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[paliometoxo]

Easy to answer. GCs want a united one state solution and TCs want a partition and two states. The GCs will not accept partition and the TCs will not accept a unitary state.

exactly, turkey has to be convinced or persuaded to allow re unification in cyprus.. the jurkish army

[DT.]

I would accept British colonial rule, DT, for the next 100 years. You do not apprehend the full dimension of the disaster that has hit us.

Would you accept the acheson plan though?

[repulsewarrior]

Cypriots have to demonstrate a love for this island above their identities as persons and for the first time in its history choose for themselves as Individuals a State which is not subject to their being "Greek" or "Turkish", except in that for the Governance each elector vote in exactly the same way as equals.

Geographically speaking, I see the frontier remaining. However in my Cyprus the island is spotted with enclaves, (fair trade of land, and the choice for people to return as communities) both grecophone and turcophone, having a bicommunal nature two National Assemblies for the government of these territories as majorities providing for the needs of minorities amongst them while sustaining their daily lives.

Turkey is an acid test...
if she cannot refuse, then it is perfect.

[Piratis]

Who are the GC's who want a united, one state solution? It is the first time I hear this but sotos probably means his fascist friends in Chrysi Avgi who as always line their fascism with a thick smear of patriotic jargon that may appeal to the ears of the smallest of people and the bigots, of course.

You are wrong.

According to the poll, 80 per cent of Greek Cypriots want a unified state with a central government, while 71 per cent of Turkish Cypriots are in favour of two separate states with international recognition.

A solution entailing a bizonal, bicommunal federation gets 44 per cent of the Greek Cypriot vote and 49 per cent of the Turkish Cypriot vote.

Only ten per cent of Greek Cypriots, compared to 33 per cent of Turkish Cypriots, wish to see the continuation of the status quo.

A federal solution with two sovereign states is preferred by nine per cent of Greek Cypriots and 39 per cent of Turkish Cypriots.

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=45090

The Cypriot people people have been blackmailed to accept BBF as a huge compromise but it is DEFINITELY not what they want.

And still, the BBF that Cypriots are willing to accept is a BFF with the right content, not whatever plan is presented as "BBF", and the rejection of Annan plan by the 76% of the people shows this fact in the most clear way.

So get your facts straight.

Regarding the initial question, the Cypriot people don't want to be offered options by foreigners regarding what to do with their own island. Such "options" will always serve the interests of those who make the "options" and not the interests of the Cypriot people. What the Cypriot people want is their freedom and self-determination so they can democratically decide whatever they want for their own island.

[insan]

Piratis, wishes a BBF that in the end would lead GC rule and return of all TC-GC refugees. What a compromise eh? Gaz gelen yerden tavuğu esirgemezler.(throw out a sprat to catch a mackerel)

[Ierini-Baris]

""""""οφείλουμε να θέσουμε την πατρίδα υπεράνω όλων """"
The above says it all . We simply DO NOT put the interests of our country above all else.
We are anti American anti West anti NATO and solid supporters of each and every ineffective tinpot little country in the world. Speak to any school child in Cyprus and ask about the Anglo Americans and you will get the answer.
What on earth does Cyprus gain by its support of so many alien to the West causes .
Why on earth do we constantly denigrate those that can be instrumental in securing a solution to our problem. Will the future generations of Cypriots praise us or curse us for inviting the Turkish occupation army along with thousands of settlers with whom not only we but our T/C compatriots have nothing in common if you exclude religion which to the T/Cs is of less significance , and language.

Your TC "compatriots" arrived 450 years ago the settlers 35 years...origins are the same.

Origin of the settlers are the same ? I have genetic evidence that it is not !!!!! Chcek phylogenetic trees Turket TC and see If they are the same..You are not a part of people that beilives we were send to Cyprus on a random basis are you ?

[insan]

""""""οφείλουμε να θέσουμε την πατρίδα υπεράνω όλων """"
The above says it all . We simply DO NOT put the interests of our country above all else.
We are anti American anti West anti NATO and solid supporters of each and every ineffective tinpot little country in the world. Speak to any school child in Cyprus and ask about the Anglo Americans and you will get the answer.
What on earth does Cyprus gain by its support of so many alien to the West causes .
Why on earth do we constantly denigrate those that can be instrumental in securing a solution to our problem. Will the future generations of Cypriots praise us or curse us for inviting the Turkish occupation army along with thousands of settlers with whom not only we but our T/C compatriots have nothing in common if you exclude religion which to the T/Cs is of less significance , and language.

Your TC "compatriots" arrived 450 years ago the settlers 35 years...origins are the same.

Origin of the settlers are the same ? I have genetic evidence that it is not !!!!! Chcek phylogenetic trees Turket TC and see If they are the same..You are not a part of people that beilives we were send to Cyprus on a random basis are you ?

IB, maybe u r descendent of a "converted" that had mixed blood of Choirokittian, Arab, Roman, Venetian, Lusignan, Hellene etc. Maybe I am too. Maybe VP is descendent of a Turco-Mongol-Helleno. We all have mixed blood ancestors but we r how we feel ourselves what we r. Regarding the solution thesis of Cyprus problem, I feel myself much closer to TC-Turkish solution thesis than GC-Greek solution thesis. How do u feel urself? Whatever it is, I respect.

[Oracle]

""""""οφείλουμε να θέσουμε την πατρίδα υπεράνω όλων """"
The above says it all . We simply DO NOT put the interests of our country above all else.
We are anti American anti West anti NATO and solid supporters of each and every ineffective tinpot little country in the world. Speak to any school child in Cyprus and ask about the Anglo Americans and you will get the answer.
What on earth does Cyprus gain by its support of so many alien to the West causes .
Why on earth do we constantly denigrate those that can be instrumental in securing a solution to our problem. Will the future generations of Cypriots praise us or curse us for inviting the Turkish occupation army along with thousands of settlers with whom not only we but our T/C compatriots have nothing in common if you exclude religion which to the T/Cs is of less significance , and language.

Your TC "compatriots" arrived 450 years ago the settlers 35 years...origins are the same.

Origin of the settlers are the same ? I have genetic evidence that it is not !!!!! Chcek phylogenetic trees Turket TC and see If they are the same..You are not a part of people that beilives we were send to Cyprus on a random basis are you ?

IB ... would you please post this evidence and any details pertaining to the conclusions.

The best thread may be xristoforos'

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=23412

[The Cypriot]

IB, maybe u r descendent of a "converted" that had mixed blood of Choirokittian, Arab, Roman, Venetian, Lusignan, Hellene etc. Maybe I am too. Maybe VP is descendent of a Turco-Mongol-Helleno. We all have mixed blood ancestors but we r how we feel ourselves what we r. Regarding the solution thesis of Cyprus problem, I feel myself much closer to TC-Turkish solution thesis than GC-Greek solution thesis. How do u feel urself? Whatever it is, I respect.

Let's just dispel this myth once and for all. There are two solution theses to Cyprus but they are not G/GC verses T/TC.

They are:

1) the indigenous Cypriot reunification thesis representing and endorsed by the vast majority of Cypriots of all backgrounds and including a growing number of Cypriots of Muslim extraction, many of whom no longer live in the open prison that is the north.

2) the imported Turkish partition thesis representing expansionist Turkey's perceived geopolitical interests on the island and endorsed by many if not most settlers who now make up well over 60% of the electorate in the north (brought over for this purpose), as well as elements of right-wing institutionalised TC residue who also pollute this forum with their disgusting "might-is-right" bile.

Thesis 1 is backed by the whole world, the EU, UN, UK and US, and is about securing freedom and prosperity for the whole island and all its people as a reunified country in the EU. A solution BY Cypriots FOR Cypriots.

Thesis 2 is backed by the Turkish military and deep state which also inhibits real progress towards Turkey developing democratic values to enable it to become a modern civilised EU nation.

[insan]

IB, maybe u r descendent of a "converted" that had mixed blood of Choirokittian, Arab, Roman, Venetian, Lusignan, Hellene etc. Maybe I am too. Maybe VP is descendent of a Turco-Mongol-Helleno. We all have mixed blood ancestors but we r how we feel ourselves what we r. Regarding the solution thesis of Cyprus problem, I feel myself much closer to TC-Turkish solution thesis than GC-Greek solution thesis. How do u feel urself? Whatever it is, I respect.

Let's just dispel this myth once and for all. There are two solution theses to Cyprus but they are not G/GC verses T/TC.

They are:

1) the indigenous Cypriot reunification thesis representing and endorsed by the vast majority of Cypriots of all backgrounds and including a growing number of Cypriots of Muslim extraction, many of whom no longer live in the open prison that is the north.

2) the imported Turkish partition thesis representing expansionist Turkey's perceived geopolitical interests on the island and endorsed by many if not most settlers who now make up well over 60% of the electorate in the north (brought over for this purpose), as well as elements of right-wing institutionalised TC residue who also pollute this forum with their disgusting "might-is-right" bile.

Thesis 1 is backed by the whole world, the EU, UN, UK and US, and is about securing freedom and prosperity for the whole island and all its people as a reunified country in the EU. A solution BY Cypriots FOR Cypriots.

Thesis 2 is backed by the Turkish military and deep state which also inhibits real progress towards Turkey developing democratic values to enable it to become a modern civilised EU nation.

Ok. Keep struggling for what u created in ur imagination. I respect. And could u please explain me what national cause GC leadership talk abt with Greek leadership when they meet? Whose national cause is that?