Kikapu wrote:Cypriot,
First of all, thank you for the compliments. I try to be very objective in what I write, despite rubbing few people the wrong way, specially those from my own community, the TC's,
Never stop Kiks! It's the voice of reason from people like you that inhibit the worst excesses of our misguided ultra-Hellenists.
Kikapu wrote:hence my avatar.!
I like it. I'm reminded of a saying I heard recently.
"You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you're all the same."
Kikapu wrote: May I ask you if you are a Cypriot yourself, and if so, which ethnicity do you belong to.?
I was born and raised in the UK. My parents are both from Cyprus. They were Cypriots, as were both sets of grandparents. Beyond that? Who knows...
As for my ethnicity? I was christened as a baby in an orthodox church in Camden Town in London. No doubt I cried, like all babies going through such an ordeal... I had no say in the matter.
Kikapu wrote: I was also very surprised that you have only made less than 200 contributions to the forum in the last 3 years before this latest thread, which seems strange for someone who has great interest in Cyprus.
I've not contributed much. But I check in regularly, esp. the 'Cyprus problem' section which I consider a good indication of wider current public opinion.
Unfortunately, far too many of the exchanges here get bogged down with pointless rehearsed arguments, over and over again; like a broken record. Like two children that refuse to grow up.
"You hit me."
"No, you hit me first."
"I'll get my mum onto you."
"Well I'll get my mum onto you; and she's bigger."
"Well I'll get my whole family."
"See if I care!"
Tit-for-tat, between forgive me, twits and twats.
An interesting development, however, has been the debate, largely initiatied by the likes of GR!, Miltiades et al. about the need for a uniquely Cypriot sense of self as an antidote to the divisive influences of Hellenism and the Turkish equivalent. I think their arguments, though often put forward a little aggressively for my liking, have begun to hit home and have helped to get people thinking.
It's this that encouraged me to throw in my three-ghroshas'-worth.
Kikapu wrote: I have stated many times, that I never take part in any of the polls conducted on the CF. The reasons being, there are many people on the forum with more than one “ID”, therefore the results cannot be relied on. The only way I would vote on any polls on the CF, if it's an open poll where individuals state their positions "in person".
Let me give you an example. I went through the 20 pages on this thread and came up with ONLY 18 different ID's, but you had 28 individuals who had voted. I did not vote, and if we were to take Byron's and VP's word, they have also claimed of not voting, which leave only 15 of the 18 who had voted (maybe), but yet we have 28 confirmed votes. Of course it is possible, that some might vote without taking part in the thread, but on the subject you had presented, I have my doubts. The only conclusion that I can reach is, you have almost 50% votes cast in this poll as not being reliable. This is the reason why I do not cast a "secret" vote. Lets have an open vote and see what the figures are. There is no need to hide behind the keyboards on this one.!
I appreciate this and it's a shame people are so devious, and have so little else to give their lives meaning, that they would devote time and energy to such a futile pursuit.
I do believe, however, that what is most revealing about this particular poll is how reluctant people who
did vote for the dismemberment of Cyprus have been to reveal themselves.
It is something they are clearly ashamed of. (Unless you're suggesting all 10 dismemberment votes have been cast by a devious VP et al., under different guises)
I believe what we now have here on CF is a wedge between the believers of true union, proud, professed Cypriot patriots, and those treacherous and I might add racist cowards whose allegiances lie elsewhere; who are so motivated by hatred they are prepared to give up part of their country to foreigners, forever! What am I saying? ALL of their country.
This wedge to me is a victory.
Kikapu wrote: Anyone who is aware of the story behind "Animal Farm" also understands that calling someone a "PIG" relating to this story, as I did with VP, knows full well that I was not calling VP a PIG or anyone else for that matter, and VP understands this very well. I would not be so insensitive to call anyone a PIG, specially anyone from the Muslim religious community, whether they practice their religion or not. I do however call VP what he is very openly, which is, a Racist Fascist NeoPartitionist who has disregards for the Rule of Law, Democracy and Human Rights, as well as protecting criminals accused of murder and those commiting sins of HARAM by stealing others properties and selling them to others, which he himself has many times confirmed to us all, regarding his lack of HUMANITY through his postings.!
I have come to believe that, far from being a NeoPartitionist devil, VP is actually more of a devil's advocate; playing a rehearsed role to goad the other side, because he is in pain, angry and feels a sense of injustice. The uncompromising and aggressive reaction he inspires - motivated itself by pain, anger and a sense of injustice - makes VP feel better about the situation and the continuing illegalities in the north, which I believe he is uncomfortable with.
"See? How can we possibly reunite with such hateful, vengeful people?" We're both better off as we are."
It is, however, ultimately a pointless, zero-sum game, which I'd like to help change. Which I think all of us would like to see change, including VP.
Otherwise, why are any of us here?
