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[Bananiot]

The crazy woman will never understand the issue of strategy and tactics which can take you to a result that is feasible. People like her think that in this world it is enough to have justice on your side (which of course we do not entirely have) in order to succeed. Eleftherios Venizelos had to face many oracles in his time and history teaches us that every time the oracles got the upper hand, the country went three steps backwards.

"Velvet revolution" means agreed partition of course and it is velvet because no tears or blood is shed. Unfortunately, many people in the south now believe that it is better if the Turks stay in their part and we stay in our part, building a wall to separate us. The most "patriotic" elements in Cyprus (the whole of it) think like this and I would dare say that in our part at least, this kind of thinking is a result of both frustration (setting unattainable goals) and racist notions that our education system has endowed our society at large.

[YFred]

The crazy woman will never understand the issue of strategy and tactics which can take you to a result that is feasible. People like her think that in this world it is enough to have justice on your side (which of course we do not entirely have) in order to succeed. Eleftherios Venizelos had to face many oracles in his time and history teaches us that every time the oracles got the upper hand, the country went three steps backwards.

"Velvet revolution" means agreed partition of course and it is velvet because no tears or blood is shed. Unfortunately, many people in the south now believe that it is better if the Turks stay in their part and we stay in our part, building a wall to separate us. The most "patriotic" elements in Cyprus (the whole of it) think like this and I would dare say that in our part at least, this kind of thinking is a result of both frustration (setting unattainable goals) and racist notions that our education system has endowed our society at large.

As much as we agree about the crazy woman and how she should be ignored, was the "Velvet Revolution" not coined after the non-violent overthrow of the Communist Regime in Czechoslovakia where Václav Havel became the new President?
The partition came about much later.

[Bananiot]

You are correct YFred but if we were to extrapolate to Cyprus, I think the specific person that used this term probably meant partition. Besides, the crazy woman said that she did not want to topple (sic) the governement.

[YFred]

Sorry, I stopped reading the crazy woman's posts some time ago. I assumed that we were going to overthrow the government in a non violent way just like the original one. Its typical of her though to move half a step forward followed by 5 steps back.

[Oracle]

You have "partition" on the brain Bananiot and obviously mix too much with "racists" like yourself for these to figure so repeatedly in your vocabulary.

It's unbelievable how you view having justice on our side (as have the Tibetans) with so little credence, and instead wish us to ignore our 'shameful' justified position by simply offering the criminals what they came here to get. Decriminalising them is your goal rather than hard-held or won, justice. Justice seems to embarrass you!

You know very well what is meant by Velvet Revolution and YFred earlier tried to point that out to you. But again your one track mind drifts back to your singular state of happiness where you share a pedestal with Gul and Erdogan and present them the key, without resistance, to our illegally held territories.

It's the mood, exemplified by Bananiots, which needs to be changed. Like the Czechoslovaks joined in the growing discontent amongst the other oppressed of the time; we similarly should gain in confidence along with the Tibetans/ others, and change the mind-set which looks to justify and decriminalise these Old World Imperialist, Expansionist countries like China and Turkey, in illegally occupying their neighboring sovereign countries.

[Bananiot]

Wow, your coaching is paying off. But, you are right, I worry too much about partition ...

[Oracle]

Wow, your coaching is paying off. But, you are right, I worry too much about partition ...

The only way in which you worry about "partition" is if you think we will continue to pursue justice and what is rightfully ours, instead of simply giving up the occupied territories, permanently, to your mates, the Turks.

We have observed the non-violent means which were adopted during the political revolutions of the '80's ... sad we did not also see results (sooner). In that, we share a commonality with our Tibetan brotherhood.

Since President Christofias was big enough to seek the help of the Pope in safeguarding what remains of our religious, cultural and historical artifacts, from the greedy looting Turks ... perhaps he will now seek Counsel with His Holiness the Dalai Lama for a synergistic fusion to ending the tyranny of those who, unable to have truth on their side, have used force upon us!

[Bananiot]

Synergistic fusion with Dalai Lama and Turkey is shivering in her pants. You have totally lost it. That is my last response on the matter. You can have the last word.

[Oracle]

Synergistic fusion with Dalai Lama and Turkey is shivering in her pants. You have totally lost it. That is my last response on the matter. You can have the last word.

No Bananiot, it is people like you that make "Turkey shiver in her pants" ... with delightful anticipation at how easily she has managed to get Bananiots to do her dirty work.

People like you underestimate the power of something as 'un-forceful' as Velvet Revolutions, and I hope the increasing world consciousness for seeking justice and true peace, will topple old style fascist expansionist dictators, attached to countries such as Turkey, who steal and ignore justice and Human rights. I really do not understand where the likes of Bananiot fit into modern civilisation any more .... A dying breed, I hope....

[turkkan]

Since President Christofias was big enough to seek the help of the Pope in safeguarding what remains of our religious, cultural and historical artifacts, from the greedy looting Turks ... perhaps he will now seek Counsel with His Holiness the Dalai Lama for a synergistic fusion to ending the tyranny of those who, unable to have truth on their side, have used force upon us!

How did that work out btw? You spent a lot of tax payers money sending both paps and him to meet the pope, he hasnt said anything publicly yet. Maybe next month?