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[insan]

Oh ... and let's not forget that our northern friends are not the second largest "group" on the Island; the Ilegal Settlers shipped in by Jurkey and Donktosh have that title.

Settlers would like to thank GC and Greek leadership because they owe their existence in North to Hellenic ruling elite. For us TCs, settlers helped us a lot to at least keeping abt 90-100 thousands TCs in Cyprus. We thank settlers absorbing TC culture, way of life and keeping pace with us.

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Congratulations Insan for the funniest post of the day. Did you think you were posting in the Jokes Section?

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Ask any TC adults living in TRNC if u want to laugh forever.

[Viewpoint]

Everytime a new member joins this forum, the wheels go round and round. Arguments repeat itself.

As Insan said, there was the problem of two communities on the island (the major ones), one wanted Enosis and the other did not. Those that wanted Enosis did not give a piastre for what the other wanted. But that was in the past. We are here now, where do we go from here? Thats is the question. We cant turn history back. We are all Cypriots, whether Greek or Turkish, lets move on. Rolling Eyes

With all due respect, what gives you the right to disregard Armenian and Maronite Cypriots as a main community, when their combined numbers represent the same ratio to the Turkish Cypriot community, as the Turkish Cypriot community does to the Greek Cypriot community.

End of the day, if Greek Cypriots make up 80% odd of the islands population, and Turkish Cypriot about 18%, id say there is only one 'main community' and the others minority (if we are going to start talking about main communities). The numbers are there to see.

The only way we can move on is to have a single unified state, where each person has the same democratic rights as another, disregarding their ethnicity. Otherwise, the problems from the past will crop up once again.

They threw their lot in with you guys..

Have you forgotten vp that many of them were forced out at TMT gunpoint from their homes in north Hora. Surprised you seem to have forgotten the events of 63.

They have accepted minority status in a GC state we have not and will not thats the difference, you absorbed them so like it or not they have thrown their lot in with you GCs.

[Dr J]

Diaspora GCs have no idea abt Cyprus history since Ottomans, let alone knowing the TC history, social life and culture.

Is that a fact? lol

Are we also to believe that the Cypriot culture in the north is flourishing?

[The Cypriot]

Diaspora GCs have no idea abt Cyprus history since Ottomans, let alone knowing the TC history, social life and culture.

insan, you are living in an open prison, where over half the inmates are unsuspecting stooges while many of the rest have long since become institutionalised.

A prison where only by doing the wardens' bidding – and/or dealing in the black prison economy – can you hope to secure your basic needs.

A prison where there's a guard for every three to four inmates and where access to objective information on how the prison was constructed and is run has always been strictly controlled.

A prison where criticism of the regime and its methods is ruthlessly stamped out; where unruly inmates have been attacked, some even receiving the death sentence, without trial.

A prison where many who had integrity and gumption used their get-out-of-jail-free card long ago to escape into the real world; with real opportunities and real freedoms.

You sit there in your open prison – serving a sentence that has lasted 35 years and counting – and you tell Cypriots of the diaspora; who are free from threats, intimidation, or accusations of 'traitor'; who are far from the metaphorical stench that your prison generates, and who have the knowledge of the whole world at their disposal, and you tell them they have no idea about the history of the island, since Ottoman times.

But it is you, insan, who has no idea; who believes you are still living in Ottoman times.

In your open prison; and the prison the wardens have constructed inside your closed mind.

[Dr J]

They have accepted minority status in a GC state we have not and will not thats the difference, you absorbed them so like it or not they have thrown their lot in with you GCs.

No Viewpoint, where you go wrong is Armenian and Maronite Cypriots dont see themselves as Greek Cypriots but as Armenian and Maronites of Cyprus.

Where they have joined Greek Cypriots is that they agree to being a part of a democratic Cypriot nation, where each person has the same rights as another - THATS where they have bundled in with 'us lot'. Unlike the Turkish Cypriots like yourselves who want privealege status.

Thats the difference you see, Armenian and Maronite Cypriots have respect for the common Cypriot culture, where Turkish Cypriots like you want to eradicate Cypriotism for Turkification in the north.

[insan]

Diaspora GCs have no idea abt Cyprus history since Ottomans, let alone knowing the TC history, social life and culture.

insan, you are living in an open prison, where over half the inmates are unsuspecting stooges while many of the rest have long since become institutionalised.

A prison where only by doing the wardens' bidding – and/or dealing in the black prison economy – can you hope to secure your basic needs.

A prison where there's a guard for every three to four inmates and where access to objective informatation on how the prison was constructed and is run has always been strictly controlled.

A prison where criticism of the regime and its methods is ruthlessly stamped out; where unruly inmates have been attacked, some even receiving the death sentence, without trial.

A prison where many who had integrity and gumption used their get-out-of-jail-free card long ago to escape into the real world; with real opportunities and real freedoms.

You sit there in your open prison – serving a sentence that has lasted 35 years and counting – and you tell Cypriots of the diaspora; who are free from threats, intimidation, or accusations of 'traitor'; who are far from the metaphorical stench that your prison generates, and who have the knowledge of the whole world at their disposal, and you tell them they have no idea about the history of the island, since Ottoman times.

But it is you, insan, who has no idea; who believes you are still living in Ottoman times.

In your open prison; and the prison the wardens have constructed inside your closed mind.

The Cypriot, I well know where I live. GC & Greek duo with help of other interests groups of world; such as US, Russia and China created this "prison" for us TCs.

Don't confuse critisizing someone or any institution democratically with insulting or working for the interests of Russia to destabilize NATO alliance. Moreover, u need to get the ability of distinguishing and blameing only the criminals of any institution and not to blame the whole institution just bcz it fits u. To be able to do this; first of all u need to get rid of ur pre-judices against ur "enemies".

How did u get the impression that I live in Ottoman times?

[insan]

They have accepted minority status in a GC state we have not and will not thats the difference, you absorbed them so like it or not they have thrown their lot in with you GCs.

No Viewpoint, where you go wrong is Armenian and Maronite Cypriots dont see themselves as Greek Cypriots but as Armenian and Maronites of Cyprus.

Where they have joined Greek Cypriots is that they agree to being a part of a democratic Cypriot nation, where each person has the same rights as another - THATS where they have bundled in with 'us lot'. Unlike the Turkish Cypriots like yourselves who want privealege status.

Thats the difference you see, Armenian and Maronite Cypriots have respect for the common Cypriot culture, where Turkish Cypriots like you want to eradicate Cypriotism for Turkification in the north.

Had there been 2% or 3% TCs in Cyprus they would accept the minority status since the British rule. The fact is TC were 1/3 of Cyprus population in the begining of British Rule. Begining of the British Rule is the time for us TCs that the problem started.

[The Cypriot]

The Cypriot, I well know where I live. GC & Greek duo with help of other interests groups of world; such as US, Russia and China created this "prison" for us TCs.

I mean you no malice, insan. You know that. And I am aware of the role others have played in the creation of your "prison". And I am interested in securing your release.

Don't confuse critisizing someone or any institution democratically with insulting or working for the interests of Russia to destabilize NATO alliance.

I'm sorry, gardash. I don't follow.

Moreover, u need to get the ability of distinguishing and blameing only the criminals of any institution and not to blame the whole institution just bcz it fits u. To be able to do this; first of all u need to get rid of ur pre-judices against ur "enemies".

You are not my enemy; nor any of the unsuspecting inmates.

How did u get the impression that I live in Ottoman times?

Some of your posts give me the impression that you are an apologist for the perpetuators of that empire in Cyprus.

[Dr J]

Had there been 2% or 3% TCs in Cyprus they would accept the minority status since the British rule. The fact is TC were 1/3 of Cyprus population in the begining of British Rule. Begining of the British Rule is the time for us TCs that the problem started.

haha and why is that Insan, because your fascist ego could not take that you were no longer overloads of the natives??

[Viewpoint]

They have accepted minority status in a GC state we have not and will not thats the difference, you absorbed them so like it or not they have thrown their lot in with you GCs.

No Viewpoint, where you go wrong is Armenian and Maronite Cypriots dont see themselves as Greek Cypriots but as Armenian and Maronites of Cyprus.

Where they have joined Greek Cypriots is that they agree to being a part of a democratic Cypriot nation, where each person has the same rights as another - THATS where they have bundled in with 'us lot'. Unlike the Turkish Cypriots like yourselves who want privealege status.

Thats the difference you see, Armenian and Maronite Cypriots have respect for the common Cypriot culture, where Turkish Cypriots like you want to eradicate Cypriotism for Turkification in the north.

So to put it more clearly you have sucessfully assimilated them, they went freely but on the other hand we stood our ground and fought back and will always fight for the right not to capitulate to GC dominance and persecution. They why a BBF is necessary and this is what we fought for the Armenians and Maronites did not lift a finger to help us they capitulated to you from day 1 so now they have no right to claim what we have fought and will continue to fight for.