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Postby Oracle » Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:10 pm

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insan wrote:Ok. Keep struggling for what u created in ur imagination. I respect.


If 'you respect', insan, then why the unbecoming sarcasm? There was nothing sarcastic in what I said. I follow the news on Cyprus very carefully indeed and there is nothing imaginary about the theses I have presented.

It is you that is imprisoned in an imaginary never-never land.

insan wrote:And could u please explain me what national cause GC leadership talk abt with Greek leadership when they meet? Whose national cause is that?


The national cause of President Christofias, whose election was secured from real Cypriot voters, not by imported settlers from a third controlling country, is to secure the reunification of Cyprus for all her people. He has said so on many, many occasions. Don't the prison wardens let you hear his statements? Or are you so institutionalised that you refuse to believe them?

When he visits Greece, Britain or any other European Union partner it is to garner support for the national cause. And since he was elected the term solution BY Cypriots FOR Cypriots has gained international currency and has been reiterated on numerous occasions by UN officials as well as senior politicians on both sides of the Atlantic. They realised an Annan Plan solution BY UK/US FOR Turkey was a non-starter now that Cyprus, as a whole, had joined the EU.

So put that in your nargile pipe and smoke it... if the guards will let you.


When a GC and Greek president meet to talk abt Cyprus problem, the common national cause they talk abt is the Greek national cause. Even your former president TPap called GCs as Greeks of Cyprus. Why r u ignoring it?


When Cyprus meets with Greece, it is not to talk about a common "National - Greek" cause but a Common EU cause ... much the same as when Cyprus meets with France or Germany etc.
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Postby The Cypriot » Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:11 pm

Another tribute to Papadopoulos. Another reminder that he and his policies are dead and buried.

You are seeking to justify something to me that you're not able to justify to yourself, insan. Enough already.
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Postby insan » Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:18 pm

The Cypriot wrote:Another tribute to Papadopoulos. Another reminder that he and his policies are dead and buried.

You are seeking to justify something to me that you're not able to justify to yourself, insan. Enough already.


National Guard Emblem - The Two-headed Eagle was established as the emblem of the National Guard since its founding in 1964. It symbolizes the ecumenical character of the Greek spirit. The two-headed eagle was a mystical symbol of Hellenism since the ancient times. In ancient mythology, it was the par-excellence godly and heavenly bird, helper and protector of Zeus. It was first used as a symbol of power during the Byzantine years. It symbolized the dual sovereignty of the Byzantine Emperors in Europe and Asia.

http://www.cyprusnet.com/article_cyprus-national-guard
R u happy with it? Or disturbs, and u wish it would be changed into something symbolizes "Cypriot" spirit?
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Postby The Cypriot » Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:19 pm

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When I analyzed the speech of Christofias regarding TPap, what I understood is how great man was TPap for him, for all GCs and even for all Hellenes.


People say nice things about you at your funeral, insan. It's kind of what's expected in civilised society.

If I was speaking at your funeral I'd say...

"insan was a firm proponent of the cause he believed in and would stop at nothing to get his point across. His pride and tenacity were admirable and he will be remembered by all on the Cyprus Forum."

People might twist this and say that I (and others on CF) endorsed your views, which of course – you and I know – none of us do. :wink:
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Postby Oracle » Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:22 pm

Oohh ... can we have more obituaries for insan? :D
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Postby The Cypriot » Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:23 pm

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National Guard Emblem - The Two-headed Eagle was established as the emblem of the National Guard since its founding in 1964. It symbolizes the ecumenical character of the Greek spirit. The two-headed eagle was a mystical symbol of Hellenism since the ancient times. In ancient mythology, it was the par-excellence godly and heavenly bird, helper and protector of Zeus. It was first used as a symbol of power during the Byzantine years. It symbolized the dual sovereignty of the Byzantine Emperors in Europe and Asia.

http://www.cyprusnet.com/article_cyprus-national-guard
R u happy with it?


Not really, no.

insan wrote:Or disturbs, and u wish it would be changed into something symbolizes "Cypriot" spirit?


I do wish. Do you?
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Postby insan » Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:26 pm

The Cypriot wrote:
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National Guard Emblem - The Two-headed Eagle was established as the emblem of the National Guard since its founding in 1964. It symbolizes the ecumenical character of the Greek spirit. The two-headed eagle was a mystical symbol of Hellenism since the ancient times. In ancient mythology, it was the par-excellence godly and heavenly bird, helper and protector of Zeus. It was first used as a symbol of power during the Byzantine years. It symbolized the dual sovereignty of the Byzantine Emperors in Europe and Asia.

http://www.cyprusnet.com/article_cyprus-national-guard
R u happy with it?


Not really, no.

insan wrote:Or disturbs, and u wish it would be changed into something symbolizes "Cypriot" spirit?


I do wish. Do you?


Yes. :D
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Postby The Cypriot » Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:30 pm

Oracle wrote:Oohh ... can we have more obituaries for insan? :D


Oh, O!

I do believe insan is giving me the runaround this evening trying to justify the unjustifiable. But you know what? I'd rather engage with him than some of those knuckle-Medusa-heads I had to chop and chop at the other evening so as to secure Zeno and Aphrodite for Cyprus! FOR CYPRUS!

insan, is a prisoner in the north. Those Greek flag-waving idiots have no excuses.
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Postby The Cypriot » Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:32 pm

insan wrote:
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National Guard Emblem - The Two-headed Eagle was established as the emblem of the National Guard since its founding in 1964. It symbolizes the ecumenical character of the Greek spirit. The two-headed eagle was a mystical symbol of Hellenism since the ancient times. In ancient mythology, it was the par-excellence godly and heavenly bird, helper and protector of Zeus. It was first used as a symbol of power during the Byzantine years. It symbolized the dual sovereignty of the Byzantine Emperors in Europe and Asia.

http://www.cyprusnet.com/article_cyprus-national-guard
R u happy with it?


Not really, no.

insan wrote:Or disturbs, and u wish it would be changed into something symbolizes "Cypriot" spirit?


I do wish. Do you?


Yes. :D


Then why are we arguing?
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Postby insan » Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:57 pm

The Cypriot wrote:
Oracle wrote:Oohh ... can we have more obituaries for insan? :D


Oh, O!

I do believe insan is giving me the runaround this evening trying to justify the unjustifiable. But you know what? I'd rather engage with him than some of those knuckle-Medusa-heads I had to chop and chop at the other evening so as to secure Zeno and Aphrodite for Cyprus! FOR CYPRUS!

insan, is a prisoner in the north. Those Greek flag-waving idiots have no excuses.


I'm not trying to justify anything, The Cypriot. I'm trying to show u that overwhelming majority of ur democratically elected leaders and Greek leaders(and even many GC and Greek politicians) were considering the inhabitants of South Cyprus as Greeks of Cyprus. For decades, GCs governed and guided by right wing Greek nationalists of Cyprus and Greece.

GC history text-books still reflect their perspective of the events of the past that Chris and his political party as left-wingers having a different perspective, attempted to revise the GC history text-books of the GCs but failed bcz of strong opposition of right wingers.

In my opinion, in the next general elections besides presidential elections Chris and AKEL will loose and everything in South will return it's old right wing days.

From the right-wing nationalist perspective of GCs and Greeks the overwhelming majority of the citizens of South Cyprus r Greeks of Cyprus and the inhabitants of North Cyprus r Turks of Cyprus.

In the end, the opinions and the "struggle" of a few "Cypriots" don't change the facts abt the masses of Cyprus.
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