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[Paphitis]

*1400 BC Mycenaeans reach the island as settlers. First use of The Cypriot syllabic scriptin (LCIB).
* 1300-1200 Several waves of Achaean Greeks come to settle on the island bringing with them the Greek language, their religion, their customs. BC Late Cypriot (LC) IIC, local prosperity, re-building of cities.
* 1200-1100 BC: end of the late Bronze Age (LCIIIA). Local production Mycenaean pottery
* 1100-1050: latest bronze Age (LCIIIB,), introduction of a new type of grave, Mycenean influences in pottery decoration.

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedi ... -of-Cyprus

[Get Real!]

I accept historical records that indicate the arrival of the Mycenaeans at around 1200 bc , what I ponder over is who were those Cypriots that inhabited the island for some 8600 years before the Mycenaeans arrived !! Most certainly they were the true Cypriots so some of us must have evolved from those early natives.

Our Greek heritage, being more recent, is much much more certain than that.

The Shirokitians were just a small village, that probably became extinct many thousands of years before the Greeks and the Phoenicians arrived.

Typical shallow-minded “Cypriot” looking for aggrandizement!

He is not happy that Choirokitia was a “small” settlement but wants a GRAND GOLDEN PALACE to be his heritage, so he finds the Greek mythological rubbish more alluring!

It goes to show how penny-wise and pound-foolish many people are…

Choirokitia is famous because it is the OLDEST civilized settlement and should NEVER be compared to what was being built 5,000 years later! Choirokitia is not the beginning and the end of ancient Cypriots like you seem to foolishly assume, but the FIRST KNOWN, as various other settlements followed. Cypriots never ceased to exist on the island.

[DT.]

I accept historical records that indicate the arrival of the Mycenaeans at around 1200 bc , what I ponder over is who were those Cypriots that inhabited the island for some 8600 years before the Mycenaeans arrived !! Most certainly they were the true Cypriots so some of us must have evolved from those early natives.

Our Greek heritage, being more recent, is much much more certain than that.

The Shirokitians were just a small village, that probably became extinct many thousands of years before the Greeks and the Phoenicians arrived.

Typical shallow-minded “Cypriot” looking for aggrandizement!

He is not happy that Choirokitia was a “small” settlement but wants a GRAND GOLDEN PALACE to be his heritage, so he finds the Greek mythological rubbish more alluring!

It goes to show how penny-wise and pound-foolish many people are…

Choirokitia is famous because it is the OLDEST civilized settlement and should NEVER be compared to what was being built 5,000 years later! Choirokitia is not the beginning and the end of ancient Cypriots like you seem to foolishly assume, but the FIRST KNOWN, as various other settlements followed. Cypriots never ceased to exist on the island.

considering that a Hellenic migration on this island did happen at some point and leaving aside who stole who's alphabet/culture etc..

what percentage of this population on the island do you think has a line stemming from the early inhabitants of settlements such as Chirokoitia?

[Byron]

Paphitis, once again you are posting a mere STORY with nothing to back it which is the STANDARD THESIS on the history of Cyprus! Where is the IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE that Mycenaeans came and settled in Cyprus? I can tell you now that you simply won't find any.

The truth is that Mycenaeans are INTENTIONALLY PLACED ON CYPRUS by some historians and/or archaeologists to coincide with the period lavish buildings began to be erected on Cyprus because Greeks had already MONOPOLIZED the fine art (with their campaign that began in the 1830s) so everyone else just goes along with it and the foolish Cypriots are only too happy to assist them with their mythologies!

Let’s have a look at how history is written…

Have a look at this explanation from the RoC government website about the Kourion in Paphos …

“According to tradition Kourion was founded by Argives in the 13th century BC, during the first wave of the Mycenaean expansion and others followed the Argives in the 12th century as a result of the Dorian invasion of Greece.”

According to tradition? Is that another word for mythology? Is that what history is all about… assumptions?

Here’s another from the Ancient Scripts site…

“According to tradition, Greek settlers colonized Cyprus around the 12th century BCE, and they likely adopted the Cypro-Minoan script for their own use…”

According to tradition again? Right, so how much from what we supposedly “know” is based on these “traditions”?

…an awful lot I’m afraid! Nothing but UNSUBSTANTIATED SPECULATION!


Did you know that when EteoCypriot is found inscribed on these ancient places like Amathus, they just ignore it and move on? How do you explain that?

When you start paying attention to the WHOLE PICTURE you realize that everything is twisted and turned and/or ignored and removed to support the “Hellenic” thesis because our foolish compatriots have climbed on the “Hellenic” bandwagon of lies and propaganda, something that became standard policy due to the shared Ottoman problem of the time.

We have had enough of your fanatical rubbish, Chiri this Chiri that, just stop it nobody apart from pea brains like you are interested. It does nothing to solve the Cyprus problem. Instead you are creating your own chat show for what purpose we do not know ?

It is clearly evident to any normal human being that current Greek Cypriots have Hellenic roots, only an idiot would say differently. Then again you are an idiot Go find a job and be useful for once instead of farting around copy pasting from the internet.

[Paphitis]

I accept historical records that indicate the arrival of the Mycenaeans at around 1200 bc , what I ponder over is who were those Cypriots that inhabited the island for some 8600 years before the Mycenaeans arrived !! Most certainly they were the true Cypriots so some of us must have evolved from those early natives.

Our Greek heritage, being more recent, is much much more certain than that.

The Shirokitians were just a small village, that probably became extinct many thousands of years before the Greeks and the Phoenicians arrived.

Typical shallow-minded “Cypriot” looking for aggrandizement!

He is not happy that Choirokitia was a “small” settlement but wants a GRAND GOLDEN PALACE to be his heritage, so he finds the Greek mythological rubbish more alluring!

It goes to show how penny-wise and pound-foolish many people are…

Choirokitia is famous because it is the OLDEST civilized settlement and should NEVER be compared to what was being built 5,000 years later! Choirokitia is not the beginning and the end of ancient Cypriots like you seem to foolishly assume, but the FIRST KNOWN, as various other settlements followed. Cypriots never ceased to exist on the island.

considering that a Hellenic migration on this island did happen at some point and leaving aside who stole who's alphabet/culture etc..

what percentage of this population on the island do you think has a line stemming from the early inhabitants of settlements such as Chirokoitia?

NEWSFLASH!

We now have Choirokitians living in stolen property in the name of "Peace"....

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=23258

[miltiades]

The fact is that a Cypriot indigenous community regardless of its size existed some 8600 or more before the Greeks arrived . Their descendants did not just disappear , we must presume that they continued to exist right up to the time that the Greeks arrived on the island , it is not improbable that many of us are the direct descendants of the earliest inhabitants of Cyprus whose forefathers were absorbed by a far more advanced civilization .

[Lit]

*1400 BC Mycenaeans reach the island as settlers. First use of The Cypriot syllabic scriptin (LCIB).
* 1300-1200 Several waves of Achaean Greeks come to settle on the island bringing with them the Greek language, their religion, their customs. BC Late Cypriot (LC) IIC, local prosperity, re-building of cities.
* 1200-1100 BC: end of the late Bronze Age (LCIIIA). Local production Mycenaean pottery
* 1100-1050: latest bronze Age (LCIIIB,), introduction of a new type of grave, Mycenean influences in pottery decoration.

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedi ... -of-Cyprus

So world encyclopedias like Britannica and the one above all say the same thing, yet we still have idiots like Milti and GR espousing drivel. Nicely done, Paph.

[Lit]

Paphitis, once again you are posting a mere STORY with nothing to back it which is the STANDARD THESIS on the history of Cyprus! Where is the IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE that Mycenaeans came and settled in Cyprus? I can tell you now that you simply won't find any.

The truth is that Mycenaeans are INTENTIONALLY PLACED ON CYPRUS by some historians and/or archaeologists to coincide with the period lavish buildings began to be erected on Cyprus because Greeks had already MONOPOLIZED the fine art (with their campaign that began in the 1830s) so everyone else just goes along with it and the foolish Cypriots are only too happy to assist them with their mythologies!

Let’s have a look at how history is written…

Have a look at this explanation from the RoC government website about the Kourion in Paphos …

“According to tradition Kourion was founded by Argives in the 13th century BC, during the first wave of the Mycenaean expansion and others followed the Argives in the 12th century as a result of the Dorian invasion of Greece.”

According to tradition? Is that another word for mythology? Is that what history is all about… assumptions?

Here’s another from the Ancient Scripts site…

“According to tradition, Greek settlers colonized Cyprus around the 12th century BCE, and they likely adopted the Cypro-Minoan script for their own use…”

According to tradition again? Right, so how much from what we supposedly “know” is based on these “traditions”?

…an awful lot I’m afraid! Nothing but UNSUBSTANTIATED SPECULATION!


Did you know that when EteoCypriot is found inscribed on these ancient places like Amathus, they just ignore it and move on? How do you explain that?

When you start paying attention to the WHOLE PICTURE you realize that everything is twisted and turned and/or ignored and removed to support the “Hellenic” thesis because our foolish compatriots have climbed on the “Hellenic” bandwagon of lies and propaganda, something that became standard policy due to the shared Ottoman problem of the time.

We have had enough of your fanatical rubbish, Chiri this Chiri that, just stop it nobody apart from pea brains like you are interested. It does nothing to solve the Cyprus problem. Instead you are creating your own chat show for what purpose we do not know ?

You took the words right out of my mouth. Milti and GR can think they are the direct decedents of an 10000 year old Cypriot race that were never assimilated and isolated themselves from the rest of us all they want.

I think the Cyprus problem page should start discussing the Cyprus problem instead of this revisionist drivel.

[Simon]

Well GR seems to think that if we declare the "Greek myth" to the world, the Turks will pack up and go home.

Fucking prat.

These ancient Cypriots you keep going on about would have been very few in number, and were obviously assimilated and adopted the superior Greek culture, or simply died out if they did isolate themselves. Like I keep repeating, Crete had a far greater civilisation than what Cyprus did before the Greeks arrived, but they are still Greek today. The same can be said for many nations who later adopted superior cultures. It doesn't make a scrap of difference.

[miltiades]

*1400 BC Mycenaeans reach the island as settlers. First use of The Cypriot syllabic scriptin (LCIB).
* 1300-1200 Several waves of Achaean Greeks come to settle on the island bringing with them the Greek language, their religion, their customs. BC Late Cypriot (LC) IIC, local prosperity, re-building of cities.
* 1200-1100 BC: end of the late Bronze Age (LCIIIA). Local production Mycenaean pottery
* 1100-1050: latest bronze Age (LCIIIB,), introduction of a new type of grave, Mycenean influences in pottery decoration.

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedi ... -of-Cyprus

So world encyclopedias like Britannica and the one above all say the same thing, yet we still have idiots like Milti and GR espousing drivel. Nicely done, Paph.

So Einstein you are convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that when the Greeks arrived on the island of Cyprus they found it uninhabited , give or take a few donkeys !!!
Listen plonker there is more validity and substance to my beliefs than there could ever be in yours. Answer one question if you have the brain to do so . WHAT HAPPENED TO THE CYPRIOTS WHO LIVED ON THE ISLAND OF CYPRUS FOR 8600 BEFORE THE GREEKS SET FOOT ON THE ISLAND.
You have a brain use it mate don't just cover your response in colourful shit use your common sense. People lived on this island 8600 years before the Greeks , who where they and what happened to them .
ps. Your stupidity shines through with every shitty post mate .