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[The Cypriot]

If you are referring to the future, I would agree but if you are currently a BRITISH NATIONAL, you cannot also be a CYPRIOT NATIONAL unless you have DUAL NATIONALITY which you do not have. DO YOU VOTE IN CYPRUS ?

I am not a Cypriot national and I don't vote in elections. What are you implying? That I shouldn't take an interest in Cyprus? Just leave it to you guys to free the island from Turkey's army? Are you prejudiced to Cypriots who fled the island to escape poverty and war? That's not very nice, Byron.

Paphitis gave a clear explanation in another thread, Cypriot is the nationality, GREEK is the ETHNOS.

Young man, please. Paphiti doesn't know what day it is (and that has nothing to do with Australia being a nine or ten hours ahead.

At the moment you are not a Cypriot national nor are you a GREEK by Ethnos based on your alleged rejections so perhaps we can call you a "CHARLIE" !

What a horrible, horrible thing to say.

[Byron]

I emigrated to the UK in 1961 on my own at the age of 15 ( Here we go again I hear GR exclaim) on a Cypriot passport .Some years later I obtained British nationality whilst still retaining the Cypriot one.
Ever since then I have held a British passport and have sworn to chuck it away when a statue of Bin Laden is erected in Trafalgar square !!!! My Cypriot ID was issued by the British in 1958 when I attained the age of 12 and as required by the British rulers once you reached the age of 12 you had to have an ID.
Lost it over the years and a few years back I had it reissued at Lemesos after some vociferous arguments with the issuing authorities who insisted that my name was Giannakis and not as shown on my passport and all other legal documents as Yiannis. They informed me that the spelling was based on Latin !!!! I raised my voice , in fact I shouted at them and demanded to see their superior to whom I addressed my by now uncontrollable anger telling him that Yiannis is the way my name is spelled and written and not in bloody Latin.He relented and Im now the proud owner of my Cypriot ID showing my full name as Yiannis Miltiades Savvides , known by all as John !!!!
Strange how our surnames , most us anyway , were created. When you went to school for the first time you are asked the name of your grandfather and when you replied Antonis or Demetris they put you down as Antoniades or Demetriou in my case my grandfathers name was Savva so I became Savvides. Crazy system it was in those days , my real family name was Choukkas , often thought of reverting back to it but some how never did. The strange thing is that my father had his own grandfathers name and was signed as Christodoulou , years later when he came to the UK he changed it to Savvides.
There you are folks my full family story. Now did I tell you when I , quite a few years ago , I was in the music......

I think we all enjoyed reading your life story but I do not think you can hold both a BRITISH PASSPORT & A CYPRIOT PASSPORT unless you have DUAL NATIONALITY. The ID card is not a passport. So what is your current nationality.

Byron you are wrong mate. ALL CYPRIOTS BORN IN CYPRUS OF CYPRIOT PARENTS AUTOMATICALY HAVE A CYPRIOT NATIONALITY .FACT.
If they also decide to apply for the nationality of the nation the are living in they do but still retain their country of birth nationality. This is why , even today men requiring to do national service in Cyprus have to apply for an exit visa. My son who was born in the UK and has an English mother and a British only passport also has to apply for an Exit permit. My daughter who lives in Cyprus has , like thousands upon thousands of others with same circumstances , dual nationality. She is planning a trip to the UK in June , she has her Cypriot ID and British passport. The two children have Cypriot passports of their own.
May I just clarify again that a Cypriot born national who obtains by virtue of residence in another country that country's nationality does not lose his Cypriot nationality .

What does the HOME OFFICE have to say about this ?

[Byron]

Miltiades,

Your apology please ????

[Raymanoff]

Pethkia, exo 5 tzikles... pao na tes diganiso se iliolado, na valo lemoni apo pano tze meta na kathariso to piato me xoriatiko psomi... meta na pio mesi potsa JB tze naerto dame na sas priso ta archithkia sas...

[Byron]

I did not say you lose your Cypriot Nationality, but you cannot be a Cypriot National and a British National unless you have Dual Nationality. Do you have a right to vote in NATIONAL ELECTIONS in Cyprus ?

[miltiades]

I emigrated to the UK in 1961 on my own at the age of 15 ( Here we go again I hear GR exclaim) on a Cypriot passport .Some years later I obtained British nationality whilst still retaining the Cypriot one.
Ever since then I have held a British passport and have sworn to chuck it away when a statue of Bin Laden is erected in Trafalgar square !!!! My Cypriot ID was issued by the British in 1958 when I attained the age of 12 and as required by the British rulers once you reached the age of 12 you had to have an ID.
Lost it over the years and a few years back I had it reissued at Lemesos after some vociferous arguments with the issuing authorities who insisted that my name was Giannakis and not as shown on my passport and all other legal documents as Yiannis. They informed me that the spelling was based on Latin !!!! I raised my voice , in fact I shouted at them and demanded to see their superior to whom I addressed my by now uncontrollable anger telling him that Yiannis is the way my name is spelled and written and not in bloody Latin.He relented and Im now the proud owner of my Cypriot ID showing my full name as Yiannis Miltiades Savvides , known by all as John !!!!
Strange how our surnames , most us anyway , were created. When you went to school for the first time you are asked the name of your grandfather and when you replied Antonis or Demetris they put you down as Antoniades or Demetriou in my case my grandfathers name was Savva so I became Savvides. Crazy system it was in those days , my real family name was Choukkas , often thought of reverting back to it but some how never did. The strange thing is that my father had his own grandfathers name and was signed as Christodoulou , years later when he came to the UK he changed it to Savvides.
There you are folks my full family story. Now did I tell you when I , quite a few years ago , I was in the music......

I think we all enjoyed reading your life story but I do not think you can hold both a BRITISH PASSPORT & A CYPRIOT PASSPORT unless you have DUAL NATIONALITY. The ID card is not a passport. So what is your current nationality.

Byron you are wrong mate. ALL CYPRIOTS BORN IN CYPRUS OF CYPRIOT PARENTS AUTOMATICALY HAVE A CYPRIOT NATIONALITY .FACT.
If they also decide to apply for the nationality of the nation the are living in they do but still retain their country of birth nationality. This is why , even today men requiring to do national service in Cyprus have to apply for an exit visa. My son who was born in the UK and has an English mother and a British only passport also has to apply for an Exit permit. My daughter who lives in Cyprus has , like thousands upon thousands of others with same circumstances , dual nationality. She is planning a trip to the UK in June , she has her Cypriot ID and British passport. The two children have Cypriot passports of their own.
May I just clarify again that a Cypriot born national who obtains by virtue of residence in another country that country's nationality does not lose his Cypriot nationality .

What does the HOME OFFICE have to say about this ?

Byron , how old are you mate ?
British or other nationals lets say Americans can have dual nationality as indeed 300 thousand Cypriots in the UK have dual nationality , each and every one of them.
Note 5 of a British passport states:
""A person having some connection with a Commonwealth or foreign country eg by birth , be descent through either parent, by marriage or by residence may be a national of that country in addition to being a British national. Acquisition of British nationality or citizenship by a foreigner does not necessarily cause the loss of nationality of origin""

So each and every single Cypriot born or by descent through either parent HAS DUAL NATIONALITY . FACT.

[Byron]

I emigrated to the UK in 1961 on my own at the age of 15 ( Here we go again I hear GR exclaim) on a Cypriot passport .Some years later I obtained British nationality whilst still retaining the Cypriot one.
Ever since then I have held a British passport and have sworn to chuck it away when a statue of Bin Laden is erected in Trafalgar square !!!! My Cypriot ID was issued by the British in 1958 when I attained the age of 12 and as required by the British rulers once you reached the age of 12 you had to have an ID.
Lost it over the years and a few years back I had it reissued at Lemesos after some vociferous arguments with the issuing authorities who insisted that my name was Giannakis and not as shown on my passport and all other legal documents as Yiannis. They informed me that the spelling was based on Latin !!!! I raised my voice , in fact I shouted at them and demanded to see their superior to whom I addressed my by now uncontrollable anger telling him that Yiannis is the way my name is spelled and written and not in bloody Latin.He relented and Im now the proud owner of my Cypriot ID showing my full name as Yiannis Miltiades Savvides , known by all as John !!!!
Strange how our surnames , most us anyway , were created. When you went to school for the first time you are asked the name of your grandfather and when you replied Antonis or Demetris they put you down as Antoniades or Demetriou in my case my grandfathers name was Savva so I became Savvides. Crazy system it was in those days , my real family name was Choukkas , often thought of reverting back to it but some how never did. The strange thing is that my father had his own grandfathers name and was signed as Christodoulou , years later when he came to the UK he changed it to Savvides.
There you are folks my full family story. Now did I tell you when I , quite a few years ago , I was in the music......

I think we all enjoyed reading your life story but I do not think you can hold both a BRITISH PASSPORT & A CYPRIOT PASSPORT unless you have DUAL NATIONALITY. The ID card is not a passport. So what is your current nationality.

Byron you are wrong mate. ALL CYPRIOTS BORN IN CYPRUS OF CYPRIOT PARENTS AUTOMATICALY HAVE A CYPRIOT NATIONALITY .FACT.
If they also decide to apply for the nationality of the nation the are living in they do but still retain their country of birth nationality. This is why , even today men requiring to do national service in Cyprus have to apply for an exit visa. My son who was born in the UK and has an English mother and a British only passport also has to apply for an Exit permit. My daughter who lives in Cyprus has , like thousands upon thousands of others with same circumstances , dual nationality. She is planning a trip to the UK in June , she has her Cypriot ID and British passport. The two children have Cypriot passports of their own.
May I just clarify again that a Cypriot born national who obtains by virtue of residence in another country that country's nationality does not lose his Cypriot nationality .

What does the HOME OFFICE have to say about this ?

Byron , how old are you mate ?
British or other nationals lets say Americans can have dual nationality as indeed 300 thousand Cypriots in the UK have dual nationality , each and every one of them.
Note 5 of a British passport states:
""A person having some connection with a Commonwealth or foreign country eg by birth , be descent through either parent, by marriage or by residence may be a national of that country in addition to being a British national. Acquisition of British nationality or citizenship by a foreigner does not necessarily cause the loss of nationality of origin""

So each and every single Cypriot born or by descent through either parent HAS DUAL NATIONALITY . FACT.

Sorry to correct you but Cypriot Citizenship is not guaranteed automatically to those of Cypriot descent. Those wishing to become Cypriot citizens must make the appropriate application.

Likewise Cypriot Citizenship is not guaranteed automatically to those Cypriots born in Cyprus with foreign passports. For Cypriots born before 1960 who were resident in Cyprus during the five years preceeding Independence will automatically be given Citizenship. Otherwise an application for Citizenship is required.

For those born in Cyprus after 1960, Citizenship is automatic for those permanently and legally living in Cyprus. Application is otherwise required for those persons living permanently in a foreign country provided that at the persons birth any one of his parents was a Cyprus Citizen.

As to your identity card, if your nationality is described as "CYPRIOT" you can use your ID card to travel to the UK. If your nationality is stated as "BRITISH" or "BRITISH CYPRIOT" you will need to travel with a valid passport.

[miltiades]

I emigrated to the UK in 1961 on my own at the age of 15 ( Here we go again I hear GR exclaim) on a Cypriot passport .Some years later I obtained British nationality whilst still retaining the Cypriot one.
Ever since then I have held a British passport and have sworn to chuck it away when a statue of Bin Laden is erected in Trafalgar square !!!! My Cypriot ID was issued by the British in 1958 when I attained the age of 12 and as required by the British rulers once you reached the age of 12 you had to have an ID.
Lost it over the years and a few years back I had it reissued at Lemesos after some vociferous arguments with the issuing authorities who insisted that my name was Giannakis and not as shown on my passport and all other legal documents as Yiannis. They informed me that the spelling was based on Latin !!!! I raised my voice , in fact I shouted at them and demanded to see their superior to whom I addressed my by now uncontrollable anger telling him that Yiannis is the way my name is spelled and written and not in bloody Latin.He relented and Im now the proud owner of my Cypriot ID showing my full name as Yiannis Miltiades Savvides , known by all as John !!!!
Strange how our surnames , most us anyway , were created. When you went to school for the first time you are asked the name of your grandfather and when you replied Antonis or Demetris they put you down as Antoniades or Demetriou in my case my grandfathers name was Savva so I became Savvides. Crazy system it was in those days , my real family name was Choukkas , often thought of reverting back to it but some how never did. The strange thing is that my father had his own grandfathers name and was signed as Christodoulou , years later when he came to the UK he changed it to Savvides.
There you are folks my full family story. Now did I tell you when I , quite a few years ago , I was in the music......

I think we all enjoyed reading your life story but I do not think you can hold both a BRITISH PASSPORT & A CYPRIOT PASSPORT unless you have DUAL NATIONALITY. The ID card is not a passport. So what is your current nationality.

Byron you are wrong mate. ALL CYPRIOTS BORN IN CYPRUS OF CYPRIOT PARENTS AUTOMATICALY HAVE A CYPRIOT NATIONALITY .FACT.
If they also decide to apply for the nationality of the nation the are living in they do but still retain their country of birth nationality. This is why , even today men requiring to do national service in Cyprus have to apply for an exit visa. My son who was born in the UK and has an English mother and a British only passport also has to apply for an Exit permit. My daughter who lives in Cyprus has , like thousands upon thousands of others with same circumstances , dual nationality. She is planning a trip to the UK in June , she has her Cypriot ID and British passport. The two children have Cypriot passports of their own.
May I just clarify again that a Cypriot born national who obtains by virtue of residence in another country that country's nationality does not lose his Cypriot nationality .

What does the HOME OFFICE have to say about this ?

Byron , how old are you mate ?
British or other nationals lets say Americans can have dual nationality as indeed 300 thousand Cypriots in the UK have dual nationality , each and every one of them.
Note 5 of a British passport states:
""A person having some connection with a Commonwealth or foreign country eg by birth , be descent through either parent, by marriage or by residence may be a national of that country in addition to being a British national. Acquisition of British nationality or citizenship by a foreigner does not necessarily cause the loss of nationality of origin""

So each and every single Cypriot born or by descent through either parent HAS DUAL NATIONALITY . FACT.

Sorry to correct you but Cypriot Citizenship is not guaranteed automatically to those of Cypriot descent. Those wishing to become Cypriot citizens must make the appropriate application.

Likewise Cypriot Citizenship is not guaranteed automatically to those Cypriots born in Cyprus with foreign passports. For Cypriots born before 1960 who were resident in Cyprus during the five years preceeding Independence will automatically be given Citizenship. Otherwise an application for Citizenship is required.

For those born in Cyprus after 1960, Citizenship is automatic for those permanently and legally living in Cyprus. Application is otherwise required for those persons living permanently in a foreign country provided that at the persons birth any one of his parents was a Cyprus Citizen.

As to your identity card, if your nationality is described as "CYPRIOT" you can use your ID card to travel to the UK. If your nationality is stated as "BRITISH" or "BRITISH CYPRIOT" you will need to travel with a valid passport.

Rubbish . You dont know boy so dont give out false information. Here is what my Cypriot ID , which I have in front of me says Ithagenia/ Nationality
KYPRIAKH / BPETTANIKH
CYPRIOT / BRITISH
End of the matter , a Cypriot ID can be used for travel through out the EU .
Finito Lamusica pasato lafesta !

[DT.]

Fact 1: You need to apply for you ID
Fact 2: You need to apply for a CY passport
Fact 3: You're asked these days what you want your ID to say if you have dual nationality. Cypriot or Cypriot/British. (was asked and replied Cypriot/British)
Fact 4: Dual nationality is accepted by both the UK and Cyprus.

Fact 5: Raymanoffs last post got me in the mood for a ziafetti tonight.

[miltiades]

Fact 1: You need to apply for you ID
Fact 2: You need to apply for a CY passport
Fact 3: You're asked these days what you want your ID to say if you have dual nationality. Cypriot or Cypriot/British. (was asked and replied Cypriot/British)
Fact 4: Dual nationality is accepted by both the UK and Cyprus.

Fact 5: Raymanoffs last post got me in the mood for a ziafetti tonight.

DT , it goes without saying that one born in Cyprus of Cypriot parents
or one born overseas with either parent having Cypriot connections although entitled to Cypriot ID and passport cant just walk into a government issuing office and demand either. Proper channels have to be followed.
When my daughter who was born in the UK of a Cypriot father and an English mother and applied for a Cypriot ID she had to submit a copy of my original birth certificate and a copy of her mothers passport amongst other require documents ie her own birth certificate.
I do not have a Cypriot passport and have intended to apply for one for some time now just haven't got around it yet.
ps.what on earth is ZIAFETTI , if it ain't something rude that is !!!