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The Greek embezzlement of Cypriot heritage...

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby ZoC » Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:40 am

AEKTZIS wrote:Modern Greeks are a shadow of our former glories.....we now have a state dogged with corruption, lies, weak leaders, financial insecurity, lack of trust, political scandals.....it is a real mess. Add to that a dark period of our past with right-wing junta, suppression of the left-wing....and you get a republic with not much to shout for in the 20th and 21st centuries, bar 1940 and "oxi"...


ur not wrong. thank christ i'm a modern cypriot.
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Postby AEKTZIS » Fri Jan 14, 2011 10:56 am

....and as cypriots we are much better? Decades of hatred and in-fighting between two communities of people on the island leading to a war, thousands of casualties, war crimes, refugees and an international crisis unsolved 37 years later?
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Postby ZoC » Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:51 pm

AEKTZIS wrote:....and as cypriots we are much better?


yep. but i'm cypriot, so u'll forgive me from blowing the trumpet...

AEKTZIS wrote: Decades of hatred and in-fighting between two communities of people on the island leading to a war, thousands of casualties, war crimes, refugees and an international crisis unsolved 37 years later?


that's not our fault. that's the fault of imperialist foreign powers... and greece isn't without blame.
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Postby AEKTZIS » Fri Jan 14, 2011 2:07 pm

Precisely! you are right, it is not our fault as Cypriots.....but the same goes for the Greeks....Greeks themselves are not responsible for their losses as a nation.....not directly, anyway....

also i dont like to say "Greece" is to blame for what happened to cyprus by the same example.....Junta was to blame? Yes, of course, in part.....

But for me, Junta does not = Greece.
Just like EOKA B does not = Cyprus
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Postby Oracle » Fri Jan 14, 2011 2:59 pm

Get Real! wrote:
AEKTZIS wrote:and SHOULD be proud of, whether it is Byzantium or Ancient Greece.

The Byzantine Empire was Roman you fool! :lol:


Here we go again! :roll:
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Postby DT. » Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:44 pm

Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
AEKTZIS wrote:and SHOULD be proud of, whether it is Byzantium or Ancient Greece.

The Byzantine Empire was Roman you fool! :lol:


Here we go again! :roll:


Guess thats why the Italian catholic church speaks Greek now and we speak swahili.

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/top ... k-language
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Postby Klik » Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:04 pm

Rome was either formed by Etruscans, who were Greek immigrants, or by the Trojans, who were Greeks whose city was burned to ashes... 9/10 speculations on Rome's foundation lead to Greece being heavily involved... Too bad those Celts burned the whole libraries to the ground and now we can't know for a fact the true story.

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Postby ZoC » Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:09 pm

AEKTZIS wrote:Precisely! you are right, it is not our fault as Cypriots.....but the same goes for the Greeks....Greeks themselves are not responsible for their losses as a nation.....not directly, anyway....


sure... but i wished they'd stop going on and on about how great they were... err... 3,000 years ago. i'm embarrassed for them.

AEKTZIS wrote:also i dont like to say "Greece" is to blame for what happened to cyprus by the same example.....Junta was to blame? Yes, of course, in part.....

But for me, Junta does not = Greece.
Just like EOKA B does not = Cyprus


sure, but then, by the same token, does that mean we can't blame "turkey" and "britain" or "america" either? just the evil bastards running them? i for one don't like pulling punches on any of the foreign bastards who helped divide the island...
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:11 pm

AEKTZIS wrote:Precisely! you are right, it is not our fault as Cypriots....

:shock: Come again? :?

There’s nothing Cypriot about you dude… if anything you just come across as a pitiful little clown with the IQ of a constipated Spartan with his jocks on his head! Image
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:16 pm

Klik wrote:Rome was either formed by Etruscans, who were Greek immigrants, or by the Trojans, who were Greeks whose city was burned to ashes... 9/10 speculations on Rome's foundation lead to Greece being heavily involved... Too bad those Celts burned the whole libraries to the ground and now we can't know for a fact the true story.

Get real... follow your own nickname please

Pea brain, this is the bit where you get to use your pea so fasten your seatbelt and hold on tight... :wink:

“The term "Byzantine Empire" is an invention of historians and was never used during the Empire's lifetime. The Empire's name in Greek was Basileia ton Rhōmaiōn (Greek: Βασιλεία των Ῥωμαίων)— "The Empire of the Romans"— a translation of the Latin name of the Roman Empire (Latin: Imperium Romanōrum); or just Rhōmania (Greek: Ῥωμανία).”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_Empire

"The very name Byzantine illustrates the misconceptions to which the empire's history has often been subject, for its inhabitants would hardly have considered the term appropriate to themselves or to their state. Theirs was, in their view, none other than the Roman Empire, founded shortly before the beginning of the Christian Era by God's grace to unify his people in preparation for the coming of his Son. Proud of that Christian and Roman heritage, convinced that their earthly empire so nearly resembled the heavenly pattern that it could never change, they called themselves Romaioi, or Romans."

http://www.reu.org/public/theological/S ... ebdoc4.htm

"Byzantine Empire, eastern part of the Roman Empire, which survived after the breakup of the Western Empire in the 5th century ad. Its capital was Constantinople (now İstanbul, Turkey). "

http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761 ... mpire.html


"Eastern Roman Empire Compared to the West - Why the Byzantines Succeeded in Preserving the Culture of Rome"

http://roman-history.suite101.com/artic ... o_the_west

"Byzantine Art - Grandeur in the Art History of Eastern Roman Empire"

http://ezinearticles.com/?Byzantine-Art ... id=2059354

Let me know when you're ready for round two...
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