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Tassoc Issac & Solomos Solomou whatever happend?

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Postby metecyp » Sun Jun 12, 2005 8:38 pm

What excuse can we have for this one, especially when policemen were involved?

No excuse Kifeas. There's no justification for those killings.
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Postby gabaston » Sun Jun 12, 2005 8:41 pm

Some bloke recently drove around Larnaca Airport runway and could have caused a serious incident – Please be warned such actions will not be tolerated at Ercan. If a gc civilian does the same stunt there, he is likely to be shot, if he doesn’t heed warnings to stop. Such bravados carry consequences, which perpetrators should appreciate. That flagpole incident, though regrettable, was an act of similar bravado. Had a tc tried to do the same in the south, we would have expected the same result.
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Postby metecyp » Sun Jun 12, 2005 8:46 pm

That flagpole incident, though regrettable, was an act of similar bravado. Had a tc tried to do the same in the south, we would have expected the same result.

Possibly so, but that incident would have been wrong as well. The proper action was to take down the person from the flagpole, send him to a court and let him serve his sentence according to the laws and regulations.
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Postby gabaston » Sun Jun 12, 2005 9:03 pm

there have been many wrongs in Cyprus.
was there a correct way to deal with the children in the bath? probably yes, but in the heat of the moment it was overlooked.

You and i can not really put ourselves in that position. This incident could have lead to war. He may have had bombs on him. What is an officer supposed to do? wait until a grenade is thrown at his men, or wait to be charged by a civilian mob, what consequences then?
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Postby Kifeas » Sun Jun 12, 2005 9:12 pm

gabaston wrote:Some bloke recently drove around Larnaca Airport runway and could have caused a serious incident – Please be warned such actions will not be tolerated at Ercan. If a gc civilian does the same stunt there, he is likely to be shot, if he doesn’t heed warnings to stop. Such bravados carry consequences, which perpetrators should appreciate. That flagpole incident, though regrettable, was an act of similar bravado. Had a tc tried to do the same in the south, we would have expected the same result.


Gabaston,
Only non-serious people can talk in the manner you are talking. No one has the right to take another human's life, unless in self-defence or in order to save the life of another person who is under an immanent thread. All the rest you have said is pure rubbish, to say the least.

People commit illogical acts for a number of reason, and not just because they are terrorists or criminals. The person who run into the runaway of the airport was mentally unstable. He could also have been under the influence of drugs. He could also be a paranoid or a schizophrenic. Should any police or any other authority shoot and kill people just like that? What you just suggested is by itself an act of bravado. You make me have serious doubts about the level of your civility, when I read comments like those you made previously.
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Postby gabaston » Sun Jun 12, 2005 10:07 pm

Kifeas

You are of-course welcome to your opinion on my civility levels, I have my opinions about you too, which I shall keep to myself.


What I am saying is that this incident occurred during war, not during peace, we are officially at war are we not? He was warned not once, but twice. I do not condone the actions that followed, but how were the authorities supposed to act when someone crosses the border illegally, ignores warnings to stop not once but twice, there is a baying mob behind him, and there are two opposing armies facing each other. Armies and/or officers stationed at strategic flash-points in war time have to make decisions, and you nor I can not appreciate that, we have no understanding of what facing such incidents are, so for you to say what is right and what is wrong is highly ignorant. I am not saying that what that officer did is right. My question, which you have not addressed, is:

How was that officer to know that the man climbing the flagpole did not carry a grenade or other weapon?
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Postby gabaston » Sun Jun 12, 2005 10:14 pm

kifeas

you say that you were forced by the turkish army to leave paphos.

can you please explain what levels of force were exerted upon you?
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Postby -mikkie2- » Sun Jun 12, 2005 10:22 pm

Gabaston,

You are talking complete and utter rubbish. If your views are shared by the majority of TC's and in turn by the maority of Turks then you are simply backward. Turkey is trying to show it is worthy of joining Europe. THe TC's have been given Europe on a plate. Its about time you started to act European as well. Unfortunately changing mentalities such as yours will take generations.

There is NO justification for what happedned to Solomou and Isaac. Your pathetic attempts to even justify their murder is simply pathetic and it just goes to show how far you people have to go before yuo can even be considered civilised in todays world.

Sorry if this sounds harsh, but quite frankly you deserve it.
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Postby gabaston » Sun Jun 12, 2005 10:52 pm

mikkie 2

you too are welcome to your opinions, and i am etitled to mine. I have my opinions about you too.

European? lol .............hey keep it.
I hope we dont join you can lick our plate too.
You think you've joined something worth joining, havent you heard theyre all clambering to get out. Enjoy your Europe, and talk to me about Eu in ten or even five years time.

we saw European in serbia, theyre about to arrest another civilsed serb for war crimes. If the Gcs are of the same opinion as you then yes I agree with you reconciliation has will be put back more than one generation.
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Postby gabaston » Sun Jun 12, 2005 10:54 pm

such desciptions

rubbish and pathetic..................peh

in your imagination
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