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Turkish Cypriot attitudes to Cypriotism

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Are Turkish Cypriots ready to abandon their Turkish Culture and adopt Cypriotism?

a). I'm Turkish Cypriot who is happy to adopt Cypriotism but not at the expense of my Turkish Culture and Inheritance,
4
40%
b). I'm Turkish Cypriot who will never adopt Cypriotism but only maintain my Turkishness,
1
10%
c). I'm Turkish Cypriot and believe that Cypriotism is a cunning plan to ASSIMULATE all Turkish Cypriots, or
2
20%
d). I'm Turkish Cypriot and believe that Cypriotism is an anti TC racist ploy.
3
30%
 
Total votes : 10

Postby Oracle » Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:39 am

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Turkish has been the scourge of Cyprus. It should be confined to the back-burner. We only need one unifying official language and by default, due to the prevailing (thousands of years) majority dialect being Greek, so it should be standardised ...

I am sure a reasonable sounding person like yourself would endorse this ....


But surely, as a reasonable sounding person like yourself, you must realise that the unifying language of the Imperialists (and the lingua franca of the western world) is a far, far better medium through which to cross rhetorical swords with a fellow Cypriot, O?

I mean, how would you have got the above particular gem across to Omer, in Greek?


I was talking about the Official (unifying, national) specific language of Cyprus being Greek as it has been for thousands of years.

The general language of the Internet is undeniably English and will most likely continue to be so .... used by over a Billion people.


England was forced to use French for 300 years or so but English won over again as the National Language. A Nation does not need two Official languages. We too were forced to accommodate Turkish and it simply did not work .....
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Postby The Cypriot » Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:52 am

Oracle wrote:
I was talking about the Official (unifying, national) specific language of Cyprus being Greek as it has been for thousands of years.


Good thing the Yanks just opted for English in the end. Can you imagine all those Hollywood movies in Apache...?

Oracle wrote:The general language of the Internet is undeniably English and will most likely continue to be so .... used by over a Billion people.


Exactly. Makes sense to adopt English as a unifying language.

Oracle wrote:England was forced to use French for 300 years or so but English won over again as the National Language. A Nation does not need two Official languages. We too were forced to accommodate Turkish and it simply did not work .....


A bechu is gonna be Engleziga, O.
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Postby Omer Seyhan » Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:02 am

Oracle wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Turkish has been the scourge of Cyprus. It should be confined to the back-burner. We only need one unifying official language and by default, due to the prevailing (thousands of years) majority dialect being Greek, so it should be standardised ...

I am sure a reasonable sounding person like yourself would endorse this ....


But surely, as a reasonable sounding person like yourself, you must realise that the unifying language of the Imperialists (and the lingua franca of the western world) is a far, far better medium through which to cross rhetorical swords with a fellow Cypriot, O?

I mean, how would you have got the above particular gem across to Omer, in Greek?


I was talking about the Official (unifying, national) specific language of Cyprus being Greek as it has been for thousands of years.

The general language of the Internet is undeniably English and will most likely continue to be so .... used by over a Billion people.


England was forced to use French for 300 years or so but English won over again as the National Language. A Nation does not need two Official languages. We too were forced to accommodate Turkish and it simply did not work .....



1. Modern English would not exist without its Norman French borrowings. Try reading Beowulf in Old English - its nothing like Modern English.

2. Why can't a country have two or more official languages? Indeed many many countries do and it works well.
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Postby boomerang » Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:17 am

insan wrote:Cypriotism in Cyprus is just an utopic dream. It could only be obtained by natural evolution. One of the most important, positive triggering element of Cypriotism is more Cypriots Bananiot alike and less "Cypriots" Paphitis, GR, Oracle, BoomDumbAzzy, Jerry, Piratis, TPap, Makarios and Chris alike. The other most important triggering effect for Cypriotism could be strong economic, cultural and military alliances/ties between Turkey and Greece.


Of cource you don't titty man, it's quite understable...coz
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if you actually bothered in coming out for fresh air more often than then, you will see how your above comment is made by a pseudo-intellectual... :lol:

Tell you what titty man happy to swap kiks for bananiot any day...coz at the end of the day kiks is a strong defender of human rights rather than the pathetic views of bananiot that are willing to lead us into another quagmire...
Also you share the same vision...us on our side and you on your side... 8)
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Postby insan » Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:24 am

boomerang wrote:
insan wrote:Cypriotism in Cyprus is just an utopic dream. It could only be obtained by natural evolution. One of the most important, positive triggering element of Cypriotism is more Cypriots Bananiot alike and less "Cypriots" Paphitis, GR, Oracle, BoomDumbAzzy, Jerry, Piratis, TPap, Makarios and Chris alike. The other most important triggering effect for Cypriotism could be strong economic, cultural and military alliances/ties between Turkey and Greece.


Of cource you don't titty man, it's quite understable...coz
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if you actually bothered in coming out for fresh air more often than then, you will see how your above comment is made by a pseudo-intellectual... :lol:

Tell you what titty man happy to swap kiks for bananiot any day...coz at the end of the day kiks is a strong defender of human rights rather than the pathetic views of bananiot that are willing to lead us into another quagmire...
Also you share the same vision...us on our side and you on your side... 8)


Dumbazzy man went berserk again. :lol: I'm sure democracy and ur shietty mind is 2 totally opposite things. :lol: I'm afraid I will cause u a heart attack one day. :lol: Who r ur national heroes and national idols, dumbazzy man? Fascist Grivas? Makarios? Sampson? TPap? Rossides? :lol:
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Postby boomerang » Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:35 am

insan wrote:
boomerang wrote:
insan wrote:Cypriotism in Cyprus is just an utopic dream. It could only be obtained by natural evolution. One of the most important, positive triggering element of Cypriotism is more Cypriots Bananiot alike and less "Cypriots" Paphitis, GR, Oracle, BoomDumbAzzy, Jerry, Piratis, TPap, Makarios and Chris alike. The other most important triggering effect for Cypriotism could be strong economic, cultural and military alliances/ties between Turkey and Greece.


Of cource you don't titty man, it's quite understable...coz
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if you actually bothered in coming out for fresh air more often than then, you will see how your above comment is made by a pseudo-intellectual... :lol:

Tell you what titty man happy to swap kiks for bananiot any day...coz at the end of the day kiks is a strong defender of human rights rather than the pathetic views of bananiot that are willing to lead us into another quagmire...
Also you share the same vision...us on our side and you on your side... 8)


Dumbazzy man went berserk again. :lol: I'm sure democracy and ur shietty mind is 2 totally opposite things. :lol: I'm afraid I will cause u a heart attack one day. :lol: Who r ur national heroes and national idols, dumbazzy man? Fascist Grivas? Makarios? Sampson? TPap? Rossides? :lol:


You gonna give me a lesson in democracy you say...coz you lived it, breathed it, practice it?...and in your little twisted miniscule mind you worked it all out?...titty man what can I say you are a legend...yes a legend in your own mind if I may be permitted in saying so... :lol:

well you having a mind really is another open for dissection topic starter...but I am afraid we will come out empty... :lol:

For gods sake either evolve or stop typing with knuckles....Show me a sign of learned steps towards evolution titty man... :lol:
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Postby Oracle » Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:36 am

Omer Seyhan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Turkish has been the scourge of Cyprus. It should be confined to the back-burner. We only need one unifying official language and by default, due to the prevailing (thousands of years) majority dialect being Greek, so it should be standardised ...

I am sure a reasonable sounding person like yourself would endorse this ....


But surely, as a reasonable sounding person like yourself, you must realise that the unifying language of the Imperialists (and the lingua franca of the western world) is a far, far better medium through which to cross rhetorical swords with a fellow Cypriot, O?

I mean, how would you have got the above particular gem across to Omer, in Greek?


I was talking about the Official (unifying, national) specific language of Cyprus being Greek as it has been for thousands of years.

The general language of the Internet is undeniably English and will most likely continue to be so .... used by over a Billion people.


England was forced to use French for 300 years or so but English won over again as the National Language. A Nation does not need two Official languages. We too were forced to accommodate Turkish and it simply did not work .....



1. Modern English would not exist without its Norman French borrowings. Try reading Beowulf in Old English - its nothing like Modern English.

2. Why can't a country have two or more official languages? Indeed many many countries do and it works well.


This is where Greek and English differ significantly and the reason why Greek should be preserved for daily as well as Official use. (But with a few key linguistic facts ... one can make sense of Beowulf :wink: )

Unlike English, modern Greek is one of the few (maybe only) languages which has not had to undergo such radical codification changes and borrowings from other languages (Germanic, Latin etc) to become elaborate enough for general use.

Yes there are other countries with more than one official language, but those languages existed there as part of the native ethnic peoples for nearly a few thousand years ... However, we had Turkish imposed on us as an official language, artificially (via colonial invasion), and with a very recent introduction.

Besides unlike German, French, Italian which have common roots (Proto-Indo-European), hence share a bonding rational commonality ... Turkish and Greek have no such common ancestry, and hence are less likely to be compatible co-existing as a unifying force ... they are not! Case proven! We only need ONE Official Language in Cyprus.

Back to Greek and common sense, please ....
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Postby Oracle » Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:02 am

The Cypriot wrote:A bechu is gonna be Engleziga, O.


You too are confusing the practical necessity of a Global Computer Language ... which is based on standardised English (we agree!) .... with the Human need for local varieties of communication, regional dialects as well as national identifiers, for recording Legislature etc. Or do you think France will adopt English as its Official Constitutional Language anytime soon :lol:

Someone told me the other day, that no one actually spoke Latin ... that it was purely a graphic/written language, and the Romans, inter alia, just spoke various dialects of Italian, all along .... (Must Google that :? ... in English! :wink: )
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:27 am

Oracle wrote:
Omer Seyhan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Turkish has been the scourge of Cyprus. It should be confined to the back-burner. We only need one unifying official language and by default, due to the prevailing (thousands of years) majority dialect being Greek, so it should be standardised ...

I am sure a reasonable sounding person like yourself would endorse this ....


But surely, as a reasonable sounding person like yourself, you must realise that the unifying language of the Imperialists (and the lingua franca of the western world) is a far, far better medium through which to cross rhetorical swords with a fellow Cypriot, O?

I mean, how would you have got the above particular gem across to Omer, in Greek?


I was talking about the Official (unifying, national) specific language of Cyprus being Greek as it has been for thousands of years.

The general language of the Internet is undeniably English and will most likely continue to be so .... used by over a Billion people.


England was forced to use French for 300 years or so but English won over again as the National Language. A Nation does not need two Official languages. We too were forced to accommodate Turkish and it simply did not work .....



1. Modern English would not exist without its Norman French borrowings. Try reading Beowulf in Old English - its nothing like Modern English.

2. Why can't a country have two or more official languages? Indeed many many countries do and it works well.


This is where Greek and English differ significantly and the reason why Greek should be preserved for daily as well as Official use. (But with a few key linguistic facts ... one can make sense of Beowulf :wink: )

Unlike English, modern Greek is one of the few (maybe only) languages which has not had to undergo such radical codification changes and borrowings from other languages (Germanic, Latin etc) to become elaborate enough for general use.

Yes there are other countries with more than one official language, but those languages existed there as part of the native ethnic peoples for nearly a few thousand years ... However, we had Turkish imposed on us as an official language, artificially (via colonial invasion), and with a very recent introduction.

Besides unlike German, French, Italian which have common roots (Proto-Indo-European), hence share a bonding rational commonality ... Turkish and Greek have no such common ancestry, and hence are less likely to be compatible co-existing as a unifying force ... they are not! Case proven! We only need ONE Official Language in Cyprus.

Back to Greek and common sense, please ....



Hi dearest O, since you are so keen for good intercourse between the two communities, why not have English as the matrix beteen us. Mostly mutually understood. Problem solved.
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Postby The Cypriot » Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:48 am

Oracle wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:A bechu is gonna be Engleziga, O.


You too are confusing the practical necessity of a Global Computer Language ... which is based on standardised English (we agree!) .... with the Human need for local varieties of communication, regional dialects as well as national identifiers,


People will continue to speak their version of the Cypriot idiom in their region; in the home. It can even be standardised if there's demand. (In fact there's some work being done in this area).

http://wikipriaka.com/cy

Some may speak this, as well as Gibrizlija. But to get on in the world, after unification, they will adopt English. Don't fight it Oracle. It will happen. It's common sense.

Oracle wrote:for recording Legislature etc.


English all the way. All business will be conducted in English for expediency after reunification. Indeed this already happens, in the larger international institutions. In the tourist sector, hotels, in restaurants...

Oracle wrote:Or do you think France will adopt English as its Official Constitutional Language anytime soon :lol:


Pommes et oranges, ma petite Oracule!

Oracle wrote: Someone told me the other day, that no one actually spoke Latin ... that it was purely a graphic/written language, and the Romans, inter alia, just spoke various dialects of Italian, all along .... (Must Google that :? ... in English! :wink: )


I can believe that. The same can be said I expect for koine in the eastern Med. But today's lingua franca is Engish. And Cypriots will adopt it, as they once adopted koine...
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