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[miltiades]

What , Australia doesnt have honour killings ? hard to beleive !!!
Do boys date girls in Australia as they do in Anatolia or does big brother cut the balls off !!

[boomerang]

What , Australia doesnt have honour killings ? hard to beleive !!!
Do boys date girls in Australia as they do in Anatolia or does big brother cut the balls off !!

all of the above Milti...it's written in our constitution...

[Piratis]

i dont know about 1571 dont care and its not relevant.as for 1974 do yourself a favour and change the record,expansionism ? yes cyprus is a superb area for turkish expansionism,where will they invade next ? maybe next time they invade , they will take the whole country.no we know why the turkish peace keeping force came to cyprus and that was simply to save the lives of turkish cypriots because no other country in the world would lift a finger to help
your forefathers gave turkey no other choice.
now behave yourself and get on with your life

Yeah, you don't care about 99.99999% of the history of Cyprus. We know that. So since you are uneducated and clueless what makes you think that you know the truth? The truth is that you invaded our island multiple times. We only defended ourselves and fought for our freedom. We have every right to fight back when we are attacked by foreign invaders such as Turks. And I get on with my life perfectly you fucking Mongolic beggar. It is you who can not manage anything more than stealing and begging.

selective history my friend,the present is far more important than the distant past.you need to calm down.i can understand swearing at someone face to face but to to constantly swear on a keyboard everytime you are wound up says a lot about you.

now look neanderthal man i have never stolen or begged for anything whereas you stole a lot between 1963 1nd 1974 and now you are begging to get back to pre 1974 conditions

Our friend here talks about selective history, and at the same time discards the whole history of Cyprus except a mere decade, and even during that single decade he only remembers half the story, and he forgets the 100s of innocent Greek Cypriots killed by the TC extremists during the exact same conflict.

He even forgets that the conflict didn't start in 1963, but in 1958, and it is in fact the TCs who started the conflict by attacking the Greek Cypriots:



But the contradictions by kentish don't stop there. He starts by saying that what matters most is the present and not the past, and then he starts bringing his lame excuses from half century ago. If what matters most is the present, then what we have in the present is an illegal occupation by Turkey of 1/3rd of Republic of Cyprus, which violates the sovereignty of RoC, against international law and against UN resolutions.

So kentish what do you think is the truth? To look at the present and not the past or look at the whole history? I am fine either way.

But obviously the only way that would suit you is indeed a highly selective history, where you take only a very tiny period of history, and even during that tiny period you select only what you like from it.

And then you come here to give us lessons about the truth and to accuse others of being selective? The most selective of all, by far, is you and people like you. And the truth is something that doesn't suit you, which is why you want to discard just about everything, and you only remember half the story of a mere decade.

[Kifeas]

My older son (5) came from kindergarten today and asked me "Dad, is it tru that Turks took half of Cyprus?" I could see a true sadness in his eyes... and couldnt help answering "yes, but they will give it back, dont worry"

Now, that makes me think... lets say in 10 years, what would happen? The whole thing needs a huge RESET... older generations just make it harder.
I really want my son to live in a united Cyprus...

true sadness in his eyes ? he is five years old, you could do well in telling him the truth in an unbiased way or i suppose we can look forward to him joining this forum in twenty years to spout the usual me me me gc rubbish

And what is the truth, Kentish, that the Greek Cypriots invaded Cyprus and took half of it from the Turks, or that it is Cyprus that occupies half of Turkey?

[kentish]

the truth you pair of morons is that the greek cypriots in power ( makarios and samson and co) were greedy racist murderers from the 1950's onwards and by 1960 they had managed to polute ordinary greek cypriots who had previously lived and worked with turkish cypriots and the plan was cleanse cyprus of everything turkish by removing turkish cypriots from the island by lack of opportunity and by 1974 the killing would have increased to carnage level of all cypriots.
you dont know lucky you are that the turkish peace keeping force to save your sad pathetic lives
dont lecture me on selective history and crawl back into your cesspits

the start of this thread was started by lie, by an idiot that brought his five year old son into the debate.if anyone believes that a five year old boy would come home from school and ask a question like that is truly deluded.
only a greek cypriot would use his child in some inane attempt of emotional blackmail.

my children are adults and they heared nothing from me about the problems betwwen cypriots until they became adults and even now i dont poison their minds with this bile.they can make their own minds up.unlike others who cant wait to get into their youngs mind at the earliest oppotunity.

lets face facts ,even now you lot are trying to starve turkish cypriots out of cyprus but as every year passe there is less chance of any reconcilliation happening.
you muppets talk as if tc have never suffered hardship in cyprus when in reality almost every tc up to 1974 has had to move home at least once.
you dont know how to negotiate with tc ,you only know how to take and be greedy.until you stop feeding your children bile nothing is going to change.you had better get used to it brothers.

[Raymanoff]

kentish, u fucking moron, that question was asked on the 1st of April by my son after their teacher gave a short lesson of patriotism... and dont you dare mention my son u cocksucker

[Piratis]

the truth you pair of morons is that the greek cypriots in power ( makarios and samson and co) were greedy racist murderers from the 1950's onwards and by 1960 they had managed to polute ordinary greek cypriots who had previously lived and worked with turkish cypriots and the plan was cleanse cyprus of everything turkish by removing turkish cypriots from the island by lack of opportunity and by 1974 the killing would have increased to carnage level of all cypriots.
you dont know lucky you are that the turkish peace keeping force to save your sad pathetic lives
dont lecture me on selective history and crawl back into your cesspits

the start of this thread was started by lie, by an idiot that brought his five year old son into the debate.if anyone believes that a five year old boy would come home from school and ask a question like that is truly deluded.
only a greek cypriot would use his child in some inane attempt of emotional blackmail.

my children are adults and they heared nothing from me about the problems betwwen cypriots until they became adults and even now i dont poison their minds with this bile.they can make their own minds up.unlike others who cant wait to get into their youngs mind at the earliest oppotunity.

lets face facts ,even now you lot are trying to starve turkish cypriots out of cyprus but as every year passe there is less chance of any reconcilliation happening.
you muppets talk as if tc have never suffered hardship in cyprus when in reality almost every tc up to 1974 has had to move home at least once.
you dont know how to negotiate with tc ,you only know how to take and be greedy.until you stop feeding your children bile nothing is going to change.you had better get used to it brothers.

Yet more baseless lies. The video I posted earlier shows who started the inter-communal conflict.

Fact: You attacked us starting the intercommunal conflict in 1958. (and later on you even attacked the Armenian Cypriots - but they were too weak to fight back)

Fact: In that conflict both sides had losses.

Fact: In 1974 no TC was killed until after 20th of July when Turkey with the help of TCs attacked Cyprus and started to kill Cypriots by the 1000s.

See kentish, even during that mere decade you remember, you apparently remember only half the story that suits you.

Add to that everything that happened before and after that mere decade, and what you will see is yet more Turkish attacks, crimes and oppression of Turks against the Cypriot people, something which continues until today.

And you accusing us of "greediness" is yet another example of hypocrisy. Your 18% minority has sided with Turkey in order to blackmail the rest of Cypriots and gain, on our expense, 30% of land and 50% of power, and then you have the nerve to accuse us of greediness?

You suffer the consequences of your crimes, illegalities and greediness, and you will continue to suffer the consequences until you respect international law, and accept democracy and human rights in Cyprus without the racist discrimination and segregation that you are trying to impose by force.

[kentish]

yes raymanoff it all starts with a short lesson on patriotism.its you that should never have mentioned your son, and stop swearing its a bad example
and thank you piratis for confirming the tc will continue to suffer the consequencies.you see there is no middle ground.we cant agree on anything and are not prepared to accept the others view.there is no hope,cyprus will stay split for ever
how many tc were killed before 1974 ? and since the turkish peace keeping force arrived how many cypriots in total have been killed,less than 10 possibly?

[Piratis]

We can't agree on anything because you are using some selective and distorted tiny part of the past trying to excuse yet more crimes against us, like you have done for the most part of our history since you came to this island.

Don't you think that it is time to stop the excuses and accept the principles that exist in all civilized countries, such as democracy, human rights, and equality of all citizens without discriminating them based on their ethnicity, language or religion? Today is the 21st century, it is not the middle ages that you could get away with violating all those rights of the Cypriot people. If you continue acting like an Ottoman ruler today you will face consequences, and you will fully deserve them.

You asked how many TCs died before 1974. Some 100s. But why don't you ask how many GCs died? Or that doesn't matter to you? 1000s and 10s of thousands is the answer. And all of these people died because of wars and conflicts that the Turks started with the aim to oppress the Cypriot people and deny to Cypriots their self-determination. The inter-communal conflict was actually over by 1968. The Turkish invasion in 1974 didn't stop the killing of any TCs, because at that time there was no such killing. On the contrary, some more 100s of TCs died after Turkey invaded and you started to kill GCs by the 1000s.

You demanded partition since the 1950s before any conflict between GCs and TCs had started. So how can you call it a "peace operation"? How can you plan a "peace operation" before there is any conflict? On the contrary your partition aim was the reason the conflict started in 1958, when you attacked Greek Cypriots and you demanded that Greek Cypriots should be annihilated from half of their island.

And do you think that separating the Cypriot people via ethnic cleansing is the way to bring peace? Would you also support a "peace operation" that would ethnically cleanse TC from Cyprus and send them back to Turkey?

[kentish]

you see its all over we cant agree on anything.you say the conflict was over by 1968,why do you say that ? its because the gc had total control by then.tc were forced to live in enclaves with no hope for the future.the gc government were weeding tc off the island by denying their future.what about human rights and ethnic cleansing there then.
i am happy to live and work with gc in the uk but would i ever want to in cyprus? no way, i simply do not trust you and i have never read or witnessed anything that trust is forthcoming.