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[DT.]

With the outright 'parlimentary' majority win by Dervis Ergolu and his UBP in yesterday's polls, it does place a definite burden upon Mr. Talat in his negotiations with President Christofas. Of course, one could also speculate - as was indicated in a reply made to me in another thread - that this poll result was not so much an expression of the voters wills, but orchestrated by the politcians and military brasshats in Ankara. If it is the former, then the continued alienation of the north by the RoCy after the Annan Plan referendum was a bad move on the RoCy's part. If it is the latter, then one must take a close look at what the folks running Turkey and it's military machine have to gain by such a move.

I do wonder what percentage of his total votes came from Turkish Cypriots. My guess not a great deal .
Shall we ask the T/Cs on the forum to tell us ? !!!

Milt, you can look for scapegoats, the real problem was all that time wasted by TPapa, even more sadly.

for 30 years you had denktash...what was his favourite word?

[Sotos]

With the outright 'parlimentary' majority win by Dervis Ergolu and his UBP in yesterday's polls, it does place a definite burden upon Mr. Talat in his negotiations with President Christofas. Of course, one could also speculate - as was indicated in a reply made to me in another thread - that this poll result was not so much an expression of the voters wills, but orchestrated by the politcians and military brasshats in Ankara. If it is the former, then the continued alienation of the north by the RoCy after the Annan Plan referendum was a bad move on the RoCy's part. If it is the latter, then one must take a close look at what the folks running Turkey and it's military machine have to gain by such a move.

Mr Christofias has about 8 months to agree and the offer will suddenly decrease to even less than what he is being offered today, sadly.
If Denktash had any common sense, and listened to the Turkish government we could have been here 10 years ago.

And if he does not agree in the 8 months then what? You and Turkey will not see any EU and you will continue to rod in the pseudo state crying for the isolation. Have fun You can't blackmail us you filthy beggar.

[Dr J]

Engagement would have yielded better results that continuing the isolation strategy. It was the isolation strategy that made this situation! If those folk up north of the green line are supposed to be your fellow citizens, then perhaps you'd best start treating them like that.

What isolation? Turkish Cypriots have the same rights as any other Cypriot citizen in the RoC. Infact, didnt TPap offer Turkish Cypriots an incentive to many jobs and a port to trade from with the opening of Famagusta - something that Turkey rejected? Arent Turkish Cypriots allowed to trade via the green line too?

Isnt it more obvious that Turkish Cypriots and Turkey want to seal the ethnic cleansing of Cypriots in the north with their own recognised Turkish state? Why else would they reject the Famagusta propoasal?

Utu, do you think Turkish Cypriots would take the chance to trade via the occupied ports in the north on the condition that the exported produce was stamped 'Made In The Republic of Cyprus'?????

[YFred]

With the outright 'parlimentary' majority win by Dervis Ergolu and his UBP in yesterday's polls, it does place a definite burden upon Mr. Talat in his negotiations with President Christofas. Of course, one could also speculate - as was indicated in a reply made to me in another thread - that this poll result was not so much an expression of the voters wills, but orchestrated by the politcians and military brasshats in Ankara. If it is the former, then the continued alienation of the north by the RoCy after the Annan Plan referendum was a bad move on the RoCy's part. If it is the latter, then one must take a close look at what the folks running Turkey and it's military machine have to gain by such a move.

Mr Christofias has about 8 months to agree and the offer will suddenly decrease to even less than what he is being offered today, sadly.
If Denktash had any common sense, and listened to the Turkish government we could have been here 10 years ago.

And if he does not agree in the 8 months then what? You and Turkey will not see any EU and you will continue to rod in the pseudo state crying for the isolation. Have fun You can't blackmail us you filthy beggar.

Isolation my left foot. Within 12 months either we will be independent or join Turkey proper. Watch it happen and weep you washed up robber. We will have our new dawn instead.

[YFred]

With the outright 'parlimentary' majority win by Dervis Ergolu and his UBP in yesterday's polls, it does place a definite burden upon Mr. Talat in his negotiations with President Christofas. Of course, one could also speculate - as was indicated in a reply made to me in another thread - that this poll result was not so much an expression of the voters wills, but orchestrated by the politcians and military brasshats in Ankara. If it is the former, then the continued alienation of the north by the RoCy after the Annan Plan referendum was a bad move on the RoCy's part. If it is the latter, then one must take a close look at what the folks running Turkey and it's military machine have to gain by such a move.

I do wonder what percentage of his total votes came from Turkish Cypriots. My guess not a great deal .
Shall we ask the T/Cs on the forum to tell us ? !!!

Milt, you can look for scapegoats, the real problem was all that time wasted by TPapa, even more sadly.

for 30 years you had denktash...what was his favourite word?

Oh yahu. Meaning my pleasure, but you guys thought he meant Ohi.

[Sotos]

With the outright 'parlimentary' majority win by Dervis Ergolu and his UBP in yesterday's polls, it does place a definite burden upon Mr. Talat in his negotiations with President Christofas. Of course, one could also speculate - as was indicated in a reply made to me in another thread - that this poll result was not so much an expression of the voters wills, but orchestrated by the politcians and military brasshats in Ankara. If it is the former, then the continued alienation of the north by the RoCy after the Annan Plan referendum was a bad move on the RoCy's part. If it is the latter, then one must take a close look at what the folks running Turkey and it's military machine have to gain by such a move.

Mr Christofias has about 8 months to agree and the offer will suddenly decrease to even less than what he is being offered today, sadly.
If Denktash had any common sense, and listened to the Turkish government we could have been here 10 years ago.

And if he does not agree in the 8 months then what? You and Turkey will not see any EU and you will continue to rod in the pseudo state crying for the isolation. Have fun You can't blackmail us you filthy beggar.

Isolation my left foot. Within 12 months either we will be independent or join Turkey proper. Watch it happen and weep you washed up robber. We will have our new dawn instead.

I would suggest to you to take a long vacation from the forum before April 20, 2010 because on that day I will be here laughing at you and the rest of the beggars. You think you can force us to accept your demands or else you will get your partition legalized? You are wrong fredy. And don't hope that I will forget what you said about the "within 12 months". I put a reminder on my calendar with a link to this thread I will tell you what will happen in 12 months. Nothing. At most there will still be useless negotiations. Lets see who will be right and who will be wrong. So who bets that YFred will be right and who bets that Sotos will be right?

[YFred]

With the outright 'parlimentary' majority win by Dervis Ergolu and his UBP in yesterday's polls, it does place a definite burden upon Mr. Talat in his negotiations with President Christofas. Of course, one could also speculate - as was indicated in a reply made to me in another thread - that this poll result was not so much an expression of the voters wills, but orchestrated by the politcians and military brasshats in Ankara. If it is the former, then the continued alienation of the north by the RoCy after the Annan Plan referendum was a bad move on the RoCy's part. If it is the latter, then one must take a close look at what the folks running Turkey and it's military machine have to gain by such a move.

Mr Christofias has about 8 months to agree and the offer will suddenly decrease to even less than what he is being offered today, sadly.
If Denktash had any common sense, and listened to the Turkish government we could have been here 10 years ago.

And if he does not agree in the 8 months then what? You and Turkey will not see any EU and you will continue to rod in the pseudo state crying for the isolation. Have fun You can't blackmail us you filthy beggar.

Isolation my left foot. Within 12 months either we will be independent or join Turkey proper. Watch it happen and weep you washed up robber. We will have our new dawn instead.

I would suggest to you to take a long vacation from the forum before April 20, 2010 because on that day I will be here laughing at you and the rest of the beggars. You think you can force us to accept your demands or else you will get your partition legalized? You are wrong fredy. And don't hope that I will forget what you said about the "within 12 months". I put a reminder on my calendar with a link to this thread I will tell you what will happen in 12 months. Nothing. At most there will still be useless negotiations. Lets see who will be right and who will be wrong. So who bets that YFred will be right and who bets that Sotos will be right?

If you are right I will buy you an efes beer in Girne, if I am right you can buy me a Keo in Limasol, how about that.

[Get Real!]

Isolation my left foot. Within 12 months either we will be independent or join Turkey proper. Watch it happen and weep you washed up robber. We will have our new dawn instead.

What exactly do you mean?

That Turkey is going to announce the annexation of UN condemned Cypriot territory to the rest of the world and expect applause?

Or that the world is going to recognize a territory condemned by the UN as an independent state because Turkish Cypriots are too important and influential to let international law get in the way?

[YFred]

Isolation my left foot. Within 12 months either we will be independent or join Turkey proper. Watch it happen and weep you washed up robber. We will have our new dawn instead.

What exactly do you mean?

That Turkey is going to announce the annexation of UN condemned Cypriot territory to the rest of the world and expect applause?

Or that the world is going to recognize a territory condemned by the UN as an independent state because Turkish Cypriots are too important and influential to let international law get in the way?

If TCs vote in a referendum to either go independent or join Turkey what can anybody do? GR we are not in 1974. 2009 is a different time period. TCs are not seen as the bad guys anymore, thanks to your lovely TPapa and his shenanigans in the last few years.

[Sotos]

With the outright 'parlimentary' majority win by Dervis Ergolu and his UBP in yesterday's polls, it does place a definite burden upon Mr. Talat in his negotiations with President Christofas. Of course, one could also speculate - as was indicated in a reply made to me in another thread - that this poll result was not so much an expression of the voters wills, but orchestrated by the politcians and military brasshats in Ankara. If it is the former, then the continued alienation of the north by the RoCy after the Annan Plan referendum was a bad move on the RoCy's part. If it is the latter, then one must take a close look at what the folks running Turkey and it's military machine have to gain by such a move.

Mr Christofias has about 8 months to agree and the offer will suddenly decrease to even less than what he is being offered today, sadly.
If Denktash had any common sense, and listened to the Turkish government we could have been here 10 years ago.

And if he does not agree in the 8 months then what? You and Turkey will not see any EU and you will continue to rod in the pseudo state crying for the isolation. Have fun You can't blackmail us you filthy beggar.

Isolation my left foot. Within 12 months either we will be independent or join Turkey proper. Watch it happen and weep you washed up robber. We will have our new dawn instead.

I would suggest to you to take a long vacation from the forum before April 20, 2010 because on that day I will be here laughing at you and the rest of the beggars. You think you can force us to accept your demands or else you will get your partition legalized? You are wrong fredy. And don't hope that I will forget what you said about the "within 12 months". I put a reminder on my calendar with a link to this thread I will tell you what will happen in 12 months. Nothing. At most there will still be useless negotiations. Lets see who will be right and who will be wrong. So who bets that YFred will be right and who bets that Sotos will be right?

If you are right I will buy you an efes beer in Girne, if I am right you can buy me a Keo in Limasol, how about that.

OK! But only after you are publicly ridiculed in the forum and admit that you have always talked bullshit