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WHICH IS THE T/Cs MOTHERLAND

Poll ended at Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:10 am

I'm a T/C and consider all of Cyprus is my motherland
13
62%
I'm a T/C and consider Turkey to be my motherland
3
14%
I'm a T/C and consider only the North of Cyprus to be my motherland
5
24%
 
Total votes : 21

Postby Get Real! » Wed Apr 15, 2009 1:13 am

Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote: As for apes, that’s based on the assumption of evolution in which case the theory also suggests major geographical evolutions too.


What is this supposed to mean?

It's supposed to mean that according to evolution Cyprus was part of present day Turkey so any "apes" could’ve easily existed on Cyprus too before it "broke off"...
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Postby insan » Wed Apr 15, 2009 1:16 am

Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote: As for apes, that’s based on the assumption of evolution in which case the theory also suggests major geographical evolutions too.


What is this supposed to mean?

It's supposed to mean that according to evolution Cyprus was part of present day Turkey so any "apes" could’ve easily existed on Cyprus too before it "broke off"...


Hmmm... this sounds like a bit of pastourma, yarak on toast and Oracle sitting on a chair and gazing the Choirokitians. :lol:

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Postby Oracle » Wed Apr 15, 2009 1:21 am

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Get Real! wrote: :roll: Forget about sailing up and down the Mediterranean in 7 or 8,000BC!!! The first Choirokitians most likely landed on Cyprus on a raft from present day Syria or Lebanon.

Why forget about sailing? How did all those Polynesian Islands become inhabited, Australia, New Zealand etc ... and even earlier than 8,000BC.

Drifting on a raft is one thing and sailing about at will in 8,000BC is quite another. I can assure you that none of the first settlers of islands worldwide SAILED to it.


Well now you are just splitting hairs. I wasn't asserting they used navigational charts or such like, but they certainly used sea-worthy devices, enough to survive for thousands of miles of open sea, so the Mediterranean would have been a doddle for traversing!
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I don't know if it was just one raft (one family) that started it all or many of them.


Exactly ... because at some point 'the group' would have gotten large enough that a posse would have split off for pastures new. There are only a few major groups in Europe (recent present) and they all came from one major group leaving Africa via Egypt/Lebanon and surrounding areas. So we, the Greeks, the Italians, the Germans etc all came from these feeder populations!
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Postby Oracle » Wed Apr 15, 2009 1:26 am

Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote: As for apes, that’s based on the assumption of evolution in which case the theory also suggests major geographical evolutions too.


What is this supposed to mean?

It's supposed to mean that according to evolution Cyprus was part of present day Turkey so any "apes" could’ve easily existed on Cyprus too before it "broke off"...


Geologically challenged too, huh! :roll:

Cyprus didn't split from Asia Minor .... It was volcanic and was pushed up out of the sea by colliding plates. It's still getting pushed up.

OK OK :roll: ... I was about to tackle your next ridiculous point about a separate evolution from Apes specifically on Cyprus .... but I think you are just trying to impress insan so that you two can run off into the moonlight and make 12 babies! :roll:
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Apr 15, 2009 1:36 am

The first signs of man start in Ethiopia and they then worked their way up the Red sea to populate other areas like I’ve indicated on this map…

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Postby Oracle » Wed Apr 15, 2009 1:41 am

Get Real! wrote:The first signs of man start in Ethiopia and they then worked their way up the Red sea to populate other areas like I’ve indicated on this map…

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That's exactly what I've said for the major western feeding branch ...

There are only a few major groups in Europe (recent present) and they all came from one major group leaving Africa via Egypt/Lebanon and surrounding areas. So we, the Greeks, the Italians, the Germans etc all came from these feeder populations!


... Out of context here (but for the sake of completion); at around the Egypt point of migration, there is a common ancestor split with one half as you've indicated western-bound, and the other half going east.
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Apr 15, 2009 1:42 am

Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote: As for apes, that’s based on the assumption of evolution in which case the theory also suggests major geographical evolutions too.


What is this supposed to mean?

It's supposed to mean that according to evolution Cyprus was part of present day Turkey so any "apes" could’ve easily existed on Cyprus too before it "broke off"...


Geologically challenged too, huh! :roll:

Cyprus didn't split from Asia Minor .... It was volcanic and was pushed up out of the sea by colliding plates. It's still getting pushed up.

OK OK :roll: ... I was about to tackle your next ridiculous point about a separate evolution from Apes specifically on Cyprus .... but I think you are just trying to impress insan so that you two can run off into the moonlight and make 12 babies! :roll:

I’m not an evolutionist so I’m not going to argue any of that… I'll let them sort out their mess!
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Postby The Cypriot » Wed Apr 15, 2009 1:48 am

If they originated from Ethiopia then there's really nothing to argue about as it was and remains Greek orthodox.
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Apr 15, 2009 1:49 am

Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:The first signs of man start in Ethiopia and they then worked their way up the Red sea to populate other areas like I’ve indicated on this map…

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That's exactly what I've said for the major western feeding branch ...

There are only a few major groups in Europe (recent present) and they all came from one major group leaving Africa via Egypt/Lebanon and surrounding areas. So we, the Greeks, the Italians, the Germans etc all came from these feeder populations!


... Out of context here (but for the sake of completion); at around the Egypt point of migration, there is a common ancestor split with one half as you've indicated western-bound, and the other half going east.

Possible if "western-bound" means present day Algeria, Morocco, etc, but I hope you didn't mean Greece! :lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Apr 15, 2009 1:51 am

The Cypriot wrote:If they originated from Ethiopia then there's really nothing to argue about as it was and remains Greek orthodox.

:wink: So the whole world is Greek!
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