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Postby halil » Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:29 pm

Siuan ,

to understand Cyprus problem we must go back to 1960 .

Republic of Cyprus was established by equal partnership of both sides .

it did work only 3 years .between years 1963-1974 .we ,the Turkish Cypriots were living in enclaves .both sides were separated since 1963 events . even at those times we were formed our own administration .

if i am not wrong in 1968 talks were started between both sides . Talks were getting better than better everyday .Because of difficult lives in enclaves most of the Turkish Cypriots were going to UK or Australia .Our population was decreasing everyday .Life was very thaft for us .

in july 1974 as u know there was a coup in Cyprus . we all know what Sampson said if Turkey did not come to Cyprus ... next target was TC's .

For us it was freedom 1974 but it should not take this much time to find solution in Cyprus . In one way or another way we are still strugling for our equal rights in Cyprus .
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Postby Raymanoff » Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:31 pm

yes, same as with Italy, Malta, France, UK and so on... you are welcome to do so too. Turkey apparently is acting like a stalled donkey, you have all the cards to play... just start with couple of chapters everyone keeps reminding you of.
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:32 pm

Raymanoff wrote:yes, same as with Italy, Malta, France, UK and so on... you are welcome to do so too. Turkey apparently is acting like a stalled donkey, you have all the cards to play... just start with couple of chapters everyone keeps reminding you of.


Thank you for being honest enough to admit you have achieved enosis with Greece.
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Postby halil » Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:38 pm

halil wrote:Siuan ,

to understand Cyprus problem we must go back to 1960 .

Republic of Cyprus was established by equal partnership of both sides .

it did work only 3 years .between years 1963-1974 .we ,the Turkish Cypriots were living in enclaves .both sides were separated since 1963 events . even at those times we were formed our own administration .

if i am not wrong in 1968 talks were started between both sides . Talks were getting better than better everyday .Because of difficult lives in enclaves most of the Turkish Cypriots were going to UK or Australia .Our population was decreasing everyday .Life was very thaft for us .

in july 1974 as u know there was a coup in Cyprus . we all know what Sampson said if Turkey did not come to Cyprus ... next target was TC's .

For us it was freedom 1974 but it should not take this much time to find solution in Cyprus . In one way or another way we are still strugling for our equal rights in Cyprus .


try to read this none cypriot web page .

http://countrystudies.us/cyprus/
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Postby insan » Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:39 pm

The crux of the problem was/is whether GC rules or 2 main communities of Cyprus rule in a government structure based on political equality of 2 main communities of Cyprus. Had GCs accepted political equality of 2 communities on legislative and judicial bodies; problem would have been solved decades ago. Still the crux of the problem is same. If there's no political equality on those particular bodies; TCs will become an ineffective minority either in their zones or whole Cyprus.
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Postby halil » Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:45 pm

what the Russian man understand from Turkish Cypriots problems ... he speaks what he hears in Limassol what he has been told .

he was not here before 1974 .... how could he understand .That we could not travel freely , that there was no electricity in our villages , we could not communicate with rest of the world ... no phone ,no post officies ,there was no roads in our villages .... most of the villages were without tap water .... he can not understand us ....he can not understand why we are saying equal power sharing ......
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Postby paliometoxo » Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:52 pm

tell that to the 20 thousand gcs the turks killed for no reason when arriving to cyprus..
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Postby YFred » Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:56 pm

Raymanoff wrote:yes, same as with Italy, Malta, France, UK and so on... you are welcome to do so too. Turkey apparently is acting like a stalled donkey, you have all the cards to play... just start with couple of chapters everyone keeps reminding you of.

I congratulate you on your understanding of the Cyprus problem. You are applying the good old Russian logic. What you failed to understand is that if Turkey did not intervene, then the fascist GCs would have done to the TCs what your beloved Russia did to the Chechen Turks, or have you forgotten about that one?

What no GC will admit is what Sampsons intentions were once he finished with his GC opposition? I suspect not different than what happened to the Chechens. What the Chechen would give for a bit of protection from Russia.

Why 35 years I hear you ask, simple really, because the GC will not sign a peace deal. I don’t know if you realise this but although a ceasefire has been signed, no peace deal. Mehmetcik cannot leave Cyprus until the peace agreement is signed, that simple. Judging by the arming of the GC National Guard, bloody right too.
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Postby Raymanoff » Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:33 pm

YFred, stop stereotyping... i have lived the greater part of my life in CYprus...so drop all the Russian crap talk right now. I have no knowledge of Chechen problem, nor Abhazian problem... so u wasting your time
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Postby YFred » Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:38 pm

Raymanoff wrote:YFred, stop stereotyping... i have lived the greater part of my life in CYprus...so drop all the Russian crap talk right now. I have no knowledge of Chechen problem, nor Abhazian problem... so u wasting your time

Yep, political ignorance is bliss.
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