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[DT.]

Only one option is and should be , the one that all peace loving Cypriots would exercise , the unity of our island intact not having parts of it torn and given to foreign countries.

Cyprus's heart must be very heavy having to be denied the right to exist as a nation in its own merit. Strangely enough all international organizations from the UN to the EU recognise Cyprus as an independent country with its own unique identity. Our passports IDs , foreign embassies all have the Cypriot entity yet those that deny Cyprus its divine right of statehood are confused Cypriots who are themselves in denial of their real identity.
LONG LIVE THE CYPRUS E T H N O S !

There is no such thing as a Cypriot ETHNOS.

There is a Cypriot state of which we are proud members but 82% of this state is ethnically Greek.

Just like 98% of the Austrian population is German yet they are still proud to be Austrians.

http://www.nationsencyclopedia.com/econ ... stria.html

Get over this insecurity because you're overcompensating by creating things that simply are not there. I am proud to be a Cypriot, swore my allegiance to the Republic of Cyprus when I did my service and follow the Cypriot National football team religiously (threw the last one in for good measure). BUT I AM NOT ETHNICALLY CYPRIOT SAME AS AN AUSTRIAN IS NOT ETHNICALLY AUSTRIAN.

BTW naturally I voted for option 1

I still want to know who were the Cypriots who lived on this island some 8600 before the Greeks arrived!! Convince me that during this huge period of time my ancestors were not around in Cyprus as Cypriots and that they were introduced to Cyprus by the Greeks and then I may begin to doubt the Ethnos Of Cyprus.

ps. Is there an Australian Ethnos , or an American ?
I also think that Austrians would disagree with you !!

Milt I'm not going to get into this with you as I believe that you have all dragged this out way more than it should have. I will tell you however that there's more chance of your ancestors being arabs rather than aboriginal Cypriots.

[DT.]

Only one option is and should be , the one that all peace loving Cypriots would exercise , the unity of our island intact not having parts of it torn and given to foreign countries.

Cyprus's heart must be very heavy having to be denied the right to exist as a nation in its own merit. Strangely enough all international organizations from the UN to the EU recognise Cyprus as an independent country with its own unique identity. Our passports IDs , foreign embassies all have the Cypriot entity yet those that deny Cyprus its divine right of statehood are confused Cypriots who are themselves in denial of their real identity.
LONG LIVE THE CYPRUS E T H N O S !

There is no such thing as a Cypriot ETHNOS.

There is a Cypriot state of which we are proud members but 82% of this state is ethnically Greek.

Just like 98% of the Austrian population is German yet they are still proud to be Austrians.

http://www.nationsencyclopedia.com/econ ... stria.html

Get over this insecurity because you're overcompensating by creating things that simply are not there. I am proud to be a Cypriot, swore my allegiance to the Republic of Cyprus when I did my service and follow the Cypriot National football team religiously (threw the last one in for good measure). BUT I AM NOT ETHNICALLY CYPRIOT SAME AS AN AUSTRIAN IS NOT ETHNICALLY AUSTRIAN.

BTW naturally I voted for option 1

I still want to know who were the Cypriots who lived on this island some 8600 before the Greeks arrived!! Convince me that during this huge period of time my ancestors were not around in Cyprus as Cypriots and that they were introduced to Cyprus by the Greeks and then I may begin to doubt the Ethnos Of Cyprus.

ps. Is there an Australian Ethnos , or an American ?
I also think that Austrians would disagree with you !!

Milt I'm not going to get into this with you as I believe that you have all dragged this out way more than it should have. I will tell you however that there's more chance of your ancestors being arabs rather than aboriginal Cypriots.

BTW how many ethnic Americans and ethnic Australians do you know?

And I know as a fact (do a lot of business in Austria) that Austrians are proud to be Austrian but if you ask them what they are they'll say ethnically they are German.

[miltiades]

Well , I'm a Cypriot first and foremost and a G/C be default !!!
Just think if all Cypriots felt as I do and of course as indeed thousands of other Cypriots feel. There would be no Cyprob to solve , no majority / minority issues and political parties open to all .
I hate the fact that some Cypriots can only feel comfortable with them selves at being either G/Cs or T/Cs .
LONG LIVE THE ETHNOS OF CYPRUS !!

[DT.]

Well , I'm a Cypriot first and foremost and a G/C be default !!!
Just think if all Cypriots felt as I do and of course as indeed thousands of other Cypriots feel. There would be no Cyprob to solve , no majority / minority issues and political parties open to all .
I hate the fact that some Cypriots can only feel comfortable with them selves at being either G/Cs or T/Cs .
LONG LIVE THE ETHNOS OF CYPRUS !!

Milt, you can feel anyway you like, there's nothing wrong with that and I personally like the way you feel. Unfortunately how we feel and the realities surrounding us are 2 different things sometimes.

[paliometoxo]

and im sure the polish in england want their own state beiung a minority but they dont always get what they ant.. turks who want partition should just bugger off back to turkey

[denizaksulu]

and im sure the polish in england want their own state beiung a minority but they dont always get what they ant.. turks who want partition should just bugger off back to turkey

I am sure that the Polish people or indeed any other ethnic people live in the UK as equals. They are not treated as second class citizens purely because they are from a different background.

Ideally, the same should be true in a United Cprus Republic. Do you have any objection to that? Or will you look at a name or religion and say, 'Hey, you. Get to the back of the queue!!

[miltiades]

and im sure the polish in england want their own state beiung a minority but they dont always get what they ant.. turks who want partition should just bugger off back to turkey

I am sure that the Polish people or indeed any other ethnic people live in the UK as equals. They are not treated as second class citizens purely because they are from a different background.

Ideally, the same should be true in a United Cyprus Republic. Do you have any objection to that? Or will you look at a name or religion and say, 'Hey, you. Get to the back of the queue!!

I doubt whether many British citizens from minority ethnicities give a toss about being a minority . The thought never crosses my mind because I feel as British as the next man , those who have refused to "blend" in might very well feel alienated but that is their problem .
All Cypriots are part of the overwhelming majority if their allegiance is to the nation of Cyprus and not to either Greece or Turkey.

[denizaksulu]

and im sure the polish in england want their own state beiung a minority but they dont always get what they ant.. turks who want partition should just bugger off back to turkey

I am sure that the Polish people or indeed any other ethnic people live in the UK as equals. They are not treated as second class citizens purely because they are from a different background.

Ideally, the same should be true in a United Cyprus Republic. Do you have any objection to that? Or will you look at a name or religion and say, 'Hey, you. Get to the back of the queue!!

I doubt whether many British citizens from minority ethnicities give a toss about being a minority . The thought never crosses my mind because I feel as British as the next man , those who have refused to "blend" in might very well feel alienated but that is their problem .
All Cypriots are part of the overwhelming majority if their allegiance is to the nation of Cyprus and not to either Greece or Turkey.

You are right Miltiades Because their rights are safeguarded. This is what a large number of TC's fear most. Eventually this issue MUST be addressed.

[The Cypriot]

However one feels about one's ethnicity what matters is one's allegiance to Cyprus – and its clear that the vast majority of Cypriots here (so far) would put the unity of their island first, and certainly before their ethnicity.

I, for one, am relieved and gratified. Other Cypriots – and the world – should take note! (Perhaps 'Cyprus Mail' could do an article. I understand their journalists read the forum).

It's very interesting that only people who voted for Real Unity have been willing to disclose their identity, while the few so far who voted Agreed Partition have chosen to remain anonymous. It would be nice to know why they've not shown themselves. (Perhaps we can only speculate).

I'd like to know, if you are Cypriot and voted for partition, why you would be willing to give up a percentage – any percentage – of your island when you are offered full equality, as a Cypriot citizen, without distinction, in a truly united EU country.

I'd also like to know, if you are not Cypriot but have affinities with the island, why you would support its dismemberment, and whether you'd support the same for your own country.

[miltiades]

Well , I'm a Cypriot first and foremost and a G/C be default !!!
Just think if all Cypriots felt as I do and of course as indeed thousands of other Cypriots feel. There would be no Cyprob to solve , no majority / minority issues and political parties open to all .
I hate the fact that some Cypriots can only feel comfortable with them selves at being either G/Cs or T/Cs .
LONG LIVE THE ETHNOS OF CYPRUS !!

Milt, you can feel anyway you like, there's nothing wrong with that and I personally like the way you feel. Unfortunately how we feel and the realities surrounding us are 2 different things sometimes.

DT , can you answer this. My daughter was born in the UK , her mother , my wife is English and I of course born in Stroumbi The Great in Paphos.
What is my daughters "ethnicity" ?
I say she is half English , half G/C but above all she feels that she is a Cypriot , nothing mainland Greek about her , would you agree ?
My grandchildren have nothing mainland Greek about them .Their father born in Cyprus , a G/C and as mentioned above their mother half and half , the children both born in Cyprus are 100% Cypriots !!
Here is what a 100% Cypriot looks like at a year old !!!

By enlarging the image you can see the "turnups" and the massive bulge !! Just like grandad .!!