Viewpoint wrote:YFred wrote:Viewpoint wrote:Lets say they do then the Turkification of the north will happen much faster and you will be faced with thousands of tcs asking for their rights in the "RoC" and properties back, that will not change the fact that the north will still not be united with the south and there will be no hope of uniting.
What will the EU do in times of crisis these are member states with no force to intervene and need thousands of meetings to buy a ball point pen let alone save people at risk, please dont ask us to place our safety in their hands as this would encouraging those extremists elements to do their worst.
As for Turkey joining the EU for me thats a non starter at best they will get some sort of special partnership.
You are right President Talat is negotiating, thats why he demands Turkeys guarantees as they are the only ones we feel will tkae action in times of need.
The passport issue if you claim to represent TCs then you cannot say you will not provide passports, how will this look in the eyes of the interntional community? if it is a burden then try cancelling them and see what the outcome will be.
VP, Turkey already has a special partnership with EU. They have been member of the Customs Union since mid 90s. Turkey is not interested in being given anything other than full membership. That is what is being discussed currently. Erdogan said it very clearly not so long ago. GCs are dreaming if they think that they are going to use the EU to force Turkey's hand in any way. Its just a bit of propaganda, it makes the GCs feel better.
Imo Turkey is not a European country and although I commend her on steps towards changing which they should continue they have many years to go before they resemble any form of the end product by which time will they want to join an aging and bureacratic ridden union? Then they are faced with a racist and phoebic French Austrian and German public who do not want Turkey in the christian club. The best they will get in 20 years time is a special partnership agreement which will not amount to much.
In the mean time they can trade freely now, and when the time comes and they are allowed to join, they may decide not to join for that reason.
It works both ways. Don't take to much notice of what French and Austrian leaders say, they are all playing to their public. When the time comes if Turkey wants to join, they will not be able to stop it. The decision is not taken by leaders of parliments, its by meeting the criteria set in the negotiations.