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[Byron]

To Mr Cypriot - you said

"I was born and raised in the UK. My parents are both from Cyprus".

From a nationality point of view are you a Cypriot or a British national ?

I only have one passport and it's British. So I am a British national. I suppose I could get myself a Cypriot passport but I've never needed one. I'm not certain if I would ever need one now, since Cyprus joined the EU.

I have a British passport and a Cyprus ID which I use instead of my passport when travelling to Cyprus. These days I very seldom have to use my passport.
I have great affinity to Britain having lived here for almost 48 years and have in my family many English relatives.
I think successive British governments have done a great disservice to their own people but there again they , the politicians , are only in politics for what their greedy little hands can get. They have reduced a once great nation to the levels of third world countries , look at the latest obscenity of the British Home Secretary charging the taxpayer for her and her husbands pornographic films , knowing them as now do I' m certain if Viagra was needed they bloody well claimed for it. A disgrace , how dare they sink so low.
Enough of the Brits , some say that the British exploited the entire world but none so excessively as their own people.
A statue of Mohamad Gandhi is due to be erected in a Leicester street , great man he was , now the Pakistanis are demanding a statue of Mohammad AlI Jinnah , sure to be followed by demands of statues for Bin Fucking Laden , I tell you the country is gone mad , bloody coronation street for 60 years Eastenders for 30 , and the other rubbish that the Brits enjoy leaves them no time to concentrate on important issues.
Wake up Britain I say , get the bloody Euro you little Englanders and join the 21st century instead of the Pakistan , Bangladesh and third world associations. I'm getting out of here , had enough !

I am not too sure that your Cypriot ID is valid for travels to other EU states. Also , I suspect that on your ID, NATIONALITY is stated as BRITISH.

Even so, should you decide to leave the UK will you give up your BRITISH NATIONALITY (PASSPORT) ?

The Cypriot ID is valid for travel throughout the EU.
My Cypriot ID , first issued to me in 1958 , stated my Nationality as British.
My replacement one which was issued in Limassol a few years back states my nationality as CYPRIOT / BRITISH.
The only time I would use my British passport is for travel outside the EU .
I will in due course replace it for a Cypriot one so that if travelling outside the EU a distinction can be made between your average modern day Briton , see below , and this here Cypriot.

Which one did you say was the Cypriot !

I'm the one on the left !!
Hope you have a sense of humour !!

I thought so !

[Byron]

Here is one of me doing my garden today !

Can't really be you , you look like a prisoner of war !

[Byron]

Miltiades :

When are you going to apologise ?

[Kikapu]

Total rubbish thats how you wish to see things, your expertise in sarcasm does not allow you to realize the damage you do to relations between the 2 communties your comments force the wedge deeper thus increasing the levels of mistrust and doubt. Your lack of understanding and degrading comments will only guarantee one thing..partition. You must feel real proud to be a contributor to this state of affairs but what makes you look even more stupid than you really are is that you do not realize the damage you are doing because your nose is so deeply inbedded in GC arse.

Yes, VP, just blame others for your own fuck ups. You don't need my help to cause any damage between the two communities, because your whole aim here on the forum is to cause problems between the two communities. How else are you expected to keep 29% of the north, so cut the crap. You have issues with me, because I contradict your accusations and claims most of the time which stops you in your tracks from creating hate between the two communities. This is what you don't like, because I do not let you get traction with your hate messages. Trust me, if I was causing a division between the two communities, you would be sending me praises as you do to your fellow Partitionist here on the forum and not condemnations. I don't see you sending condemnations to your fellow NeoPartitionist, so why is that.?

Stops me in my tracks???, you are yet again exagerating and over estimating your worth, the people you continue to allienate is none other than those that you claim (which I still have my doubts) to have derived from (ashamedly for us) the TCs. But of course you are to thick skinned to realize the damage you are doing and the above post proves my point.

The only point proved, is that you cannot peddle your Fascistic crap past me as you think you can to other unsuspecting TC's, because you want them to believe that you have their best interest at heart. Little do they know, it is the best interest of the Fascists NeoPartitionist that you have at heart. I have at least proposed no less than twice a settlement plan where it took the best interest of the True TC's at heart, unlike you where partition is your only aim. Just because we come from the same community, does not mean I have to support your Fascistic views. The fact that you voted for the AP, a Racist, Undemocratic and violations of Human Rights tells me a lot about yourself.!

You are the one who has sold your soul to the GCs and will do everything to lead us down the wrong path, a prime example being the Kikapu plan which was concealed capitulation to GC will and domination, TCs are not stupid and they can smell your kind a mile off. You can argue your point like everyone else but if the majority of TCs reject your one sided viewpoint dont try to lay the blame on us as your ideology is not gospel as you seem to have convinced yourself...there are very few TCs on this forum that agree with you on any matter this must tell you something but I forgot you are so blindly anti TCs that TCs have on many occassions had problems identifying you as a TC but hey I have always believed you are GC and if one day we should unfortunately meet I will spit in your face for selling the TCs out. Not once have you argued anything remotely pro TC and anti GC why is that? is there nothing the GC demand which is not right? Are you a paid GC agent? because you act like one.

Listen clown, my loyalty is to Cyprus as a Cypriot and to all Cypriots who want the best for Cyprus and not to anyone who wishes to tear her apart, as you do. Just the mere fact that you do not want to lift a finger to help the TC's to find True Democracy under True Federation as my plan required, which you yourself approved it at first before realising that 50% of the north needs to be returned back to it's rightful owners, only tells me that you have zero interest in ever having a True Democracy for Cyprus, just because it would shut the partition door on your face with loss of land on top. Majority TC's never rejected my plan, only you once you realised the cost to the Fascist NeoPartitionist and Insan who has another plan in mind, much like the 1960's. Now look who has the arrogance to be so presumptuous that you VP is the majority of the TC’s. Come to think of it, only one GC liked it, DT, so, so much for your pointless ranting of being a "concealed capitulation of the TC's to the GC plan". Don't you think all of the GC's would have jumped on the band wagon along with DT to support such a plan if they felt it was good for them and bad for the TC's. No, they did not, because it gave the TC's everything they asked for, except this time Democratically.

Here is the plan for those who may want to read it.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=21685

I have always believed you are GC and if one day we should unfortunately meet I will spit in your face for selling the TCs out

That is your choice to spit in my face if we should one day meet, VP, just because I want the TC's to live under True Democracy in an "honest society", as long as you understand, that it will also be my choice to decide whether you will be using straws from then on to feed yourself with.!

[miltiades]

Miltiades :

When are you going to apologise ?

When you confirm that your vote has been cast .Beware , I know whose votes were the 18th and 19th !!

[The Cypriot]

Here is one of me doing my garden today !

Can't really be you , you look like a prisoner of war !

Is this really you, milti? If so, you must have some Mexican-Irish-Cypriot blood in you as you're a dead ringer for Anthony 'Zorba' Quinn.

[miltiades]

Here is one of me doing my garden today !

Can't really be you , you look like a prisoner of war !

Is this really you, milti? If so, you must have some Mexican-Irish-Cypriot blood in you as you're a dead ringer for Anthony 'Zorba' Quinn.

Only kidding , this is the real me however:

[The Cypriot]

Traitors are the unfortunate few who have spent hundreds if not thousands of years in Cyprus and STILL put the motherlands on a higher pedestal than Cyprus itself. The ones who act like they've been "groomed" by Turkey and Greece.

I think Cyprus has it's own unique aura, culture and character which cames from US, the people who have lived off the island, not the motherlands! Why are we giving them credit for anything?

Look how far Americans have come since colonising America, and then compare it to Cyprus and the "Cypriots"!!!! They too took their cultures and traditions to their new land...when was the last time they looked back?!?

TCs & GCs don't even have a full country between themselves...if we were to put what we have together we still wouldn't have a whole Cyprus!

TC WROTE :
"I think Cyprus has it's own unique aura, culture and character which cames from US,"

Must be the halloumi talking !

Must be your kolo-kassi talking, Byron

[The Cypriot]

Only kidding , this is the real me however:

You're not related to Paphiti by any chance? Cyprus is a small country.

[The Cypriot]

I think you are going a little too far with your thinking. There is no intention on my part to act in a non friendly manner , that is up to you on your interpretation.

So why did you ignore my friendly question? which was not leading in any way - just friendly. And don't ask me to repeat it. If it means anything to you, you'll go back and find it.

Since many members on this forum denounce the word GREEK within CYPRIOT, I am trying to find out what is a true CYPRIOT.

And i'm HONOURED that you're asking me. Perhaps we can be friends after all.

In legal terms nationality would obviously count. On that score you cannot be a CYPRIOT because you are BRITISH

My British passport does not preclude me from citizenship rights and responsibilities I may have by birth, young man. So you're wrong there I'm afraid.

with English being your mother tongue.

My mother spoke to me, and still speaks to me in Cypriot. English too. (I had to learn 'proper' Greek at Greek school). She speaks quite good English - I mean, if that's OK. You won't use it against me I hope.

The second link would be ethnical which you would score because of your parentage so in my opinion as a LONDON or BRITISH CYPRIOT you are no different to a GREEK CYPRIOT. Do you not agree ?

Depends what your definition of a Greek Cypriot is. If it's the son of two parents who emigrated from Greece but was born and raised in Cyprus, then, no. As that's what I am, but replace 'Greek/Greece' with 'London'.

The same would apply to those TURKISH CYPRIOTS born in the UK or AUSTRALIA of CYPRIOT parentage.

I refer you to my answer above.

However, there are some CYPRIOTS and I believe Mr Liar, to be one who were born in CYPRUS and traded in their CYPRIOT nationality for a BRITISH or other foreign one. So who are the traitors as you previously mentioned now !

Byron, not sure where you're going with this. Are you having a dig at miltiadis or are you trying to catch me out? If the former, take it up with milti directly. If the latter, my definition of traitor is someone who wants to dismember Cyprus forever. I don't think milti fits into that category as he voted for UNITY - unlike you. So who's the traitor?