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Re: The Greek embezzlement of Cypriot heritage...

Postby EPSILON » Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:05 pm

Get Real! wrote:The Greek embezzlement of Cypriot heritage...


Civilization:

The Cypriots had started building organized settlements like the one at Choirokoitia, from way back in 7000 BC! This the oldest sign of human civilization in the entire region!

“Choirokoitia (also known as Khirokitia) is one of the most important prehistorical sites in the eastern Mediterranean area. The site is only partly recovered, and archaelogical work is still going on.”

http://www.worldheritagesite.org/sites/ ... oitia.html

It took another whopping 5,000 years before anything of interest appeared on modern Greece’s territory! (Minoan and Early Helladic civilizations at around 2,000 BC)


Language:

The birthplace of the Greek Alphabet has been identified as Cyprus…

“Using phonetic evidence, Woodard argues that the scribes who adapted the Greek alphabet from the Phoenician consonantal script were accustomed to writing Greek in the syllabic script of Cyprus.

"This has enormous implications for the history of the alphabet," Woodard says. "I think for the first time we can confidently pinpoint where the Greeks developed the alphabet, which has been a big unknown."


http://www.usc.edu/uscnews/stories/3208.html

The earliest Cypriot inscriptions found that used the Cypriot script date back to around 1500BC, a time when the corresponding ancient people living on modern mainland Greece lived in the dark!


Religion:

Is the Eastern Orthodox Christian denomination Greek? I don’t think so…

“Historically, the contemporary Orthodox church stands in direct continuity with the earliest Christian communities founded in regions of the Eastern Mediterranean by the apostles of Jesus. The subsequent destinies of Christianity in those areas were shaped by the transfer of the imperial capital from Rome to Constantinople by Constantine I. As a consequence, during the first 8 centuries of Christian history most major intellectual, cultural, and social developments in the Christian church also took place in that region; for example, all ecumenical councils of that period met either in Constantinople or in its vicinity. Missionaries, coming from Constantinople, converted the Slavs and other peoples of Eastern Europe to Christianity and translated Scripture and liturgical texts into the vernacular languages used in the various regions. Thus, the liturgy, traditions, and practices of the church of Constantinople were adopted by all and still provide the basic patterns and ethos of contemporary Orthodoxy.”

http://mb-soft.com/believe/txc/orthodox.htm

So which countries lie in the Eastern Mediterranean? Cyprus and the Middle Eastern countries of course! And who was this Constantine I who took Christianity to Constantinople from its Eastern Mediterranean birthplace?

Constantine I, was a Roman emperor in the capital of the Roman Empire of the time called “Constantinople”! There was nothing Greek about him or his capital!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_I



What does the Bible have to say about Cyprus?

The Bible makes it clear that among other things the Cypriots had spread the Gospel to Greeks…

Acts 11:20: “Some of them, however, men from Cyprus and Cyrene, went to Antioch and began to speak to Greeks also, telling them the good news about the Lord Jesus.”

Acts 21:16: “Some of the disciples from Caesarea accompanied us and brought us to the home of Mnason, where we were to stay. He was a man from Cyprus and one of the early disciples.”

Isaiah 23:1: “Wail, O ships of Tarshish! For Tyre is destroyed and left without house or harbor. From the land of Cyprus word has come to them.”

Ezekiel 27:6: “Of oaks from Bashan they made your oars; of cypress wood from the coasts of Cyprus they made your deck, inlaid with ivory.”

Acts 4:36: “Joseph, a Levite from Cyprus, whom the apostles called Barnabas (which means Son of Encouragement),”


So what is “Culture” that Cypriotism is based on?

“The totality of socially transmitted behavior patterns, arts, beliefs, institutions, and all other products of human work and thought.”

http://education.yahoo.com/reference/di ... ry/culture


And what is “Mythology” that Greek “Hellenism” is based on?

“A body or collection of myths belonging to a people and addressing their origin, history, deities, ancestors, and heroes.”

http://education.yahoo.com/reference/di ... /mythology



Conclusion: The modern Greeks have pinched the rich ancient culture of Cypriots, repackaged it as their own and sold it right back to Cyprus as part of their mythological “Hellenism” campaign starting from the early 1800s, at a time when Ottoman suppression of Cyprus kept the Cypriots in the dark about their glorious heritage!


Regards, GR.


Now all is clear. By 7000bc also Turkey and Greece were of similar populations. Big conclusion of GR is that Greeks, G/cs/Turks are of same origin/brothers . CB just solved. NOBEL of peace is going to GR.
A second big problem which also solved.The theory stating that Choirokitians were boubounotziefaloi has been also proved.!!!!
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:17 pm

AEKTZIS wrote:Your belief that somehow cyprus created the world amuses me!!!! come on man, ase tis malakies, how did you buy into all this bullshit that cyprus ECLIPSES ELLADA???

BECAUSE CYPRUS DOES NOT ECLIPSE ELLADA MY FRIEND.....YOU HAVE BEEN BRAINWASHED!!! :lol:

Cyprus had a well established and very successful Cypriot civilization for THOUSANDS of years before anything “Greek” or “Turkish” ever existed, so to assume or suggest that Cyprus is a product of either of these two later entities is as daft as suggesting that one’s Great-Grandfather is one’s offspring! :lol:
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Postby AEKTZIS » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:32 pm

It is not daft at all to suggest such a thing. We, the cypriots of today, are ourselves A PRODUCT of these two later entities!!

We are not offspring of the indigenous ancient cypriots! so their civilization is alien to me.
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:57 pm

AEKTZIS wrote:It is not daft at all to suggest such a thing. We, the cypriots of today, are ourselves A PRODUCT of these two later entities!!

We are not offspring of the indigenous ancient cypriots! so their civilization is alien to me.

Look, you’re just too silly to be taken seriously… you clearly don’t understand how humanity began and had gradually shaped.

For your info, Cyprus is the wellspring from which gnosis flowed into Europe and not the other way round!

There is nothing Greek or Turkish about Cyprus… although you may find plenty of Cypriot influence in both Greece and Turkey!

Perhaps your family is just Greek and you’ve been assuming all these years that everyone else in Cyprus is just like you! :lol:
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Postby AEKTZIS » Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:29 pm

obviously we have two conflicting schools of thought and there is no point arguing further when neither of us will change our minds.
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Postby Klik » Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:30 pm

Get Real! wrote:
AEKTZIS wrote:It is not daft at all to suggest such a thing. We, the cypriots of today, are ourselves A PRODUCT of these two later entities!!

We are not offspring of the indigenous ancient cypriots! so their civilization is alien to me.

Look, you’re just too silly to be taken seriously… you clearly don’t understand how humanity began and had gradually shaped.

For your info, Cyprus is the wellspring from which gnosis flowed into Europe and not the other way round!

There is nothing Greek or Turkish about Cyprus… although you may find plenty of Cypriot influence in both Greece and Turkey!

Perhaps your family is just Greek and you’ve been assuming all these years that everyone else in Cyprus is just like you! :lol:



so you're saying that language and common ancestry with Greece for the past 3000 years is not some sort of influence? I won't laugh right away, I'll just ask how Cyprus (who were possibly black I repeat) influence Greece or Turkey
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:29 pm

Klik wrote:so you're saying that language and common ancestry with Greece for the past 3000 years is not some sort of influence?

What 3,000 years of “common ancestry with Greece” and green horses? :lol:

That’s typical Greek Junta propaganda-education prevalent in the 60s and 70s! :roll:

Ever heard of the Greek Dark Ages (1200–800 BC)?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_Dark_Ages

Prior to that, a bunch of Slavic tribes (the Dorians - ancient ancestors of Macedonians) wiped out anything “Greek” that had previously formed and it wasn’t until Cypriots began to travel to modern day Greece and special places like Antioch, and what was left of “Greeks” started learning to read & write, and discovering Christianity!

Notice how they suddenly had a language and could read and write just prior to Jesus’ times?

http://www.usc.edu/uscnews/stories/3208.html

If it wasn’t for Cyprus and Cypriots like Barnabas breathing life back into ravaged Greece, by teaching Greek refugees (Mycenaean remnants) in Antioch (modern day Turkey), they’d still be in the dark ages!

I won't laugh right away, I'll just ask how Cyprus (who were possibly black I repeat) influence Greece or Turkey

Just laugh at yourself for having the intellect of a Greek.
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Postby Lit » Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:54 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Klik wrote:so you're saying that language and common ancestry with Greece for the past 3000 years is not some sort of influence?

What 3,000 years of “common ancestry with Greece” and green horses? :lol:

That’s typical Greek Junta propaganda-education prevalent in the 60s and 70s! :roll:

Ever heard of the Greek Dark Ages (1200–800 BC)?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_Dark_Ages

Prior to that, a bunch of Slavic tribes (the Dorians - ancient ancestors of Macedonians) wiped out anything “Greek” that had previously formed and it wasn’t until Cypriots began to travel to modern day Greece and special places like Antioch, and what was left of “Greeks” started learning to read & write, and discovering Christianity!

Notice how they suddenly had a language and could read and write just prior to Jesus’ times?

http://www.usc.edu/uscnews/stories/3208.html

If it wasn’t for Cyprus and Cypriots like Barnabas breathing life back into ravaged Greece, by teaching Greek refugees (Mycenaean remnants) in Antioch (modern day Turkey), they’d still be in the dark ages!

I won't laugh right away, I'll just ask how Cyprus (who were possibly black I repeat) influence Greece or Turkey

Just laugh at yourself for having the intellect of a Greek.


Dorians were a Greek tribe. competing Greek city-states of Athens and Sparta always went to war against each other but that doesnt mean they werent Greek city states. Go back to your youtube to learn history you silly twit.
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Postby Lit » Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:58 pm

Mount Olympos, the home of the GREEK gods were located where? IN MACEDONIA....

I am going to learn you history.
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:03 pm

Lit wrote:Mount Olympos, the home of the GREEK gods were located where? IN MACEDONIA....

I am going to learn you history.

Let's start with English first... :wink:
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