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[kurupetos]

Should I remind everyone that Romans were actually descending from Greek refugees...? Everything is known, only thing is people can't handle the truth...

Italy, Greece, Cyprus and a few other places share the same DNA because they are the same race basically.

Una faccia una razza

Cypriots are the only true decedents of the ancient Greeks. Modern mainland Greeks are a mixture of Albanian, Slavic and Bulgarian races.

Cypriots are about 3,000 years more ancient than anything calling itself “Greek” ever emerged, so any notion that “Cypriots come from Greeks” is as meaningful as a claim that your great-granddad is your offspring!

My great-grandfather's language was Greek. His great-grandfather's language was Greek, etc. All the way to Homer.

Homer, is an IMAGINARY character just like your intellect.

Any credible sources that prove that?

[Get Real!]

Should I remind everyone that Romans were actually descending from Greek refugees...? Everything is known, only thing is people can't handle the truth...

Italy, Greece, Cyprus and a few other places share the same DNA because they are the same race basically.

Una faccia una razza

Cypriots are the only true decedents of the ancient Greeks. Modern mainland Greeks are a mixture of Albanian, Slavic and Bulgarian races.

Cypriots are about 3,000 years more ancient than anything calling itself “Greek” ever emerged, so any notion that “Cypriots come from Greeks” is as meaningful as a claim that your great-granddad is your offspring!

My great-grandfather's language was Greek. His great-grandfather's language was Greek, etc. All the way to Homer.

Homer, is an IMAGINARY character just like your intellect.

Any credible sources that prove that?

The Homeric Question

Following the seminal work of Milman Parry, most Classicists agree that, whether or not there was ever such a composer as Homer, the poems attributed to him are to some degree dependent on oral tradition, a generations-old technique that was the collective inheritance of many singer-poets (or ἀῳδοί (aoidoi)). An analysis of the structure and vocabulary of the Iliad and Odyssey shows that the poems contain many regular and repeated phrases; indeed, even entire verses are repeated.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeric_question


Little is known of who Homer actually was, and by and large, many sources dispute whether biographical information is actually important toward a scholarly understanding of his literary works. In part, this is due to several factors within his work which are for the most part historical discrepancies relating to the time Homer's works were supposed to have been written and the archeological evidence found from excavated sites in the present day. In addition, there continues to be debate between scholars as to whether or not Homer was the true and only writer of his works.

http://www.mnsu.edu/emuseum/prehistory/ ... homer.html

[kurupetos]

Homer is the foundation of ancient Greek literature. Was Aristotle referring to an imaginary person?

http://www.leeds.ac.uk/classics/resourc ... et-hom.htm

[CBBB]

Homer is the foundation of ancient Greek literature. Was Aristotle referring to an imaginary person?

http://www.leeds.ac.uk/classics/resourc ... et-hom.htm

John Stuart Mill, of his own free will,
On half a pint of shandy was particularly ill.
Plato, they say, could stick it away;
Half a crate of whiskey every day.
Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle,
Hobbes was fond of his dram,
And Rene Descartes was a drunken fart: "I drink, therefore I am"
Yes, Socrates, himself, is particularly missed;
A lovely little thinker but a bugger when he's pissed!

[ZoC]

Yes but, Did Aristotle really exist? Or was he invented by demis roussos.

[kurupetos]

Yes but, Did Aristotle really exist? Or was he invented by demis roussos.

Equivalently, did Zeno of Citium really exist? Or was he invented by London Cypriots?

[kurupetos]

Homer is the foundation of ancient Greek literature. Was Aristotle referring to an imaginary person?

http://www.leeds.ac.uk/classics/resourc ... et-hom.htm

John Stuart Mill, of his own free will,
On half a pint of shandy was particularly ill.
Plato, they say, could stick it away;
Half a crate of whiskey every day.
Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle,
Hobbes was fond of his dram,
And Rene Descartes was a drunken fart: "I drink, therefore I am"
Yes, Socrates, himself, is particularly missed;
A lovely little thinker but a bugger when he's pissed!

The Greeks invented beer you ungrateful bugger.

Knowledge of brewing was passed on to the Greeks. Plato wrote that "He was a wise man who invented beer."

http://www.beer100.com/history/beerhistory.htm

[ZoC]

Yes but, Did Aristotle really exist? Or was he invented by demis roussos.

Equivalently, did Zeno of Citium really exist? Or was he invented by London Cypriots?

I'd gladly take the credit.

[supporttheunderdog]

You may be interested in this

http://www.white-history.com/refuting_rm/7.html -

You can stick your Nordist link up your back side.

Well if you dont like the nordic try this for size:

http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ ... eece_1.htm

This again states that original inhabitants of what later became Greece and the Island of Cyprus were not Hellenic - if one defines Hellenic as those speaking what became the Greek language.

Whether their skin was black, whilte, Olive or whatever is not important - they were not Hellenic or Greek.

Greeks is in fact a latin phrase applied by the Romans to Hellenic Colonists in Southern Italy in an area known to the Romans as Magna Graecia - the name only appears to have been applied later to what is know Greece.

[DT.]

You may be interested in this

http://www.white-history.com/refuting_rm/7.html -

You can stick your Nordist link up your back side.

Well if you dont like the nordic try this for size:

http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ ... eece_1.htm

This again states that original inhabitants of what later became Greece and the Island of Cyprus were not Hellenic - if one defines Hellenic as those speaking what became the Greek language.

Whether their skin was black, whilte, Olive or whatever is not important - they were not Hellenic or Greek.

Greeks is in fact a latin phrase applied by the Romans to Hellenic Colonists in Southern Italy in an area known to the Romans as Magna Graecia - the name only appears to have been applied later to what is know Greece.

It didn't start out derogatory but got that rep during the times of the Romans, it seems.:

Quote Wikipedia:

The modern English adaptation of Greek is derived from the Latin Graecus, which in turn originates from Greek Γραικός (Graikos), the name of a Boeotian tribe that migrated to Italy in the 8th century BC, and it is by that name the Hellenes were known in the West. Homer, while reciting the Boeotian forces in the Iliad's Catalogue of Ships, provides the first known reference to a Boeotian city named Graea,[36] and Pausanias mentions that Graea was the name of the ancient city of Tanagra.[37] Cumae, a city lying to the west of Neapolis (now Naples) and south of Rome, was founded by Cymaeans and Chalkideans as well as Graeans who by coming into contact with Romans may very well be responsible for naming all Hellenic speaking tribes Graeci. The modern Italian city of Grai was also founded in antiquity by Graeans.

Aristotle, our oldest source mentioning the word, states that a natural cataclysm swept across central Epirus, a land where its inhabitants used to be called γραικοί (Graecoi) and were later named Hellenes (Έλληνες).[38] In mythology, Graecus is a cousin of Latinus, and the word seems to be related with γηραιός (geraius, anile), which was the title given to the priests of Dodona. They were also named Σελλοί (Selloi)—which shows the relation between the two basic names of the Greeks. The dominant theory on the colonization of Italy has it that part of the people living in Epirus crossed Dodona and migrated to Phthia, becoming infamous as Hellenes the tribe Achilles led to Troy. The remaining part merged with other tribes that arrived later, without losing its name. From there they traveled westwards to Italy, before the first wave of colonists in the 8th century BC arrived at Sicily and southern Italy.

As the Romans strove to dominate all spheres of public life - in their own right, the term 'Greek' took on a derogatory connotation. Horace used it admiringly, Graecia capta ferum victorem cepit et artes intulit agresti Latio (The defeated Greece conquered the victor and civilised the peasant Latins). But Virgil coined the expression, Timeo Danaos et dona ferentes, which became known as 'fear the Greeks who bring presents'. Cicero gave the coup de grace by coining the truly derogatory term, Graeculi.