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The Extinct Choirokitian Culture.

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Postby Paphitis » Tue Apr 07, 2009 4:30 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:About 3oo Choirokitians lived in Cyprus from 7,000BC who either:

1) became extinct, or
2) blended in with the massive Mycenaean migration waves into Cyprus from 1600BC and onwards.

What is known is that Cyprus was mostly uninhabited when the Greeks started to arrive. 8)

Rubbish! There is not a shred of evidence that ANY Mycenaeans ever came to Cyprus!

Post a link that PROVIDES IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE that Mycenaeans came and settled in Cyprus.

And btw, the ”Hellenic” fantasy is that a bunch of Mycenaean refugees came and settled at around 1200BC, not a “massive migration” at 1600BC like you’ve invented!

I can do much better than give you a link.

Like waste my time with miscellaneous irrelevant junk posts?

Have you ever been to Salamina, Enkomi or Kourion?

No, I've been waiting for you to take me there...

Kourion was said to have been founded by the Argives.[1][2] Stesenor,...


About turn! Forward march!


[i] from which sacrilegious offenders who had dared to touch the altar of Apollo were thrown into the sea. (Strab. l. c.).The city has passed through different phases from a Hellenistic, Roman, and Christian periods. For this reason the city has a very large Agora (market place) and you can find an early Christian Basilica as well within the city walls.

GR! got abducted by aliens:
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Apr 07, 2009 4:40 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:About 3oo Choirokitians lived in Cyprus from 7,000BC who either:

1) became extinct, or
2) blended in with the massive Mycenaean migration waves into Cyprus from 1600BC and onwards.

What is known is that Cyprus was mostly uninhabited when the Greeks started to arrive. 8)

Rubbish! There is not a shred of evidence that ANY Mycenaeans ever came to Cyprus!

Post a link that PROVIDES IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE that Mycenaeans came and settled in Cyprus.

And btw, the ”Hellenic” fantasy is that a bunch of Mycenaean refugees came and settled at around 1200BC, not a “massive migration” at 1600BC like you’ve invented!

I can do much better than give you a link.

Like waste my time with miscellaneous irrelevant junk posts?

Have you ever been to Salamina, Enkomi or Kourion?

No, I've been waiting for you to take me there...

Kourion was said to have been founded by the Argives.[1][2] Stesenor,...


About turn! Forward march!


[i] from which sacrilegious offenders who had dared to touch the altar of Apollo were thrown into the sea. (Strab. l. c.).The city has passed through different phases from a Hellenistic, Roman, and Christian periods. For this reason the city has a very large Agora (market place) and you can find an early Christian Basilica as well within the city walls.

GR! got abducted by aliens:
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Postby Paphitis » Tue Apr 07, 2009 4:51 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:About 3oo Choirokitians lived in Cyprus from 7,000BC who either:

1) became extinct, or
2) blended in with the massive Mycenaean migration waves into Cyprus from 1600BC and onwards.

What is known is that Cyprus was mostly uninhabited when the Greeks started to arrive. 8)

Rubbish! There is not a shred of evidence that ANY Mycenaeans ever came to Cyprus!

Post a link that PROVIDES IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE that Mycenaeans came and settled in Cyprus.

And btw, the ”Hellenic” fantasy is that a bunch of Mycenaean refugees came and settled at around 1200BC, not a “massive migration” at 1600BC like you’ve invented!

I can do much better than give you a link.

Like waste my time with miscellaneous irrelevant junk posts?

Have you ever been to Salamina, Enkomi or Kourion?

No, I've been waiting for you to take me there...

Kourion was said to have been founded by the Argives.[1][2] Stesenor,...


About turn! Forward march!


[i] from which sacrilegious offenders who had dared to touch the altar of Apollo were thrown into the sea. (Strab. l. c.).The city has passed through different phases from a Hellenistic, Roman, and Christian periods. For this reason the city has a very large Agora (market place) and you can find an early Christian Basilica as well within the city walls.

GR! got abducted by aliens:
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This is one forum member whom I can guarantee to have Hellenic genes for his stupidity is of mythological proportions… Image


Stone pebbles of the Magdalenean Era (14,000 B.C. approx.)
and the French Glozel plate. Many letters of the Hellenic alphabet
can be clearly discerned such as Θ ,Ξ , Μ , Φ , Ε , Π , Τ , Λ etc.

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Sources: " MYSTERIES FROM FORGOTTEN WORLDS" by Charles Berlitz, Greek 'Orora' publications, and "OMFALOS"
by Athanasios Aggelopoulos, Greek 'Smyrniotakis' publications

Hellenic alphabet was in use at 6000 B.C.

OR

An article by Pan.Kouvalakis published in "Davlos" magazine

The potsherd of 5500-6000 BC, found at the islet Yura of Northern Sporades bearing Greek alphabet letters. The facsimile to the classic Greek letters Alpha (A), Ypsilon (Y) and Delta (Δ) can be recognized. This finding proves that the classic Greek alphabet is older than the Greek linear alphabets. It also demolishes crushingly and definitely the false theory that Greeks took the alphabet from the Phoenicians, who emerged in history around 1150 BC, i.e. 4500-5000 years after the creation of the Yura written potsherd.

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After the discovery of a wooden plate at Dispilion Kastoria, which was dated at 5300 BC, a new impressive discovery came to light, concerning the "prehistorical" alphabet in the Greek region. In the "Cyclop cave" at the desert islet Yura of Northern Sporades (20 miles out of Alonissos) ceramic fragments of written pots (potsherds) were excavated, upon the surface of which have been carved symbols facsimile with the letters of the classic Greek alphabet. The potsherds are dated between 6000 and 5500 BC.

OR
Greek letters like "M" and "Y" were found in an ancient Hellenic city in the bottom of the ocean in India. This is dated from 7500 BC.


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All Alphabets are Hellenic in origin even the so called LATIN alphabet is just another Hellenic alphabet created by the Greeks from Magna Grecia in Italy.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Apr 07, 2009 5:01 pm

Paphitis wrote:Hellenic alphabet was in use at 6000 B.C.

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And to think my request was...

"Post a link that PROVIDES IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE that Mycenaeans came and settled in Cyprus."

...imagine what he would've posted had I asked him to prove that "Hellenism" has spread to other galaxies! :lol:

Paphitis, you’re as daft as a porcupine and wasting my time.
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Postby Paphitis » Tue Apr 07, 2009 5:13 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Hellenic alphabet was in use at 6000 B.C.

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And to think my request was...

"Post a link that PROVIDES IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE that Mycenaeans came and settled in Cyprus."

...imagine what he would've posted had I asked him to prove that "Hellenism" has spread to other galaxies! :lol:

Paphitis, you’re as daft as a porcupine and wasting my time.


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Late Bronze Age (1650-1050 BC)

During the Late Bronze Age, Cyprus came into its own as a major centre of copper production, supplying the entire Eastern Mediterranean. Settlements with urban organization grew up close to the harbours from which copper ingots and bronze artifacts were shipped to the Aegean, the Middle East, and Egypt, to be bartered or exchanged for various products and luxury goods. In the larger cities, buildings for administrative functions were erected, while a system of writing was adopted from Crete (Cypro-Minoan script), which enabled the Cypriots to cope with the increased bureaucratic need for inventories and archives. The arts flourished and the wealth that flowed into the island led to social inequalities. In the late 13th c. BC, the upheavals sweeping the Eastern Mediterranean, which are usually attributed to the so-called “Sea Peoples”, also affected Cyprus. Several cities were destroyed and waves of refugees arrived from the Aegean. Even so, the island quickly recovered from the dramatic disturbances and regained its role as an important mercantile centre.

http://www.cycladic.gr/frontoffice/port ... E&cnode=64

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Postby Get Real! » Tue Apr 07, 2009 5:40 pm

I DID NOT ask you to…

“Post a link that SAYS that Mycenaeans came and settled in Cyprus.”

…but to…

“Post a link that PROVIDES IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE that Mycenaeans came and settled in Cyprus”

Do you understand the difference Paphitoui?
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Postby Paphitis » Tue Apr 07, 2009 5:58 pm

Get Real! wrote:I DID NOT ask you to…

“Post a link that SAYS that Mycenaeans came and settled in Cyprus.”

…but to…

“Post a link that PROVIDES IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE that Mycenaeans came and settled in Cyprus”

Do you understand the difference Paphitoui?


I will ask you to do the same.

Can you provide IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE that Mycenaeans did not settle in Cyprus?

I also ask you to provide IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE that Cypriots are not Hellenes.

The irrefutable evidence that Cypriots are Hellenes is all around you. Cypriots are Hellenes because they they speak the same language as Greeks, have a similar culture to Greeks, have believed in the same God/s as Greeks, wave their hands around when they argue over politics just like the Greeks, park on footpaths like Greeks, and eat fasoulia and fart like Greeks...:lol:

A classics and linguistics scholar has found a bridge between the pre-alphabetic scripts of the ancient Greeks of Cyprus and the Greek alphabet -- and argues that the Mediterranean island is therefore most likely the place where the Greek alphabet was invented.


http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 151297.php

What the above shows is that the Cypriots were a vital link for the development of Hellenism as a whole.
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Apr 07, 2009 5:58 pm

Isnt it odd that millions of colonists and settlers invaded North America from all over Europe and possibly East Asia,yet they are 'Americans'

Just a thought.
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Postby Paphitis » Tue Apr 07, 2009 6:01 pm

denizaksulu wrote:Isnt it odd that millions of colonists and settlers invaded North America from all over Europe and possibly East Asia,yet they are 'Americans'

Just a thought.


And yet you call yourself Turkish Cypriot!

Why should Cypriots give up their birthright to an ancient civilisation that they played a vital role in developing? Cypriots are no different to the Cretans, Spartans, Athenians, and Mycenaeans.

It is widely blieved that Cypriots may have even developed the Ancient Greek scripts and this is the very basis of Hellenism.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Apr 07, 2009 6:18 pm

Paphitis wrote:I will ask you to do the same.

Can you provide IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE that Mycenaeans did not settle in Cyprus?

Unfortunately, it doesn't work like that! :lol: You are the ones making the mythological claims so now PROVE IT or SHUT IT!

I also ask you to provide IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE that Cypriots are not Hellenes.

Don't you think that the issue above is connected with this? :lol:

Now Paphitoui, because you have difficulty understanding…

How do you go about proving that at around 1200BC, a bunch of people from Greece came and settled in Cyprus?

Did they find a plaque with a list of their names?

Did they find an inscription on a stone that read… “In memory of the hundreds of Greeks that came to stay and blessed us with their presence in 1200BC!” ?

Or did they find Greek pots and pans and ASSUMED that they had settled here? Ha? A bit like the Cypriot bracelets and copper exported to them maybe eh? (Only for some funny reason our products didn't go there with an attached "obligatory inheritance" label!) :lol:

Why didn't they clearly label their products with something like…

Warning: Anyone using this pot is condemned to also inherit the “Hellenic” identity! :lol:

Or should we just hush and accept the “Hellenic” version of events because it makes them look good? And I as a Cypriot should strive for some bizarre reason to help them look good… ???

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