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der spiegel: greece on the verge of bankruptcy

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Postby kurupetos » Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:40 pm

Mr. T wrote:
kurupetos wrote:The RoC economy is thriving! We recently ordered the most modern, state-of-the-art main battle tank type of the Russian military: the T-90. 41 of them coming soon and they will be ready for you. :)

I only speak a few words of Greek but presume your names translates into Corrupted in English.

It looks as though corruption may have been involved in the process to purchase these tanks when decent tanks could have been bought instead.
Having said that it probably doesn't really matter as missiles from Turkish jets could destroy them in seconds.

' The T-90 is not a new tank but an evolution of the T-72 design and offers little in the way of an advantage over the tanks entering service in the last years of the Soviet Union. At the beginning of the 1990s when the Soviet Union collapsed, two tanks were still in production: the T-80U developed by the Spetsmash Design Bureau in Leningrad and the T-72B which had been developed by the Vagonka Design Bureau at the Uralvagon plant in Nizhni Tagil. The T-80U was the more sophisticated of the two with a superior fire-control system and a gas turbine engine. This was reflected in the price tag of the two tanks, the T-80U being offered for export for $2 million and the T-72 for about $1.2 million. The imposition of 'defence sufficiency' during the Gorbachev era and then the collapse of the Soviet Union had a catastrophic effect on the Russian tank industry. The Russian Federation could no longer keep on procuring two types of main battle tank, but selecting one over another would be catastrophic for the loosing city and so continued buying both tanks in small numbers. The two plants kept on producing tanks in the hope of further orders from the Russian Army or a large export order. Nizhni Tagil started upgrading the T-72B with the third generation of Kontakt-5 explosive reactive armour (which has already been added to the T-80U) developed by NII Stali (Scientific Research Institute for Steel). This produced the T-72BM, which saw limited service in the Chechen conflict. While the T-72 has traditionally been fitted with less sophisticated fire controls than the T-80 (as it was intended for second-line Soviet units and political allies) the Vagonka Design Bureau decided to make the T-72 much more competitive against the T-80 by adding the T-80's fire control system. The result was the T-72BU, although it was decided to rename the tank the T-90 to distance it from the T-72A that had performed poorly in both the Gulf War and to a lesser extent the Chechen conflict. Due to the T-80 having a bad reputation for high fuel consumption, a short engine life and the losses they suffered in Chechnya the decision was taken to gradually move over to the T-90 with production of T-80Us continuing for a period of time to prevent economic hardship and to generate export orders.'


During a reported test conducted by the Russian military in 1999 the T-90 was exposed to a variety of RPG, ATGM and APFSDS munitions. When equipped with Kontakt-5 ERA the T-90 could not be penetrated with any of the APFSDS or ATGM used during the trial and outperformed a T-80U which also took part.


The T-90 is fitted with a "three-tiered" protection systems: First tier is the Russian version of Chobham armour in the turret; consisting of basic armour shell with an insert of alternating layers of aluminum and plastics and a controlled deformation section, composite armour. The Second tier is third generation Kontakt-5 ERA explosive reactive armor which significantly degrade the penetrating power of kinetic-energy APFSDS ammunition and also these ERA blocks give the turret its distinctive angled "clam shell" appearance. ERA bricks are also located on the turret roof and provide protection from top-attack weapons. The turrets forward armour package in addition to the ERA and steel plating contains a composite filler sandwiched of Russian version of Chobham armour between upper and lower steel plates, the composite armour takes advange lower weight and improve protection when compared with steel plate.
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Postby EPSILON » Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:44 pm

turkkan wrote:gavur, if you can post about turkey we can post about greece. Now go cry about kyrenia.


Hopes , hopes, Greece is going to bunkrapt, Greece is the worst country in EU, Greece, Greece the black sheap of Europe.

Unfortunately for you and spigel we are still ok and the only country in EU with possitive mark on economy grouth and top of all the interntional crisis has not yet passed our boarders.

Take care of your third world occupied Cyprus and your 4th world motherland and do not worry about Greece.We found our way-try to find yours.
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