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[YFred]

at this rate there never will be, turkey is not allowing any kind of solution that is acceptable.

Palio, there has to be a solution that is acceptable to both sides. It just can’t please everyone on both sides.

[paliometoxo]

yes a solution that suits both sides.. and partition is not what suits the south like turkey keeps on insisting for

[CBBB]

yes a solution that suits both sides.. and partition is not what suits the south like turkey keeps on insisting for

I don't think partition suits the north either.

[YFred]

yes a solution that suits both sides.. and partition is not what suits the south like turkey keeps on insisting for

I don't think partition suits the north either.

Majority of TC would like a solution with the GCs, not partition (Taksim) and not joining with Turkey. But if GC will not play ball, then the other choices do come into play.

[utu]

Majority of TC would like a solution with the GCs, not partition (Taksim) and not joining with Turkey. But if GC will not play ball, then the other choices do come into play.

Both sides accuse the other of "not playing ball", YFred. In regards to the administration that is obstensively governing the north, they may be elected by their constituents, but elected or not, they will not have the final word as the territory north of the Green Line is not governed from their parliament, but from next door, at the Turkish Embassy. Therefore, the people living up there may not have their wishes listened to...

[YFred]

Majority of TC would like a solution with the GCs, not partition (Taksim) and not joining with Turkey. But if GC will not play ball, then the other choices do come into play.

Both sides accuse the other of "not playing ball", YFred. In regards to the administration that is obstensively governing the north, they may be elected by their constituents, but elected or not, they will not have the final word as the territory north of the Green Line is not governed from their parliament, but from next door, at the Turkish Embassy. Therefore, the people living up there may not have their wishes listened to...

Et Tu UTU?
Turkish Cypriots have been swimming against the tide for years, you are right, but we have finally got to a stage where Turkey has seen sense. Do you not see any difference between 80s 90s and now. They spent decades stopping Talat coming to power, and before him Ozgur. Turkey is on the same wavelength with Talat now thanks to AKP. If the government in Turkey changes and the old hawks come to power then I can understand your pessimism.

[utu]

Et Tu UTU?
Turkish Cypriots have been swimming against the tide for years, you are right, but we have finally got to a stage where Turkey has seen sense. Do you not see any difference between 80s 90s and now. They spent decades stopping Talat coming to power, and before him Ozgur. Turkey is on the same wavelength with Talat now thanks to AKP. If the government in Turkey changes and the old hawks come to power then I can understand your pessimism.

I'm pessimistic because of the failures that have come before. And don't forget that the Turkish military still has a lot of clout in Ankara. They see Cyprus as a strategic matter and that is going to be something they are not going to willingly give up...

[YFred]

Et Tu UTU?
Turkish Cypriots have been swimming against the tide for years, you are right, but we have finally got to a stage where Turkey has seen sense. Do you not see any difference between 80s 90s and now. They spent decades stopping Talat coming to power, and before him Ozgur. Turkey is on the same wavelength with Talat now thanks to AKP. If the government in Turkey changes and the old hawks come to power then I can understand your pessimism.

I'm pessimistic because of the failures that have come before. And don't forget that the Turkish military still has a lot of clout in Ankara. They see Cyprus as a strategic matter and that is going to be something they are not going to willingly give up...

They will if Greeks play ball. There are bigger gains with an agreement than without.

[insan]

yes a solution that suits both sides.. and partition is not what suits the south like turkey keeps on insisting for

I don't think partition suits the north either.

If GCs insist on majority rule. Partition suits North. Partition does not mean annexation with Turkey. Our situation wouldn't be any different than the south of Cyprus if partition achieved.

Even i could claim that partition is better than a solution where 2 main communities of Cyprus share the ruling power equally because it is obvious that there is still an on going rivalry between 2 communities. Although left wingers of both sides have less political differences and are more peaceful than the right wingers; It is obvious to me that among right wingers of both sides there would be very intense rivalry, disputes and even gang fights(even maybe provocative bombings and assassinations- because of "treason") on many internal and international issues that would cause tensiones and uneasiness on whole Cypriots. Bananiot alike Cypriots must be too careful in a united Cyprus.