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Real unity or agreed partition?

a. Real unity?
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b. Agreed partition?
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Postby The Cypriot » Sun Apr 12, 2009 2:52 pm

Byron wrote:
Thanks for your kind clarification. As a non Cypriot national your ties to Cyprus are therefore ethnical and cultural.


Although my dad does have some land in the south, while my in-laws do have land in the north. I certainly do not have to live with 40,000 foreign troops on my door-step.


Byron wrote: Do you classify yourself as British with cypriot origins or just British Cypriot. I would be interested to know as there are many people on this forum born outside of Cyprus.


Interesting question. You know what? I see myself as a Londoner, with Cypriot roots. I don't feel any great affinity to Britain or Britishness as a concept, although there's much about Britain that I admire. If you pursue justice here, you can usually get it.

I resent the role Britain has played (and has continued to play) in the division of Cyprus and up until recently have been at odds with British policy on Cyprus.

I don't support England's football team but if my team Tottenham played a Cypriot team, I would support Tottenham.

And I'll stop now, because no doubt some of these facts will be used against me by seasoned forumers, looking for an argument.

How about you? Are you a Cypriot on Cyprus? If so, your English is very good.
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Postby Byron » Sun Apr 12, 2009 3:08 pm

Mr Cypriot , my interpretation from your reply is that :

1) You could be regarded as an Ethnic Cypriot through your Cypriot roots, certainly not a CYPRIOT NATIONAL, although you regard yourself as a Londoner with a British passport but with no real feelings for Britain.
2) Perhaps we could classify you as a "London Cypriot"
3) The term "London Cypriot" how does it compare with "GREEK CYPRIOT"
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Re: Real unity or agreed partition?

Postby Kikapu » Sun Apr 12, 2009 3:38 pm

The Cypriot wrote:I was born and raised in the UK. My parents are both from Cyprus. They were Cypriots, as were both sets of grandparents. Beyond that? Who knows...


You are a Cypriot just as VP is, since he too were born in the UK to Cypriot parents. It's just that you are a GC and he a TC.!
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Postby The Cypriot » Sun Apr 12, 2009 3:57 pm

Byron wrote:Mr Cypriot , my interpretation from your reply is that :

1) You could be regarded as an Ethnic Cypriot through your Cypriot roots, certainly not a CYPRIOT NATIONAL, although you regard yourself as a Londoner with a British passport but with no real feelings for Britain.
2) Perhaps we could classify you as a "London Cypriot"
3) The term "London Cypriot" how does it compare with "GREEK CYPRIOT"


Good Lord, I should have known there was a devious strategy behind your probing questioning. And there was me thinking you were being nice.

Assuming my wife were pure London Cypriot, and our child marries a pure London Cypriot himself, and they have a child, who does the same.... etc. etc. for generations and generations, then my great-great---(add a few hundred more greats) grand-son would be comparable to you: a LONDON Cypriot as you are a GREEK Cypriot.

I expect after all those years, however, my descendent would be quite happy to be just a Londoner.

As, actually, am I. I hope that answers your question. And the next time you're friendly, I'll know you have ulterior motives.
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Postby Kikapu » Sun Apr 12, 2009 3:58 pm

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Total rubbish thats how you wish to see things, your expertise in sarcasm does not allow you to realize the damage you do to relations between the 2 communties your comments force the wedge deeper thus increasing the levels of mistrust and doubt. Your lack of understanding and degrading comments will only guarantee one thing..partition. You must feel real proud to be a contributor to this state of affairs but what makes you look even more stupid than you really are is that you do not realize the damage you are doing because your nose is so deeply inbedded in GC arse.


Yes, VP, just blame others for your own fuck ups. You don't need my help to cause any damage between the two communities, because your whole aim here on the forum is to cause problems between the two communities. How else are you expected to keep 29% of the north, so cut the crap. You have issues with me, because I contradict your accusations and claims most of the time which stops you in your tracks from creating hate between the two communities. This is what you don't like, because I do not let you get traction with your hate messages. Trust me, if I was causing a division between the two communities, you would be sending me praises as you do to your fellow Partitionist here on the forum and not condemnations. I don't see you sending condemnations to your fellow NeoPartitionist, so why is that.?
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Re: Real unity or agreed partition?

Postby The Cypriot » Sun Apr 12, 2009 3:58 pm

Kikapu wrote:You are a Cypriot just as VP is, since he too were born in the UK to Cypriot parents. It's just that you are a GC and he a TC.!


VP may be a TC but I'm an LC.
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Re: Real unity or agreed partition?

Postby Kikapu » Sun Apr 12, 2009 4:11 pm

The Cypriot wrote:
Kikapu wrote:You are a Cypriot just as VP is, since he too were born in the UK to Cypriot parents. It's just that you are a GC and he a TC.!


VP may be a TC but I'm an LC.


So what you are saying is, that VP is a partial Cypriot, only the part that he is born to a True TC parents, but in the UK where he has lived his first 30 years, and when he did return to the island 16 years ago, he actually never returned back to Cyprus, but some place he calls home and his country, the "trnc", since he does not accept being a Cypriot or even recognise Cypriotism. Using the above guidelines, you are more Cypriot than VP is in that case.!
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Re: Real unity or agreed partition?

Postby The Cypriot » Sun Apr 12, 2009 4:15 pm

Kikapu wrote:So what you are saying is, that VP is a partial Cypriot, only the part that he is born to a True TC parents, but in the UK where he has lived his first 30 years, and when he did return to the island 16 years ago, he actually never returned back to Cyprus, but some place he calls home and his country, the "trnc", since he does not accept being a Cypriot or even recognise Cypriotism. Using the above guidelines, you are more Cypriot than VP is in that case.!


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Postby Byron » Sun Apr 12, 2009 4:18 pm

The Cypriot wrote:
Byron wrote:Mr Cypriot , my interpretation from your reply is that :

1) You could be regarded as an Ethnic Cypriot through your Cypriot roots, certainly not a CYPRIOT NATIONAL, although you regard yourself as a Londoner with a British passport but with no real feelings for Britain.
2) Perhaps we could classify you as a "London Cypriot"
3) The term "London Cypriot" how does it compare with "GREEK CYPRIOT"


Good Lord, I should have known there was a devious strategy behind your probing questioning. And there was me thinking you were being nice.

Assuming my wife were pure London Cypriot, and our child marries a pure London Cypriot himself, and they have a child, who does the same.... etc. etc. for generations and generations, then my great-great---(add a few hundred more greats) grand-son would be comparable to you: a LONDON Cypriot as you are a GREEK Cypriot.

I expect after all those years, however, my descendent would be quite happy to be just a Londoner.

As, actually, am I. I hope that answers your question. And the next time you're friendly, I'll no you have ulterior motives.


I think you are going a little too far with your thinking. There is no intention on my part to act in a non friendly manner , that is up to you on your interpretation. Since many members on this forum denounce the word GREEK within CYPRIOT, I am trying to find out what is a true CYPRIOT. In legal terms nationality would obviously count. On that score you cannot be a CYPRIOT because you are BRITISH with English being your mother tongue. The second link would be ethnical which you would score because of your parentage so in my opinion as a LONDON or BRITISH CYPRIOT you are no different to a GREEK CYPRIOT. Do you not agree ? The same would apply to those TURKISH CYPRIOTS born in the UK or AUSTRALIA of CYPRIOT parentage.

However, there are some CYPRIOTS and I believe Mr Liar, to be one who were born in CYPRUS and traded in their CYPRIOT nationality for a BRITISH or other foreign one. So who are the traitors as you previously mentioned now !
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Postby miltiades » Sun Apr 12, 2009 4:23 pm

The Cypriot wrote:
Byron wrote:To Mr Cypriot - you said

"I was born and raised in the UK. My parents are both from Cyprus".

From a nationality point of view are you a Cypriot or a British national ?



I only have one passport and it's British. So I am a British national. I suppose I could get myself a Cypriot passport but I've never needed one. I'm not certain if I would ever need one now, since Cyprus joined the EU.

I have a British passport and a Cyprus ID which I use instead of my passport when travelling to Cyprus. These days I very seldom have to use my passport.
I have great affinity to Britain having lived here for almost 48 years and have in my family many English relatives.
I think successive British governments have done a great disservice to their own people but there again they , the politicians , are only in politics for what their greedy little hands can get. They have reduced a once great nation to the levels of third world countries , look at the latest obscenity of the British Home Secretary charging the taxpayer for her and her husbands pornographic films , knowing them as now do I' m certain if Viagra was needed they bloody well claimed for it. A disgrace , how dare they sink so low.
Enough of the Brits , some say that the British exploited the entire world but none so excessively as their own people.
A statue of Mohamad Gandhi is due to be erected in a Leicester street , great man he was , now the Pakistanis are demanding a statue of Mohammad AlI Jinnah , sure to be followed by demands of statues for Bin Fucking Laden , I tell you the country is gone mad , bloody coronation street for 60 years Eastenders for 30 , and the other rubbish that the Brits enjoy leaves them no time to concentrate on important issues.
Wake up Britain I say , get the bloody Euro you little Englanders and join the 21st century instead of the Pakistan , Bangladesh and third world associations. I'm getting out of here , had enough !
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