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[The Cypriot]

Well , I'm a Cypriot first and foremost and a G/C be default !!!
Just think if all Cypriots felt as I do and of course as indeed thousands of other Cypriots feel. There would be no Cyprob to solve , no majority / minority issues and political parties open to all .
I hate the fact that some Cypriots can only feel comfortable with them selves at being either G/Cs or T/Cs .
LONG LIVE THE ETHNOS OF CYPRUS !!

Milt, you can feel anyway you like, there's nothing wrong with that and I personally like the way you feel. Unfortunately how we feel and the realities surrounding us are 2 different things sometimes.

DT , can you answer this. My daughter was born in the UK , her mother , my wife is English and I of course born in Stroumbi The Great in Paphos.
What is my daughters "ethnicity" ?
I say she is half English , half G/C but above all she feels that she is a Cypriot , nothing mainland Greek about her , would you agree ?
My grandchildren have nothing mainland Greek about them .Their father born in Cyprus , a G/C and as mentioned above their mother half and half , the children both born in Cyprus are 100% Cypriots !!
Here is what a 100% Cypriot looks like at a year old !!!

By enlarging the image you can see the "turnups" and the massive bulge !! Just like grandad .!!

Milti. I always enjoy reading your posts. They are full of pride and passion. You are a proud Cypriot and a proud grandfather and I have the utmost respect for you.

But this argument about ethnicity is a red herring. Let people be what they want to be; and what they're comfortable with. It doesn't matter.

What matters is their allegiance to the motherland. And as you can see, most Cypriots – and indeed most of our friends – are with you! They believe in Cyprus, not 82%, but 100%.

[Simon]

Miltiades,

What DT and others are trying to say is that we are Greeks of Cyprus, not Greece. So our allegiance first and foremost is to Cyprus. But this does not stop us being Greek. Being ethnically "Greek" does not only belong to Greece, it belongs to Cyprus also and the diaspora around the world. Greece does not have the monopoly on this. In fact, Greek Cypriots are probably closer to the ancient Greeks than what mainland Greeks are. Your grandchildren aren't going to have a connection with the mainland because you don't. Your connection is to Cyprus and therefore so is hers. This doesn't stop her being Greek.

So our nationality is Cypriot and Cyprus is our home, and we are ethnically Greek. Now can we stop going over the same thing and start focusing on issues that may actually help reunification please!

[The Cypriot]

Miltiades,

What DT and others are trying to say is that we are Greeks of Cyprus, not Greece. So our allegiance first and foremost is to Cyprus. But this does not stop us being Greek. Being ethnically "Greek" does not only belong to Greece, it belongs to Cyprus also and the diaspora around the world. Greece does not have the monopoly on this. In fact, Greek Cypriots are probably closer to the ancient Greeks than what mainland Greeks are. Your grandaughter isn't going to have a connection with the mainland because you don't. Your connection is to Cyprus and therefore so is hers. This doesn't stop her being Greek.

So our nationality is Cypriot and Cyprus is our home, and we are ethnically Greek. Now can we stop going over the same thing and start focusing on issues that may actually help reunification please!

What did you vote for, Simon?

[miltiades]

Miltiades,

What DT and others are trying to say is that we are Greeks of Cyprus, not Greece. So our allegiance first and foremost is to Cyprus. But this does not stop us being Greek. Being ethnically "Greek" does not only belong to Greece, it belongs to Cyprus also and the diaspora around the world. Greece does not have the monopoly on this. In fact, Greek Cypriots are probably closer to the ancient Greeks than what mainland Greeks are. Your grandchildren aren't going to have a connection with the mainland because you don't. Your connection is to Cyprus and therefore so is hers. This doesn't stop her being Greek.

So our nationality is Cypriot and Cyprus is our home, and we are ethnically Greek. Now can we stop going over the same thing and start focusing on issues that may actually help reunification please!

Simon you have been on the forum for a long time now. You must know I have always referred to G/Cs and T/Cs , have never instigated that either the G/Cs or T/Cs should be referred to as some people do Greek or Turkish speaking Cypriots.
What binds us together is our motherland Cyprus. Denis , Kikapu Bir and so many other T/Cs feel predominantly as I do , Cypriot.That is what matters that the people of Cyprus give their allegiance to their true motherland.
I would never in a million years look at Deniz or any other of my Cypriot compatriots and think of them as part of a minority. I group them all as Cypriots , if they are a minority then so am I .
I fully comprehend the complex definitions of what constitutes ethnicity and nationality , frankly I dont give a damn , if you are a Cypriot then you are of the same ethnicity as I'm , a Cypriot.

[Get Real!]

There is no such thing as a Cypriot ETHNOS.

Says who? You and the rest of your EOKA B chums?

[Get Real!]

I fully agree with DT.

That's because you too are an EOKA B boy...

[The Cypriot]

GR!

Both DT and Piratis voted for, and I quote:

"One new, reunited Cyprus where all citizens are equal, are Cypriot without distinction, and have to swear allegiance to a new single Cypriot nation within the EU."

What more do you want?

[Get Real!]

I will tell you however that there's more chance of your ancestors being arabs rather than aboriginal Cypriots.

So that would make you a "Hellenic" Arab eh? See how easily EOKA B boys get their knickers in a twist?

[Get Real!]

GR!

Both DT and Piratis voted for, and I quote:

"One new, reunited Cyprus where all citizens are equal, are Cypriot without distinction, and have to swear allegiance to a new single Cypriot nation within the EU."

What more do you want?

What difference does it make what they voted when they then come up with treasonous crap like… "There is no such thing as a Cypriot ETHNOS." !

I don’t trust such half-baked Cypriotism. It reminds me so much of pre-74 rhetoric and look what that led us to…

And this coming from a kid who didn't even exist back then! DT should first find out what life was like with Greece up your arse before making such stupid statements, from those who experienced it.

[denizaksulu]

How old is DT? Is it a state secret?