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Turkish Cypriot attitudes to Cypriotism

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Are Turkish Cypriots ready to abandon their Turkish Culture and adopt Cypriotism?

a). I'm Turkish Cypriot who is happy to adopt Cypriotism but not at the expense of my Turkish Culture and Inheritance,
4
40%
b). I'm Turkish Cypriot who will never adopt Cypriotism but only maintain my Turkishness,
1
10%
c). I'm Turkish Cypriot and believe that Cypriotism is a cunning plan to ASSIMULATE all Turkish Cypriots, or
2
20%
d). I'm Turkish Cypriot and believe that Cypriotism is an anti TC racist ploy.
3
30%
 
Total votes : 10

Postby Get Real! » Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:04 pm

Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Nobody ever doubted that there are half-baked Cypriots of Turkish background! :roll:

The question everyone should be asking is why isn’t there a…

“I'm Turkish Cypriot who is happy to adopt Cypriotism and WILL HAPPILY DENOUNCE TURKISHNESS!”

…option to distinguish patriots???

Because Pahitoui is an EOKA-B arsehole that's why!


He covered that one with ....

(a) I'm Turkish Cypriot who is happy to adopt Cypriotism but not at the expense of my Turkish Culture and Inheritance.

... saliently the same!

What are you stupid or something? Are these two the same?

Essentially, they are the same. Explain how they are NOT!

If the “Turkish Culture and Inheritance” is NOT expendable then how can it possibly be the same as denouncing it???

By the very act of not viewing it as expendable, one does not denounce it, hence saliently the same in this context ... unless you are an arsehole who does not expend nor denounce his false position!

Image Sorry Oracle, but its English 01 for you…

de•nounce

1. To condemn openly as being evil or reprehensible. See Synonyms at criticize.
2. To accuse formally.
3. To give formal announcement of the ending of (a treaty).

http://education.yahoo.com/reference/di ... y/denounce

I now ask… is it possible to denounce something (in this case Turkishness) yet retain it?


The question was not about 'retaining' it ... but at the 'expense' of which is akin to 'denouncing' it ... Perhaps your Aussie English dialect is self-limiting!

Study the NOT operator for a while and then come back and I'll test you...

http://www.xcprod.com/titan/XCSB-DOC/logical_not.html
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Postby Lit » Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:07 pm

Get Real! wrote:
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Get Real! wrote:Nobody ever doubted that there are half-baked Cypriots of Turkish background! :roll:


I think you are being rude to Halil and this is someone you had the pleasure of meeting (or am i mistaken?). He gave you his honest opinion and i would say the vast overwhelming majority of the TCs agree with him.

I've called Halil far worse than that! :lol: In fact I've been too nice to him lately... :?

More than he deserves anyway...


Fair enough. I was thinking since you met the guy, you'd be on better terms.
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Postby Oracle » Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:09 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Nobody ever doubted that there are half-baked Cypriots of Turkish background! :roll:

The question everyone should be asking is why isn’t there a…

“I'm Turkish Cypriot who is happy to adopt Cypriotism and WILL HAPPILY DENOUNCE TURKISHNESS!”

…option to distinguish patriots???

Because Pahitoui is an EOKA-B arsehole that's why!


He covered that one with ....

(a) I'm Turkish Cypriot who is happy to adopt Cypriotism but not at the expense of my Turkish Culture and Inheritance.

... saliently the same!

What are you stupid or something? Are these two the same?

Essentially, they are the same. Explain how they are NOT!

If the “Turkish Culture and Inheritance” is NOT expendable then how can it possibly be the same as denouncing it???

By the very act of not viewing it as expendable, one does not denounce it, hence saliently the same in this context ... unless you are an arsehole who does not expend nor denounce his false position!

Image Sorry Oracle, but its English 01 for you…

de•nounce

1. To condemn openly as being evil or reprehensible. See Synonyms at criticize.
2. To accuse formally.
3. To give formal announcement of the ending of (a treaty).

http://education.yahoo.com/reference/di ... y/denounce

I now ask… is it possible to denounce something (in this case Turkishness) yet retain it?


The question was not about 'retaining' it ... but at the 'expense' of which is akin to 'denouncing' it ... Perhaps your Aussie English dialect is self-limiting!

Study the NOT operator for a while and then come back and I'll test you...

http://www.xcprod.com/titan/XCSB-DOC/logical_not.html


Perhaps it's syntax you need to work on, since human language does not function like your computer ... but in a semantic exchange between interlocutors ... my dear!
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Postby Kikapu » Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:20 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Can someone tell me exactly what the TC's and the GC's were called under the British Rule before the 1960 independence of Cyprus, please.!

Shut up fruit basket! :lol:


It did not answer my question, so would you, GR, or anyone else, please tell me what the different communities in Cyprus were called before 1960. As always, there is a reason as to why I'm asking this question.!
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Postby insan » Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:21 pm

Lit wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Nobody ever doubted that there are half-baked Cypriots of Turkish background! :roll:

The question everyone should be asking is why isn’t there a…

“I'm Turkish Cypriot who is happy to adopt Cypriotism and WILL HAPPILY DENOUNCE TURKISHNESS!”

…option to distinguish patriots???

Because Pahitoui is an EOKA-B arsehole that's why!


He covered that one with ....

(a) I'm Turkish Cypriot who is happy to adopt Cypriotism but not at the expense of my Turkish Culture and Inheritance.

... saliently the same!

What are you stupid or something? Are these two the same?

Essentially, they are the same. Explain how they are NOT!

If the “Turkish Culture and Inheritance” is NOT expendable then how can it possibly be the same as denouncing it???

By the very act of not viewing it as expendable, one does not denounce it, hence saliently the same in this context ... unless you are an arsehole who does not expend nor denounce his false position!

Image Sorry Oracle, but its English 01 for you…

de•nounce

1. To condemn openly as being evil or reprehensible. See Synonyms at


You think they're TCs in this forum who see Turkishness as being evil or reprehensible? You are truly living in a dream world. Is there any TC who agrees with GR? Is any TC here going to denounce their Turkishness to adopt Cypriotism?


Only TC far left has denounced their Turkishness so far and adopted Cypriotness. However their Cypriotness is not how u expected. Neither of the heroes of Greek speaking Cypriots r nonsidered as the national heroes of Cyprus by TC far left. :lol: R they still Cypriots according to Greek speaking Cypriots?
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:23 pm

Lit wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Lit wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Nobody ever doubted that there are half-baked Cypriots of Turkish background! :roll:


I think you are being rude to Halil and this is someone you had the pleasure of meeting (or am i mistaken?). He gave you his honest opinion and i would say the vast overwhelming majority of the TCs agree with him.

I've called Halil far worse than that! :lol: In fact I've been too nice to him lately... :?

More than he deserves anyway...

Fair enough. I was thinking since you met the guy, you'd be on better terms.

Why is that? I see DT often and still think he's an idiot... :?
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Postby Lit » Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:29 pm

insan wrote:
Lit wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Nobody ever doubted that there are half-baked Cypriots of Turkish background! :roll:

The question everyone should be asking is why isn’t there a…

“I'm Turkish Cypriot who is happy to adopt Cypriotism and WILL HAPPILY DENOUNCE TURKISHNESS!”

…option to distinguish patriots???

Because Pahitoui is an EOKA-B arsehole that's why!


He covered that one with ....

(a) I'm Turkish Cypriot who is happy to adopt Cypriotism but not at the expense of my Turkish Culture and Inheritance.

... saliently the same!

What are you stupid or something? Are these two the same?

Essentially, they are the same. Explain how they are NOT!

If the “Turkish Culture and Inheritance” is NOT expendable then how can it possibly be the same as denouncing it???

By the very act of not viewing it as expendable, one does not denounce it, hence saliently the same in this context ... unless you are an arsehole who does not expend nor denounce his false position!

Image Sorry Oracle, but its English 01 for you…

de•nounce

1. To condemn openly as being evil or reprehensible. See Synonyms at


You think they're TCs in this forum who see Turkishness as being evil or reprehensible? You are truly living in a dream world. Is there any TC who agrees with GR? Is any TC here going to denounce their Turkishness to adopt Cypriotism?


Only TC far left has denounced their Turkishness so far and adopted Cypriotness. However their Cypriotness is not how u expected. Neither of the heroes of Greek speaking Cypriots r nonsidered as the national heroes of Cyprus by TC far left. :lol: R they still Cypriots according to Greek speaking Cypriots?


Insan, do you denounce your Turkishness to adopt Cypriotism? Its a yes or no question.
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:36 pm

Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Study the NOT operator for a while and then come back and I'll test you...

http://www.xcprod.com/titan/XCSB-DOC/logical_not.html


Perhaps it's syntax you need to work on, since human language does not function like your computer ... but in a semantic exchange between interlocutors ... my dear!

Exercise #1 for Oracle:

PROGRAM Patriot;
VAR Expendable,Denounce,Turkishness:Boolean;
BEGIN
Expendable:=False;
Denounce:=True;
Turkishness:=True;
IF (Turkishness=NOT(expendable)) = Denounce THEN
Writeln('Son of a bitch!') ELSE Writeln('God damn!');
END.
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:37 pm

Not many TCs voting here....where r u Miltiades? thought u said msot TCs supported your Cypriotism?
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:38 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Can someone tell me exactly what the TC's and the GC's were called under the British Rule before the 1960 independence of Cyprus, please.!

Shut up fruit basket! :lol:


It did not answer my question, so would you, GR, or anyone else, please tell me what the different communities in Cyprus were called before 1960. As always, there is a reason as to why I'm asking this question.!

The GC/TC thing was invented by the British much earlier than that for obvious reasons if that's what you're asking...
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