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[Paphitis]

In the Bronze Age the first cities, like Enkomi, were built. Systematic copper mining began, and this resource was widely traded. The Cypriot syllabic script was first used in early phases of the late Bronze Age (LCIB) and continued in use for ca. 500 years into the to LC IIIB, maybe up to the second half of the eleventh century BC. Most scholars believe it was used for a native Cypriot language (Eteocypriot) that survived until the 4th century BC, but the actual proofs for this are scant, as the tablets still have not been completely deciphered.

But in order to enrichen the debate, here are some known facts:

Cyprus is the mythical birthplace of Aphrodite, Adonis and home to King Cinyras, Teucer and Pygmalion.[12] The earliest confirmed site of human activity is Aetokremnos, situated on the south coast, indicating that hunter-gatherers were active on the island from around 10,000 BC, with settled, village communities dating from 8200 BC. Important remains from this early Neolithic period can be found at Shillourokambos, Kastros, and Khirokitia, where decorated pottery and figurines of stone quite distinct from the cultures of the surrounding mainland survive. The Mycenaean Greeks first reached Cyprus around 1600 BC, with settlements dating from this period scattered all over the island. Another wave of Greek settlement is believed to have taken place in the period 1100-1050 BC, with the island's predominantly Greek character dating from this period. Several Phoenician colonies were founded in the 8th century BC, like Kart-Hadasht ('New Town'), near present day Larnaca and Salamis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyprus

Now lets look at the extent to which Choirokitia flourished in Cypriot prehistory:

Choirokoitia

Choirokoitia (also known as Khirokitia) is one of the most important prehistorical sites in the eastern Mediterranean area. The site is only partly recovered, and archaelogical work is still going on.

Human life in Choirokoitia started around 7000 BC, in the Neolithicum. Where the people came from is not known for sure. It is possible that the neolithic villages on Cyprus were a result of colonization from the Middle East.

What do we know about the people that lived here? The village probably had about 300 inhabitants. They practised agriculture and animal husbandry, and didn't usually live longer than 35 years. One of their most remarkable customs was to bury their dead under the floors of the houses of the living relatives. In this way the dead remained close to the living.

http://www.worldheritagesite.org/sites/ ... oitia.html

The settlement of Khirokitia is situated on the slope of a hill in the valley of the Maroni River towards the southern coast of the island about 6 km from the sea.

Subsistence methods practiced by its Neolithic inhabitants included farming crops and herding cattle.

It is a closed village, cut off from the outside world, apart from by the river, by a strong wall of stones 2.5 m thick and 3 m at its highest preserved level. Access into the village was probably via several entry points through the wall.

The buildings within this wall consist of round structures huddled close together. The lower parts of these buildings are often of stone and attain massive proportions by constant additions of further skins of stones. Their external diameter varies between 2.3 m and 9.20 m while the internal diameter is only between 1.4 m and 4.80 m. A collapsed flat roof of one building found recently indicates that not all roofs were dome shaped as was originally believed.

The internal divisions of each hut were according to the purpose of its usage. Low walls, platforms designated work, rest or storage areas. They had hearths presumably used for cooking and heating, benches and windows and in many cases there is evidence of piers to support an upper floor. It is believed that the huts were like rooms several of which were grouped around an open courtyard and together formed the home.

The population of the village at any one time is thought not to have exceeded 300 to 600 inhabitants. The people were rather short - the men about 1.61 m on average and the women about 1.51 m. Infant mortality was very high and life expectancy was about 22 years. On average adult men reached 35 years of age and women 33. The dead were buried in crouched positions just under the floors of the houses. In some instances provision was made for offerings so presumably a form of ancestor cult existed inside households.

http://www.mlahanas.de/Cyprus/Geo/Choirokoitia.html

[miltiades]

""" The earliest confirmed site of human activity is Aetokremnos, situated on the south coast, indicating that hunter-gatherers were active on the island from around 10,000 BC, with settled, village communities dating from 8200 BC. Important remains from this early Neolithic period can be found at Shillourokambos, Kastros, and Khirokitia, where decorated pottery and figurines of stone quite distinct from the cultures of the surrounding mainland survive. The Mycenaean Greeks first reached Cyprus around 1600 BC, with settlements dating from this period scattered all over the island. Another wave of Greek settlement is believed to have taken place in the period 1100-1050 BC, with the island's predominantly Greek character dating from this period. Several Phoenician colonies were founded in the 8th century BC, like Kart-Hadasht ('New Town'), near present day Larnaca and Salamis."""

I wonder who inhabited Cyprus for some 8400 YEARS BEFORE THE MYCENAEAN GREEKS ! Certainly MY OWN forefathers since I m a true Cypriot who believes in the sanctity of the Cypriot ethnicity whether Greek influenced or otherwise.

[Paphitis]

""" The earliest confirmed site of human activity is Aetokremnos, situated on the south coast, indicating that hunter-gatherers were active on the island from around 10,000 BC, with settled, village communities dating from 8200 BC. Important remains from this early Neolithic period can be found at Shillourokambos, Kastros, and Khirokitia, where decorated pottery and figurines of stone quite distinct from the cultures of the surrounding mainland survive. The Mycenaean Greeks first reached Cyprus around 1600 BC, with settlements dating from this period scattered all over the island. Another wave of Greek settlement is believed to have taken place in the period 1100-1050 BC, with the island's predominantly Greek character dating from this period. Several Phoenician colonies were founded in the 8th century BC, like Kart-Hadasht ('New Town'), near present day Larnaca and Salamis."""

I wonder who inhabited Cyprus for some 8400 YEARS BEFORE THE MYCENAEAN GREEKS ! Certainly MY OWN forefathers since I m a true Cypriot who believes in the sanctity of the Cypriot ethnicity whether Greek influenced or otherwise.

About 3oo Choirokitians lived in Cyprus from 7,000BC who either:

1) became extinct, or
2) blended in with the massive Mycenaean migration waves into Cyprus from 1600BC and onwards.

What is known is that Cyprus was mostly uninhabited when the Greeks started to arrive.

[YFred]

""" The earliest confirmed site of human activity is Aetokremnos, situated on the south coast, indicating that hunter-gatherers were active on the island from around 10,000 BC, with settled, village communities dating from 8200 BC. Important remains from this early Neolithic period can be found at Shillourokambos, Kastros, and Khirokitia, where decorated pottery and figurines of stone quite distinct from the cultures of the surrounding mainland survive. The Mycenaean Greeks first reached Cyprus around 1600 BC, with settlements dating from this period scattered all over the island. Another wave of Greek settlement is believed to have taken place in the period 1100-1050 BC, with the island's predominantly Greek character dating from this period. Several Phoenician colonies were founded in the 8th century BC, like Kart-Hadasht ('New Town'), near present day Larnaca and Salamis."""

I wonder who inhabited Cyprus for some 8400 YEARS BEFORE THE MYCENAEAN GREEKS ! Certainly MY OWN forefathers since I m a true Cypriot who believes in the sanctity of the Cypriot ethnicity whether Greek influenced or otherwise.

Miltiades, please stop having a go at all our settlers, particulary the Hellenes, we love them to death.

[Get Real!]

About 3oo Choirokitians lived in Cyprus from 7,000BC who either:

1) became extinct, or
2) blended in with the massive Mycenaean migration waves into Cyprus from 1600BC and onwards.

What is known is that Cyprus was mostly uninhabited when the Greeks started to arrive.

Rubbish! There is not a shred of evidence that ANY Mycenaeans ever came to Cyprus!

Post a link that PROVIDES IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE that Mycenaeans came and settled in Cyprus.

And btw, the ”Hellenic” fantasy is that a bunch of Mycenaean refugees came and settled at around 1200BC, not a “massive migration” at 1600BC like you’ve invented!

[EPSILON]

About 3oo Choirokitians lived in Cyprus from 7,000BC who either:

1) became extinct, or
2) blended in with the massive Mycenaean migration waves into Cyprus from 1600BC and onwards.

What is known is that Cyprus was mostly uninhabited when the Greeks started to arrive.

Rubbish! There is not a shred of evidence that ANY Mycenaeans ever came to Cyprus!

Post a link that PROVIDES IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE that Mycenaeans came and settled in Cyprus.

And btw, the ”Hellenic” fantasy is that a bunch of Mycenaean refugees came and settled at around 1200BC, not a “massive migration” at 1600BC like you’ve invented!

And you just speak Greek because Greeks invated Cyprus in 1974!!!!!1

[Get Real!]

About 3oo Choirokitians lived in Cyprus from 7,000BC who either:

1) became extinct, or
2) blended in with the massive Mycenaean migration waves into Cyprus from 1600BC and onwards.

What is known is that Cyprus was mostly uninhabited when the Greeks started to arrive.

Rubbish! There is not a shred of evidence that ANY Mycenaeans ever came to Cyprus!

Post a link that PROVIDES IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE that Mycenaeans came and settled in Cyprus.

And btw, the ”Hellenic” fantasy is that a bunch of Mycenaean refugees came and settled at around 1200BC, not a “massive migration” at 1600BC like you’ve invented!

And you just speak Greek because Greeks invated Cyprus in 1974!!!!!1

But who invented the language we call “Greek” today? That’s what you should be asking yourself…

[EPSILON]

About 3oo Choirokitians lived in Cyprus from 7,000BC who either:

1) became extinct, or
2) blended in with the massive Mycenaean migration waves into Cyprus from 1600BC and onwards.

What is known is that Cyprus was mostly uninhabited when the Greeks started to arrive.

Rubbish! There is not a shred of evidence that ANY Mycenaeans ever came to Cyprus!

Post a link that PROVIDES IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE that Mycenaeans came and settled in Cyprus.

And btw, the ”Hellenic” fantasy is that a bunch of Mycenaean refugees came and settled at around 1200BC, not a “massive migration” at 1600BC like you’ve invented!

And you just speak Greek because Greeks invated Cyprus in 1974!!!!!1

But who invented the language we call “Greek” today? That’s what you should be asking yourself…

I am waiting your lights on this. Maybe Afghans, Mongolians,,who knows what you can suggest here?

[Paphitis]

About 3oo Choirokitians lived in Cyprus from 7,000BC who either:

1) became extinct, or
2) blended in with the massive Mycenaean migration waves into Cyprus from 1600BC and onwards.

What is known is that Cyprus was mostly uninhabited when the Greeks started to arrive.

Rubbish! There is not a shred of evidence that ANY Mycenaeans ever came to Cyprus!

Post a link that PROVIDES IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE that Mycenaeans came and settled in Cyprus.

And btw, the ”Hellenic” fantasy is that a bunch of Mycenaean refugees came and settled at around 1200BC, not a “massive migration” at 1600BC like you’ve invented!

I can do much better than give you a link.

Have you ever been to Salamina, Enkomi or Kourion?




Kourion was said to have been founded by the Argives.[1][2] Stesenor, its sovereign, betrayed the cause of his country during the war against the Persians. (Herod. l. c.) Near the town was a cape (Φρούριον, Ptol. v. 14. § 2), from which sacrilegious offenders who had dared to touch the altar of Apollo were thrown into the sea. (Strab. l. c.). The city has passed through different phases from a Hellenistic, Roman, and Christian periods. For this reason the city has a very large Agora (market place) and you can find an early Christian Basilica as well within the city walls. Furthermore, large public baths which were equipped with cold, warm and hot spas, as well in the city and a nymphium is found with large octagonal swimming pool. In the large amphitheatre which sits 2000 spectators mostly gladiator games were held, therefore in the city there is Palestra or a training place for gladiators. The whole city has beautiful floor mosaics and they are mostly found in the house of Achileas and the private bath of the founder of the city.

Three kilometers from the city is the sanctuary of Apollo which has stunning Cypro-Corinthian columns. On the same location there exists place of worship for a woodland god dating back to 6000 BC. In between Kourion and the sanctuary of Apollo a stadium that is around 400 m long is found; this stadium could sit up to 7,000 spectators who would watch ancient Greek sports. This magnificent city is believed to have been destroyed in the 4th century when a series of 5 strong earthquakes hit the city in a period of 80 years, and this inevitably brought an end to the city as it was known.[3]

[Get Real!]

About 3oo Choirokitians lived in Cyprus from 7,000BC who either:

1) became extinct, or
2) blended in with the massive Mycenaean migration waves into Cyprus from 1600BC and onwards.

What is known is that Cyprus was mostly uninhabited when the Greeks started to arrive.

Rubbish! There is not a shred of evidence that ANY Mycenaeans ever came to Cyprus!

Post a link that PROVIDES IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE that Mycenaeans came and settled in Cyprus.

And btw, the ”Hellenic” fantasy is that a bunch of Mycenaean refugees came and settled at around 1200BC, not a “massive migration” at 1600BC like you’ve invented!

I can do much better than give you a link.

Like waste my time with miscellaneous irrelevant junk posts?

Have you ever been to Salamina, Enkomi or Kourion?

No, I've been waiting for you to take me there...

[i]Kourion was said to have been founded by the Argives.[1][2] Stesenor,...

About turn! Forward march!