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[The Cypriot]

I consider all of Cyprus my country. How can I not?

Good for you, mate. And no one yet has opted for big Mama Türkiye.

Someone better vote for her quick. She may get upset and take the boys home.

Looks like my warning was heeded... Mama will be proud.

[Get Real!]

On the other hand, Cyprus, being an island, was uninhabited back then. The first human settlements in Cyprus were at around 10.000BC.

Wrong! If you zoom in to marker “M35” you’ll find that Cyprus was first in line. You should also read what it says about their origin on the right.



The settlements you're referring to are the oldest found at Aetokremos but that doesn't mean nobody else existed prior to that just because they left no traces behind, or their traces haven’t been found yet, or may never be found.

[The Cypriot]

Forgive me guys but isn't all this somewhat... err... academic? Or have I missed something?

[Get Real!]

Forgive me guys but isn't all this somewhat... err... academic? Or have I missed something?

Academic? We've haven't even scraped the subject!

[Piratis]

On the other hand, Cyprus, being an island, was uninhabited back then. The first human settlements in Cyprus were at around 10.000BC.

Wrong! If you zoom in to marker “M35” you’ll find that Cyprus was first in line. You should also read what it says about their origin on the right.



The settlements you're referring to are the oldest found at Aetokremos but that doesn't mean nobody else existed prior to that just because they left no traces behind, or their traces haven’t been found yet, or may never be found.

M35 doesn't have Cyprus as destination.

These maps are based on evidence. The evidence show that the first human settlements in Cyprus are at about 10.000BC. If/when we excavate something older than that, then we could revise this. You can't make baseless claims which are not supported by the evidence.

But the important thing here is that Cyprus had some prehistoric settlements just like they existed everywhere. There is really nothing special in Cyprus about this. If anything, being an island, Cyprus was not inhabited early, and when it was, settlement was in very small numbers since access to the island was difficult before the discovery of boats that could travel safely in the open seas.

[Get Real!]

On the other hand, Cyprus, being an island, was uninhabited back then. The first human settlements in Cyprus were at around 10.000BC.

Wrong! If you zoom in to marker “M35” you’ll find that Cyprus was first in line. You should also read what it says about their origin on the right.



The settlements you're referring to are the oldest found at Aetokremos but that doesn't mean nobody else existed prior to that just because they left no traces behind, or their traces haven’t been found yet, or may never be found.

M35 doesn't have Cyprus as destination.

These maps are based on evidence. The evidence show that the first human settlements in Cyprus are at about 10.000BC. If/when we excavate something older than that, then we could revise this. You can't make baseless claims which are not supported by the evidence.

But the important thing here is that Cyprus had some prehistoric settlements just like they existed everywhere. There is really nothing special in Cyprus about this. If anything, being an island, Cyprus was not inhabited early, and when it was, settlement was in very small numbers since access to the island was difficult before the discovery of boats that could travel safely in the open seas.

The marker clearly and intentionally goes over Cyprus, followed by Turkey, and THEN Greece. The time period taken each step of the way is not indicated so don’t assume it was a direct journey to Greece!

If they wanted to indicate a journey straight to Greece they would’ve avoided the unnecessary loop!

[Oracle]

On the other hand, Cyprus, being an island, was uninhabited back then. The first human settlements in Cyprus were at around 10.000BC.

Wrong! If you zoom in to marker “M35” you’ll find that Cyprus was first in line. You should also read what it says about their origin on the right.



The settlements you're referring to are the oldest found at Aetokremos but that doesn't mean nobody else existed prior to that just because they left no traces behind, or their traces haven’t been found yet, or may never be found.

GR! that broad sweep of a migratory path is indicative only of the direction of the 'gene flow' ... minute details cannot be extrapolated such as your wish that the marker is older in Cyprus, i.e. first arriving in Cyprus before being found in Greece. If the case were that simple, then you have to accept our direct brotherhood with the Greeks of Greece ... The legend to the figure does not mention Cyprus as being colonised first with M35 carriers.

Besides if you follow the arrow as true, then those early people would have had to sail from Egypt to Cyprus and then on to Greece, something you disputed as a possibility for such "primitive" peoples earlier in the debate.

[Get Real!]

The legend to the figure does not mention Cyprus as being colonised first with M35 carriers.

Besides if you follow the arrow as true, then those early people would have had to sail from Egypt to Cyprus and then on to Greece, something you disputed as a possibility for such "primitive" peoples earlier in the debate.

So what exactly are you suggesting? That people sailed straight to Greece from Egypt? Are you out of your mind???

[The Cypriot]

Forgive me guys but isn't all this somewhat... err... academic? Or have I missed something?

Academic? We've haven't even scraped the subject!

Academic as in... (according to my trusted Concise Oxford)

abstract, theoretical, not of practical relevance

as well as the other meaning.

Or have I missed something?

[Get Real!]

Forgive me guys but isn't all this somewhat... err... academic? Or have I missed something?

Academic? We've haven't even scraped the subject!

Academic as in... (according to my trusted Concise Oxford)

abstract, theoretical, not of practical relevance

as well as the other meaning.

Or have I missed something?

Well duh! This is a debating forum not a kafenio!