Cyprus-Forum.com

[metecyp]

See what i mean it is impossible to communicate with you?

I think the communication problem lies more in you than me. You make vague or provocative statements whose true meanings are only clear to yourself. When people like myself react, you always revert back to "I didn't mean all TCs are like this, rather I meant this...". Ask anyone in this forum and they'll tell you the same thing.

You want me to repeat who I called thieves? Are you one of them? Furthermore yes I revealed you the truth.99% of the GCs you will ask will tell you the Turks and the TCs stole our houses and our properties.Didn’t anyone you met at the bi-copmmunal meetings tell you? If not it was simply out of politeness.Therefore you should be grateful to me for telling you the truth.

Ok, I agree with you that some TCs can be considered thieves. I've heard about some TCs who had nothing before 1974. After 1974, they got rich all of a sudden. Or there were some Turks who came to Cyprus after 1974, sold the GC land, became rich, and went back to Turkey. These people are thieves, we agree on this!

However, most of TCs are not thieves and GCs are wrong in thinking that 1974 was all about stealing their properties. Many TCs migrated from the south and they had to use GC properties in order to survive. Many TC land in the south are also being used by GCs.

I watched on TV 2 weeks ago about a TC guy who migrated from Poli. He never got any GC land in the north. There are 2 huge factories on his land in Poli now and he's told that he can't ask for compensation until after a solution. He's suing the factory owners now.

How would you feel if we called those factory owners thieves?? Part of Larnaca airport is also owned by TCs, does this make RoC a thief? Some of Larnaca beach area is also owned by TCs. GCs having properties in that area are also thieves??

Do you really believe that by calling people thieves, we'll increasing the understanding between the two communities?

Is that disrespect for your death or is it a sarcasm for the so frequent repeatition of those 4 villages in a poem like manner?

Ok, I respect your dead in 1974. As far as I know, there were about 5000 GCs killed or missing, and this is a huge number considering the size of Cyprus. But can you tell me if a whole village was massacred by Turks/TCs? I know there are deads from villages but as far as I know, no single village was completely massacred by Turks. As you know everybody, including children and women were massacred in "Atlilar-Murataga-Sandallar", that's why it's so sensitive. Every men in Dohni were massacred, except the one who got injured. That's why it's so sensitive.

Did a similar thing happen on your side? I heard once about a village Assia (Pasakoy) and some massacres happenning there but I don't know the extent. I'm ready to face the massacres of my side because I know nobody is innocent and I'll respect your losses no matter how many times you might repeat it. I'm asking the same from you. That's all.

[MicAtCyp]

Murtaza did you read the evidence that the GCs did NOT do it, yes or no?
If you did not, then go ahead and read them because you look like a clown.

[MicAtCyp]

Woops sorry I meant to say Karagoz

[Murtaza]

did I said It was greeks who killed that soldier?
But what the hell are you thinking about us?
Monster?

Kill our soldier. That is most stupid think I ever hear. What are we?
A bunch of murderer who kill each other for nothing?
By the way, Karagoz is not a clown, He is a funny and intelligent guy.

[MicAtCyp]

did I said It was greeks who killed that soldier? But what the hell are you thinking about us?
Monster?

Kill our soldier. That is most stupid think I ever hear. What are we?
A bunch of murderer who kill each other for nothing?

So if the Greeks did not kill him who killed him? Who are the ones who are hiding the evidence as to who killed him? The British? The Greeks? Or the Turks? Give me a straight answer.

By the way, Karagoz is not a clown, He is a funny and intelligent guy.

Not in Greek.

[MicAtCyp]

By the way why do you find it so strange for an Army to kill its own soldiers? Even to kill its own people. It happened thousands of times so far in almost every army of the world. It also happened in the Greek and GC army before 1974. Hitler was even killing Austrians when he himself was an Austrian.
Do you think the Turkish army is any different? All the armies in the world are killing machines....

[metecyp]

Do you think the Turkish army is any different? All the armies in the world are killing machines....

What does this have to do with Allahverdi Kilic's dead? Ok, maybe there are killings in the Turkish army, but don't you think it's too much of a coincidence that he was killed right after that 2 GC guys got killed?

There's no hard evidence that he was killed by Turks, only rumors. I know there's no hard evidence that he was killed by GCs either but considering the situation at the time, even a 2 year old can tell you that it is more likely that he was killed by a GC soldier.

Instead of acknowledging this, you keep insisting that he was killed by Turks...and I think this stems from your distorted image of Turks and anything that is Turkish.

[Yiannis]

even a 2 year old can tell you that it is more likely that he was killed by a GC soldier.

Yes a 2year old boy would probably think that but what about a logical grown up man.Isn't it also possible that it was an act to even out what happened some days before.Couldn't it have been an act to blame the GCs too for what happened those days and tell the world "Hey look we might have killed those 2 guys but they didnt stay behind either". Tell me isnt that as equally possible?

And one last question do you trust the army over there metecyp???

[Viewpoint]

very twisted logic, a norm for many GCs....

[Murtaza]

By the way why do you find it so strange for an Army to kill its own soldiers? Even to kill its own people. It happened thousands of times so far in almost every army of the world. It also happened in the Greek and GC army before 1974. Hitler was even killing Austrians when he himself was an Austrian.
Do you think the Turkish army is any different? All the armies in the world are killing machines....

I dont think they are different. Infact you are thinking they are different.
Do your army offenly kill his soldiers without reason?

So if the Greeks did not kill him who killed him?

I didnt said they didnt,

I am not detective, So I dont care it much.

The British? The Greeks? Or the Turks

God knows. Maybe an alien?

By the way, did you ever watch a karagoz play?