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Turkish Cypriot attitudes to Cypriotism

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Are Turkish Cypriots ready to abandon their Turkish Culture and adopt Cypriotism?

a). I'm Turkish Cypriot who is happy to adopt Cypriotism but not at the expense of my Turkish Culture and Inheritance,
4
40%
b). I'm Turkish Cypriot who will never adopt Cypriotism but only maintain my Turkishness,
1
10%
c). I'm Turkish Cypriot and believe that Cypriotism is a cunning plan to ASSIMULATE all Turkish Cypriots, or
2
20%
d). I'm Turkish Cypriot and believe that Cypriotism is an anti TC racist ploy.
3
30%
 
Total votes : 10

Postby Get Real! » Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:25 am

Lit wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Lit wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote: ... but next to nothing between indigenous Cypriots and Greece unless of course Greek mythologies are to be taken into account, ....

Xerokefalos! :roll:

What is it you fail to grasp about the predominance of archaic Greek DNA markers in the general population of the Mediterranean today (Sicily to Spain) ... and the special prevalence between Greeks and Cypriots?

Oracle, I’m a man of facts & figures which is why I never read novels or watch movies, so what archaic Greek DNA markers and green horses are you talking about gori? Have you any idea how many times the Slavic people had overrun the ancient Greeks? :roll:

When did the Slavs arrive in the Balkans?

That’s no different to asking when the Greeks arrived on the Balkans because ancient Greece was populated from the top down! :lol:


Idiot. Alexander the Great, lived fully 1000 years before the Slavs arrived in the Balkans.

Is that according to Greek mythology sites? :lol:

"Historically they are also known as Enetoi and have inhabited the entire region of Balkans, north of Greece, Northern Itally, Hungary, Romania, Austria, Bavaria, Northern Switzerland, Czech and Slovak Repulics Poland and central Germany all the way to today's Hamburg. The Slavs have inhabited this region since about 1500 B.C., and inhabit about 75 percent of that region to this day."

http://slovio.com/origin/index.html
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:27 am

DT. wrote:
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DT. wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Lit wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Lit wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Nobody ever doubted that there are half-baked Cypriots of Turkish background! :roll:


I think you are being rude to Halil and this is someone you had the pleasure of meeting (or am i mistaken?). He gave you his honest opinion and i would say the vast overwhelming majority of the TCs agree with him.

I've called Halil far worse than that! :lol: In fact I've been too nice to him lately... :?

More than he deserves anyway...

Fair enough. I was thinking since you met the guy, you'd be on better terms.

Why is that? I see DT often and still think he's an idiot... :?


Just because I see you often I give everyone the right to call me an idiot.

Well thanks for letting them know... I'm sure they'll do it more often now! :lol:

eshis hari pou trwo ta makarounia mou twra...

Berki enda shesis... :lol:
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Postby DT. » Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:29 am

Get Real! wrote:
DT. wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
DT. wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Lit wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Lit wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Nobody ever doubted that there are half-baked Cypriots of Turkish background! :roll:


I think you are being rude to Halil and this is someone you had the pleasure of meeting (or am i mistaken?). He gave you his honest opinion and i would say the vast overwhelming majority of the TCs agree with him.

I've called Halil far worse than that! :lol: In fact I've been too nice to him lately... :?

More than he deserves anyway...

Fair enough. I was thinking since you met the guy, you'd be on better terms.

Why is that? I see DT often and still think he's an idiot... :?


Just because I see you often I give everyone the right to call me an idiot.

Well thanks for letting them know... I'm sure they'll do it more often now! :lol:

eshis hari pou trwo ta makarounia mou twra...

Berki enda shesis... :lol:


:lol: en na ta kratw ospou na erto esou sou re pikifrino.
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Postby insan » Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:29 am

The Cypriot wrote:
insan wrote:
So what do u think abt TMT?


They killed two of my heroes. What do you think I thinkk?


insan wrote: Don't u like any poets or singers of the Turkish speaking Cypriots?


How can I like them if no Cypriot has ever taken the trouble to introduce me to them?


Did u read the story of Kavazoglu, how he was backstabbed by AKEL and became a "traitor" in the eyes and minds of TCs?

http://www.observercyprus.com/observer/ ... px?id=2771

First of all, as a Cypriot u claim u r(I don't know how old u r and when u decided to be a Cyptiot.) and knowing abt Kavazoglu, at least I expected that u have already googled abt the arts and artists of Turkish speaking Cypriots. Even I expected u to speak and write Turkish to a degree. I too don't know much abt the arts and artists of GCs but know and like some artists(Kavafy, Vangelis and some others) from Greece.

The link to my thread regarding Cypriotness:

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=23221
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Postby Oracle » Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:30 am

Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote: ... but next to nothing between indigenous Cypriots and Greece unless of course Greek mythologies are to be taken into account, ....

Xerokefalos! :roll:

What is it you fail to grasp about the predominance of archaic Greek DNA markers in the general population of the Mediterranean today (Sicily to Spain) ... and the special prevalence between Greeks and Cypriots?

Oracle, I’m a man of facts & figures which is why I never read novels or watch movies, so what archaic Greek DNA markers and green horses are you talking about gori? Have you any idea how many times the Slavic people had overrun the ancient Greeks? :roll:


I've presented this stuff to you before and you just ignore it .... preferring your own made-up imaginings ...


A striking demonstration of the persistence of the Greek genetic signature through time can be found in [1].

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The figure on the right is the 4th principal component of variation in Europe and shows a strong cline centered in Greece. Not only is the Greek genetic legacy clearly detectible today, but it is detectible among not only the Greeks, but all their neighboring populations of partial Greek ancestry:


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http://dienekes.110mb.com/articles/hellenes/

Angel noted that from the earliest times to the present “racial continuity in Greece is striking.” Buxton [30] who had earlier studied Greek skeletal material and measured modern Greeks, especially in Cyprus, finds that the modern Greeks “possess physical characteristics not differing essentially from those of the former [ancient Greeks].”
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Postby The Cypriot » Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:30 am

denizaksulu wrote:
The way one votes does not take away whatever he feels he is. Either way he is a Turkish Cypriot. You are too patronising.


I wasn't being patronising. I genuinely couldn't remember. But now I've checked and he voted for partition.


denizaksulu wrote:Shame really. I was beginning to warm up to you.


Sorry, Deniz. How can someone who supports the dismemberment of his country be classed as a Cypriot. A Turkish Cypriot, yes. Like VP. But Cypriot. Sorry. No.

You voted for real unity. You are a real Cypriot.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:31 am

DT. wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
DT. wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
DT. wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Lit wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Lit wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Nobody ever doubted that there are half-baked Cypriots of Turkish background! :roll:


I think you are being rude to Halil and this is someone you had the pleasure of meeting (or am i mistaken?). He gave you his honest opinion and i would say the vast overwhelming majority of the TCs agree with him.

I've called Halil far worse than that! :lol: In fact I've been too nice to him lately... :?

More than he deserves anyway...

Fair enough. I was thinking since you met the guy, you'd be on better terms.

Why is that? I see DT often and still think he's an idiot... :?


Just because I see you often I give everyone the right to call me an idiot.

Well thanks for letting them know... I'm sure they'll do it more often now! :lol:

eshis hari pou trwo ta makarounia mou twra...

Berki enda shesis... :lol:

:lol: en na ta kratw ospou na erto esou sou re pikifrino.

Re, eferes ta baboutsia tis mitchias re tsie ebellanen me!!! :roll:
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Postby insan » Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:32 am

denizaksulu wrote:
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The Cypriot wrote:Thanks. But can you let us Cypriots decide on our own qualifications please.


Just like GR, when he would try to take our Cypriotness away from us. :roll:


I said 'us' deniz, I include you... if you want to be included.


Insan too is a Cypriot, a Turkish Cypriot, unless I am mistaken.


Yes. I'm a Turkish Cypriot. I have just one of the qualifications of being a plain Cypriot.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=23221
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Postby DT. » Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:33 am

Get Real! wrote:
DT. wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
DT. wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
DT. wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Lit wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Lit wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Nobody ever doubted that there are half-baked Cypriots of Turkish background! :roll:


I think you are being rude to Halil and this is someone you had the pleasure of meeting (or am i mistaken?). He gave you his honest opinion and i would say the vast overwhelming majority of the TCs agree with him.

I've called Halil far worse than that! :lol: In fact I've been too nice to him lately... :?

More than he deserves anyway...

Fair enough. I was thinking since you met the guy, you'd be on better terms.

Why is that? I see DT often and still think he's an idiot... :?


Just because I see you often I give everyone the right to call me an idiot.

Well thanks for letting them know... I'm sure they'll do it more often now! :lol:

eshis hari pou trwo ta makarounia mou twra...

Berki enda shesis... :lol:

:lol: en na ta kratw ospou na erto esou sou re pikifrino.

Re, eferes ta baboutsia tis mitchias re tsie ebellanen me!!! :roll:


WIll be back Friday.

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Postby Lit » Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:34 am

Get Real! wrote:
Lit wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Lit wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote: ... but next to nothing between indigenous Cypriots and Greece unless of course Greek mythologies are to be taken into account, ....

Xerokefalos! :roll:

What is it you fail to grasp about the predominance of archaic Greek DNA markers in the general population of the Mediterranean today (Sicily to Spain) ... and the special prevalence between Greeks and Cypriots?

Oracle, I’m a man of facts & figures which is why I never read novels or watch movies, so what archaic Greek DNA markers and green horses are you talking about gori? Have you any idea how many times the Slavic people had overrun the ancient Greeks? :roll:

When did the Slavs arrive in the Balkans?

That’s no different to asking when the Greeks arrived on the Balkans because ancient Greece was populated from the top down! :lol:


Idiot. Alexander the Great, lived fully 1000 years before the Slavs arrived in the Balkans.

Is that according to Greek mythology sites? :lol:

"Historically they are also known as Enetoi and have inhabited the entire region of Balkans, north of Greece, Northern Itally, Hungary, Romania, Austria, Bavaria, Northern Switzerland, Czech and Slovak Repulics Poland and central Germany all the way to today's Hamburg. The Slavs have inhabited this region since about 1500 B.C., and inhabit about 75 percent of that region to this day."

http://slovio.com/origin/index.html


Why dont you read an Encyclopedia?

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Encyclopaedia Britannica 2007 edition

The people
Ethnicity and language

Macedonia has inherited a complex ethnic structure. The largest group, calling themselves Macedonians (about two-thirds of the population), are descendants of Slavic tribes that moved into the region between the 6th and 8th centuries AD. Their language is very closely related to Bulgarian and is written in the Cyrillic script.

In language, religion, and history, a case could be made for identifying Macedonian Slavs with Bulgarians and to a lesser extent with Serbs. Both have had their periods of influence in the region (especially Serbia after 1918); consequently, there are still communities of Serbs (especially in Kumanovo and Skopje) and Bulgarians.



The people who form the majority of the inhabitants of the contemporary Macedonian republic are clearly not Greeks but Slavs. However, this ecclesiastical tradition, taken together with the long period during which the region was associated with the Greek-speaking Byzantine state, and above all the brief ascendancy of the Macedonian empire (c. 359–321 BC) continue to provide Greeks with a sense that Macedonia is Greek.
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