willingly become a part of Turkey and absorbed , or rather racially annihilated. The population of the occupied part is no longer one of T/Cs but one of mainland Turks.
The indigenous T/Cs feel just as threatened by the huge influx of the mountain settlers as the rest of the Cypriots do. The truth of the matter is that Turkey illegally introduced the settlers in order to alter the demographics of the occupied part. As far as the International community and the EU in particular recognising the Turkish majority in the occupied areas as a Cypriot one . forget it because they are not fed the propaganda that the settlers are. The occupied part of Cyprus is administered and totally controlled by the occupying power, the T/Cs tell me this and I'm certain you too hear the same.

[Viewpoint]

Miltiades the Tcs can tell you what they want the facts are here in the TRNC, yours are second hand from TCs living in good old UK. The win of UBP means a more nationalistic viewpoint their isimmediate talk of changing Ozdil Nami of the TP party as negotiator with President Talat. With a new UBP guy on board who will be demanding a 2 state solution and reposrting back to Eroğlu President Talats job will be near enough impossible. the only way forward after breakdown of talks is to either get the TRNC recognized or unite with Turkey as the population becomes more Turkish and less Cypriot this will be a nautral development. The choice is yours become more flexible and compromise or else stand your ground and lose out all together.

[utu]

If it is the former, then the continued alienation of the north by the RoCy after the Annan Plan referendum was a bad move on the RoCy's part.

Says who? Why should the RoC give into hostage demands?

Engagement would have yielded better results that continuing the isolation strategy. It was the isolation strategy that made this situation! If those folk up north of the green line are supposed to be your fellow citizens, then perhaps you'd best start treating them like that.

If Canadian Indians ever take up arms, close off 37% of Canadian territory, and have the US encouraging and protecting them from the Canadian forces restoring order, guess whose government will be on the phone to Cyprus first thing in the morning asking about isolation strategies…

Actually, just look at the map of Canada and take a look at a certain territory: Nunavut. Read up on why that territory was created. It might be educational for you, GR.

[eracles]

This election result shows the world that most TCs |(or at least settlers and their TMT brethren) never actually wanted to reunite.
It was a sham - a greedy woman looking for a meal ticket, thank god the marriage was called off in 2004.
As soon as the going got difficult in the pre-marriage dicussions she wanted to throw the towel in, even when things started looking more hopeful! That's commitment for you.
Well done TCs. The Turks have done a good job on you, you placed your faith in them like drooling poodles and they have done a far better job of annhilating you than any blood thirsty evil GC could have done.

[Viewpoint]

This election result shows the world that most TCs |(or at least settlers and their TMT brethren) never actually wanted to reunite.
It was a sham - a greedy woman looking for a meal ticket, thank god the marriage was called off in 2004.
As soon as the going got difficult in the pre-marriage dicussions she wanted to throw the towel in, even when things started looking more hopeful! That's commitment for you.
Well done TCs. The Turks have done a good job on you, you placed your faith in them like drooling poodles and they have done a far better job of annhilating you than any blood thirsty evil GC could have done.

Turk vs GC which do you think the TCs prefer?

[eracles]

This election result shows the world that most TCs |(or at least settlers and their TMT brethren) never actually wanted to reunite.
It was a sham - a greedy woman looking for a meal ticket, thank god the marriage was called off in 2004.
As soon as the going got difficult in the pre-marriage dicussions she wanted to throw the towel in, even when things started looking more hopeful! That's commitment for you.
Well done TCs. The Turks have done a good job on you, you placed your faith in them like drooling poodles and they have done a far better job of annhilating you than any blood thirsty evil GC could have done.

Turk vs GC which do you think the TCs prefer?

Precisely my point.

[Viewpoint]

This election result shows the world that most TCs |(or at least settlers and their TMT brethren) never actually wanted to reunite.
It was a sham - a greedy woman looking for a meal ticket, thank god the marriage was called off in 2004.
As soon as the going got difficult in the pre-marriage dicussions she wanted to throw the towel in, even when things started looking more hopeful! That's commitment for you.
Well done TCs. The Turks have done a good job on you, you placed your faith in them like drooling poodles and they have done a far better job of annhilating you than any blood thirsty evil GC could have done.

Turk vs GC which do you think the TCs prefer?

Precisely my point.

Made our choice in 1974, we are Turkish in origin not Greek as ou wanted to make us by gifting Cyprus to Greece.

[eracles]

This election result shows the world that most TCs |(or at least settlers and their TMT brethren) never actually wanted to reunite.
It was a sham - a greedy woman looking for a meal ticket, thank god the marriage was called off in 2004.
As soon as the going got difficult in the pre-marriage dicussions she wanted to throw the towel in, even when things started looking more hopeful! That's commitment for you.
Well done TCs. The Turks have done a good job on you, you placed your faith in them like drooling poodles and they have done a far better job of annhilating you than any blood thirsty evil GC could have done.

Turk vs GC which do you think the TCs prefer?

Precisely my point.

Made our choice in 1974, we are Turkish in origin not Greek as ou wanted to make us by gifting Cyprus to Greece.

Whatever you want to believe....

[insan]

This election result shows the world that most TCs |(or at least settlers and their TMT brethren) never actually wanted to reunite.
It was a sham - a greedy woman looking for a meal ticket, thank god the marriage was called off in 2004.
As soon as the going got difficult in the pre-marriage dicussions she wanted to throw the towel in, even when things started looking more hopeful! That's commitment for you.
Well done TCs. The Turks have done a good job on you, you placed your faith in them like drooling poodles and they have done a far better job of annhilating you than any blood thirsty evil GC could have done.

TCs were always against a Greek ruled Cyprus. TMT has nothing to do with it. When TCs began to struggle against ENOSIS and Greek domination, Ataturk was 8 years old, Turkey was not established, there was no TMT or settlers or whatsoever. As long as majority of GCs and Greeks wish a Greek controlled Cyprus, TCs will always be against it. TCs well knew and know what's happened to Turks of Crete, Mora and Greece. TCs also r well aware of how intensified hatred and pre-judice filled into brains of nationalist GCs and Greeks.

[Get Real!]

If it is the former, then the continued alienation of the north by the RoCy after the Annan Plan referendum was a bad move on the RoCy's part.

Says who? Why should the RoC give into hostage demands?

Engagement would have yielded better results that continuing the isolation strategy. It was the isolation strategy that made this situation! If those folk up north of the green line are supposed to be your fellow citizens, then perhaps you'd best start treating them like that.

If Canadian Indians ever take up arms, close off 37% of Canadian territory, and have the US encouraging and protecting them from the Canadian forces restoring order, guess whose government will be on the phone to Cyprus first thing in the morning asking about isolation strategies…

Actually, just look at the map of Canada and take a look at a certain territory: Nunavut. Read up on why that territory was created. It might be educational for you, GR.

So what do you suggest smartarse… that an indigenous national reserve be setup for Turkish Cypriots?